Cynical

Not a single solitary item. I never said you did. You claimed you had no other choice: I offered some choices. Don't stay here and throw a pissy party. Don't stay here and read other peoples "negative" views. Go to another board. Start your own.

I haven't bought tickets nor merchandise since Jauron has been hired. Thanks for playing! And if you do not like what you are reading here, feel free to go to another board, or better yet, go start your own. That way, you can be the moderator, and only allow people who think just like you! Hooray! We are 7-9! Excellent! Hooray! We are 7-9 again! Consistency! Boy, am I ever glad we hired the "Dick"! Hooray! We are 6-6! Stay the course boys! We want consistency! 7-9 here we come! Hooray! Looks like another three more years!

Dibs is the one seeming to claim the Bills have better talent now when compared to 2005. I am just trying to get him to verify that is his position.

One option is to do what you do, shove your head in the snow, and gleefully accept what ever is delivered via the alternate entrance.

So to clarify, you are not basing your statement "the team is better" on a W-L record, but on the perception the players individually are better? And the reason the Bills have not achieved a better W-L (this season yet to be determined) could be based on the perception Dick doesn't have a clue how to utilize said talent?

Unfortunately, yes. Some people are so desperate for success, any success, they will gladly accept a failure because they found something positive about it. But what do I know. I am just a needy, greedy Bills fans wanting a "HOF caliber coach".

Why worry. Pack your shorts and suntan lotion. And when you arrive, if it's cold and snowy, look on the bright side, it's not your fault you brought shorts.

It's already been established you want the Bills to lose. As far as you are concerned, the Bills are on course. Me, I'm just a greedy, needy Bills fan wanting a "HOF caliber coach".

We do? At present, the Bills are 6-6 with the real possibility of losing the next 4 games. That means the Bills could end up with a 6-10 record. Since the season isn't over yet, let's assume the Bills do lose the next 4. Would you still be willing to say the Bills are better?

I'd rather be a NY Jet fan than be a Dolphins fan! (my understanding is, a lot of Dolphin fans HATE the Jets fans)

Typical "needy" Bills fan. What do you know.

The Bills are exactly where he wants them to be - mediocre to crappy. He thinks the fans of the Bills are "needy" for wanting a "HOF caliber coach".

Last time I checked, the Chicago Bears and the Buffalo Bills are two different franchises. Both were in operation from 1999-2003, and both still are in operation starting in 2006.

Okay. Let me rephrase that: I think believe a big chunk of our problems are caused by him (Jauron), either directly or indirectly. Your argument would be more valid if the Bills were the first team Jauron has coached. It's not. He achieved similar results on a completely different team.

Nope. But I think a big chunk of our problems are caused by him, either directly or indirectly.

Assuming some wild chance Gruden did come to Buffalo, Monte would not follow. It is being heavily rumored Monte plans on going to UTenn with his son.

That is so wrong. That is very difference between good and bad coaches. Good coaches are able to get the players to believe in the system, and go out on the field to give their all. When players stop buying into the system, and just start going through the motions, that is a sure sign the coaches have lost the team. The coaching staff is toast. Again, good coaches inspire players to exceed their expectations, and to raise their level of play.

Too late. He's already .

Replacing "expensive washed up cancerous scrubs" with under performing and/or overpaid free agents and rookies is not improving the team. Replacing "old crap" with "new crap" is still CRAP. Horsecrap. Pure, unfiltered horse manure. I could care less when you said the Dolphins were a dangerous team, you completely do not get the concept they are a dangerous team WITHIN 1 YEAR after they pushed the reset button. Even if Atlanta is the hiccup, what does that make Baltimore? And Washington? And how do explain Eric "Half Wit" Mangini leading the division, and in position for a second playoff appearance? You are so caught up in "excuse" making you cannot see the big picture. Here is the big picture for you: There are teams in the NFL doing just as good or better than Bills with less experience, less talent, and/or in less time. HOF "caliber" coach is a coach that knows how to win and win consistently. Otherwise, they would not be a HOF "caliber" coach. Therefore: HOF "caliber" coach = winning (or winner if you prefer) coach. Suffice it to say, a coach that can only generate one winning season out of 7 (and now possibly 8) does NOT fall under this category. So, yes. I am greedy. I am needy. I want a HOF "caliber" coach (winning). I want my team to win this year. I want them to win next year, the year after that, and the year after that, etc ... Meanwhile, you think 1 winning season out of 7(8) is sufficient. You are defending it to the end. You got what you wanted. Just think. The Bills could conceivably end up 6-10. You must be overjoyed.

Why not? What evidence do you have that dictates otherwise? Are you fugging kidding me?! Unlike you, I want a winner. I just cannot settle for mediocre. If that's being "needy", than I'm needy. No wonder you are willing to stick up for Jauron. You are quite happy accepting failure. You got your wish. I hope you enjoy the hell out of it.

Britney Spears during an interview in 2003 was asked for her opinion regarding the war on terrorism. Her response, to paraphrase, "We should just trust the president." You are right. We should never question or demand accountability from anybody or anything. We should just shut up, sit down, and bury our heads in the sand with the blissful ignorance that everything will be alright as long as we do not question. Where do I sign up to be so stupid?

And in their fifth year, Jauron went 7-9, for a second consecutive losing season, and was released, fired, kicked off the Chicago Bears. Fisher went 13-3, and went to the SB. So, both coaches, in the first 5 years as being a HC: Jauron went 35-45, and one playoff appearance where he was spanked. During that time, he produced 4 out of 5 losing seasons. Fisher went 44-36 with a SB appearance. During his time, he produced ONE losing record, 3 break evens, and 1 winning record. Jauron MAY have a knack for inheriting crap, but it has become obvious he only has the ability to add to it.

That's what makes the SF game so absolutely frustrating. Lynch was tearing it up, and somehow he's not getting carries down near the goal line? 16 plays in the red zone, Lynch ran the ball 3 times. Each time was on first down. One time per red zone trip. I do not get it. The Bills best player for the day, and they stop giving him the ball.

And like you don't. I like how you choose to just ignore Jauron's time in Chicago, and try to pass it off as "we do not know enough to speak wisely about". Are we to assume you know enough of the early part of Fisher's career to speak wisely about it, and to make the comparison to Jauron?

And went to the SB in his fifth. At the end of Jauron's fifth year, he was being kicked out of Chicago.