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"Flutie just wins where ever he goes". 5-11 record. 8 TDs, 15 picks down the stretch. WINNING! So, the Bills managed to salvage 3 points on that drive from Reeds mistake. Can you remind me again how many points the Bills were able to salvage after Flutie's 3 drive ending mistakes? Ah, the Coulda, Shoulda, Woulda game. If only Flutie coughed up the ball 2 times instead of three. Especially that last one. That was not only a difference maker, that was a game killer.

Hope you did some stretching before you tried to make that reach.

1. WAY TOO EARLY to worry about recruiting rankings. 2. Besides, this is "unpossible". I read on here when Georgia took the #1 ranking this past year, that was a sign that Bama's slide down has begun. 3. Did I mention it was WAY TOO EARLY to worry about recruiting rankings?

2001 -San Diego. Started all 16 games. Team went 5-2 through the first 7 games, then promptly lost 9 straight to finish 5-11. That's some kind of winning there. During that 9 game losing stretch, DF threw 8 TDs and 15 picks, including 0 TD, 3 pick performance against the Raiders. When questioned about the 3 picks, DF blamed the field conditions for one (WR slipped trying to reach back for a poorly thrown ball), a "lazy" DT on a another (DT played contained and plugged the passing lane. DF hit the DT right in the chest), and actually took responsibility for the third. During the same 9 game losing stretch, DF did an interview where his poor play came up. He denied he was playing poorly, and could not believe people actually thought he was. Why? Because he was third in the public portion of the pro bowl voting .

Never said RJ was better, but this concept that Fultie was somehow "good" is laughable.

A meaningless stat by itself. But that was typical Flutie. For all the "good" things he did, he would do enough stupid s**t to negate it. He would scamper 15 yards on a 3rd down to keep a drive alive, but 3 plays later throw a pick into double coverage while there was wide open WR on the other side of the field.

Flutie was the very definition of mediocrity. 360 yards? Yes! 1 TD and 3 Turnovers?

2 of them by Flutie, plus a pick. But it was Moulds and Reed's fault.

As others have pointed out, Tua has played more than just 30 minutes of football, and he has been a play maker in every instance. For 2017, he threw a TD for every 7 pass attempts. In comparison, none of the top prospects in the upcoming NFL draft can match that. Mayfield, based on overall CFB career, was the closest at 10. Darnold, based on per season, was the closest at 8 in 2016. Fromm, a true Frosh last year, and a player that many people on this board think will be good, is at 12. Matt Wyatt, an analyst for Miss State, broke down all of Tua's pass plays for 2017. You can find those here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP_0UKjRtvOyBnqG0A4d6ig You watch those, and you can see why Bama fans are really excited about Tua. And it's not based on 1 half of football, or 1 good play in NCG. With that, I think the kid is going to be great, but I want to see at least 1 full season of him as the starter where defenses are game planning against him. Once that happens, we can come back talk about it.

It's one of those new fangled Alabama rules.

Not the first time he's been on the list. He was #11 in 2016. He's dropped a spot. i'm thinking of driving over to Tuscaloosa and throwing a brick through his window.

Manziel is playing in the NFL spring developmental league. A two week season being played in Austin. First week was today. https://www.thespringleague.com/ Spurrier is going to be a HC in another non-NFL spring league, starting in 2019. https://aaf.com/

Nah, Flutie was definitely more divisive. It's not even close. When RJ left, nobdoy cared. When Flutie left, there were "Bills fans" (as if they were) who openly rooted for Flutie and the Chargers to beat the Bills in 2001. Also, when Flutie played with the Chargers in 2001, it was interesting to watch the San Diego fan base go through the same exact BS Bills fans went through.

Jesus, how long have you been here? EVERY off season the main board is filled with redundant thread after redundant thread. In reality, there is just not much going on in the NFL right now. If you think Johnny Freefall will bring "electricity" to the NFL, boy, are you going to be disappointed. He was good to watch at aTm because his receivers did most of the work.

Yes, media attention and hype lead to ticket sales. Heck, the Bills signed Terrell Owens just for that purpose. Why? Because the team was bad, and the organization needed something to generate fan interest in the team. Only the foolish (and there were a lot) expected Owens to be the spark that would propel the Bills onto better things. Once again, the foolish paid attention to the hype, the splash, and the image, and were disappointed in the end. But there is a difference in the kind of media attention. Bama gets all kinds of media attention. How good the coach is, how good the program is, etc ... That's the good kind. Manziel got a ****load of media attention while on the Browns. Almost none of it good, and I doubt the Browns were slapping themselves on the back for it. Owens was signed to be a starter. Manziel is a scrub, and is hoping somebody will sign him along with his baggage. You want hype and media attention? Hope the Bills draft one of the top QBs. It will not matter which one. You will have more hype and media attention than you can stand, regardless if the player is actually good or not. And I would vehemently disagree Manziel is a better QB than McCarron. McCarron is going to get an opportunity to compete for a starting position, even if it only ends being temporary. McCarron has proven to be a fierce competitor, a student of the game, and a leader. Manziel is none of that. That's why he's going to play in the Spring League, hoping somebody will believe he got his crap together, turned his life around, and is deserving of another shot in the NFL. I hope he has turned his life around. I truly do. On the football side, IMO, he's not a leader, nor does he have the will power or commitment to become a better player. He's camp fodder at best.

Manziel is proof people fall in love with the "flash" and image of a player instead of paying attention to the actual player. Johnny Football owes his collegiate career and draft position to Evans and the other Aggies receivers. They bailed Johnny out constantly. Rex Ryan created a national buzz and media attention for the Bills. How did that work out? Until somebody can show me proof that a correlation exists between media attention and a better team on the field, this has to be one of the stupidest rationale to acquire anyone, whether its a HC or at best, a camp fodder QB. Besides, do you think somebody will actually run out and buy Bills tickets just because JF made the camp fodder list?

Loved AJ when he came out of college. Would have snapped him up in the 3rd or 4th round in a heartbeat. Why do people think guys like Mayfield are franchise material and Aj is not? Because people get caught up in the "flash" and highlight reels. (See Johnny Football) With AJ, he played at Bama, that actually hurts him. People consider him a system guy, and cannot possibly be that good. Looking forward to see him play. Oh, yeah. ROLL TIDE ROLL!!! Cannot wait for A Game. Hoping to see Tua grab the starting spot.

Jalen Hurts fulfills lost bet. I love this guy.

https://www.ndinsider.com/football/notre-dame-football-to-vacate-wins-after-ncaa-denies-appeal/article_88e31422-b28a-11e7-a1a8-63391e5141e7.html I know the NCAA wants schools to self report violations, but every time I read something like this, I ask myself what's the incentive for the school. IIRC, there was a study done a few years that showed schools that self reported got bigger penalties than schools that lawyered up after the NCAA came sniffing around.

Even prior to this, his mother and father would not qualify as "model parents". JM's outlandish behavior was in part enabled by his parents. It was only after he became wildly out of control did they suddenly have concerns about his actions.

No, it was not. 2007 was the worst. In 2009, Saban won the NC. 2018 is his smallest class, which impacts the final rankings. Will the turnover the past 2 years have an impact? Sure it will. The beginning of the end? This where I have to . I have heard this song and dance before. In 2013, Auburn won the SEC and went on to lose the NC. Afterwards, I had to hear how Gus Malzahn was going dominate the SEC and own Saban. Since then, Gus is 1-3 vs Saban, and with 1 SECCG appearance where he got curb stomped in a rematch with UGA. In 2015, after losing to Ole Miss, I heard how Bama's dominance was over. The demise of Saban has begun. 3 straight NC appearances and 2 titles later ... Saban has proven he can adapt and develop talent he does land, regardless of the coaches he has on staff. That was my point. And as you pointed out, Kirby still has yet to prove that. Besides, you think Bama will continue to have the turnover it has had the past 2 years? You better hope not. That means Bama is on top or near the top, and once again, teams are looking to pluck from the best.

And if he doesn't? Oh, please. Why is it after some perceived Alabama "setback", people start yammering about the demise of Saban and Bama. It's not like Bama is suddenly scraping the bottom of the barrel in recruiting. Saban has 6 NC across 2 different programs with 3 different DC and at least 5 different OC. IMO, the loss of assistant coaches might have an impact, but I don't think it's going to be as bad as you hope.

Tosh Lupoi has been named/promoted as Bama's new DC. http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2018/02/alabama_expected_to_promote_to.html#incart_river_index

Looks like WR coach Mike Locksley is getting the nod for OC: https://www.seccountry.com/alabama/report-mike-locksley-named-new-alabama-offensive-coordinator

https://www.seccountry.com/auburn/report-auburn-set-hire-buffalo-ad-allen-greene-position