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Unfortunately, unless Jauron figures out how to an NFL HC, next year at this time we will be doing the same thing.

Hell no. That's because I truly believe Jauron is incapable of properly dissecting and analyzing a problem. He seems to coach from an X and O, percentages, and tendency perspective. But he does not fully understand how those percentages are created, and how they can be interpreted, and used.

Well, there is that fantasy of 'what if' as in 'what if the Bills had a real HC'.

Greer will be gone, and Simpson has proven he's not a starter. Expect at least one premium draft pick and possible one or two others on the second day wasted on selecting DB's.

FYI: The Bills were 6th youngest. There was a link to an article posted in another thread. Miami is younger. Also, why d you think there is a better chance of success in staying with Jauron as opposed to selecting a new coach? Jauron has well proven he is nothing but a loser. IMO, the Bills would have had better chance of success with a new a coach than sticking with the loser.

That's it. That's all we need to know. Everything else is moot. As for the rest of everything you posted, some teams will decline, others will rise, but the Bills will still be stuck with Kotite Jauron.

If you think Jauron is a good coach and leader, then why do you not agree on keeping him?

I have openly challenged anyone who has promoted the notion the Bills needed (should, etc..) keep DJ next year. Rest assured, you are not the only person I have pestered. Your theory already has a kink in it. As Beerball posted a link to a BuffNews article clearly stating the Bills were 6th youngest in the league. Kansas City and Green Bay were tied for the youngest. Indy is third. Cincy is fourth. Miami is fifth. And before you run off and do your research, you better clearly define the following: What are the impact and non impact positions. What defines a rotational starter. Clarify your definition of "veteran". (How many years, is it strictly limited to the NFL, or do you include college and high school? Playing time? Starting or not?) I do not follow the Falcons with any regularity. And IMO, you might want to look beyond just the teams that made the playoffs. Try looking at teams that produced a winning record. You know, something Jauron has not been able to produce in 7 of 8 seasons as a HC.

Sorry. However, Big Cat is a well known Jauron apologist. And if you have read his whole argument, you would have seen a veiled attempt to pin the blame for the season onto the Bills "youth". Jauron may or may not be a "problem", but youth "is". His argument is a joke. He touches on Edwards being only in his "tenth" overall season, while Favre and Pennington are in their nth NFL season. Selective evidence in attempt to cloud the issue. He ignores players like Cassell, Flacco, and Ryan in his argument. Then he presents how the Bills only have Josh Reed being "close" to being a veteran at 7 years. Notice how he never "defines" when a player becomes a veteran. He leaves that up the reader. More clouding of the issue. Then he has other qualifiers: In starting rotation ... In positions that matter ... That's just more smoke, and gives him an out if you can show proof his "youth" claim has holes. All of that is just smoke and mirrors to hide the real issue: He wants Jauron back as HC next year. Somewhere, somehow, a part of him still believes Jauron will finally get "it", and prove him (Big Cat) right about Jauron being a "good". Big Cat even tips his hand about it. After next year, if a new guy comes in and achieves success, it will be due to "Jauron's players". So, I apologize if I wrongly classified you as Jauron apologist.

I see you are back to making "excuses" of why the great head coach 'Kotite' Jauron has been unable to produce a winning record ... Complete desperation on your part. It's getting harder to find excuses, isn't it? I like all the 'qualifiers' you have included in those sentences. According to you, only players having at LEAST 7 years of playing experience constitutes as being "close" to being a veteran. Questions: How many years does a player have to have to constitute as being classified as a "veteran"? What are the classifications of the players that have 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, etc ... years of playing experience, but do not have enough playing experience to be classified as a "veteran"? Have you consider the reason the Bills impact have not been able to have an impact is because the coaching staff continues to put our impact players in bad positions? Kind of hard to have an impact when the QB is running to sidelines to get a play with time running out because the coaching staff is in complete buffoon mode and is unprepared. Kind of hard to have impact when your games best player is averaging over 8 yards per carry, but is being yanked out of the line up and/or not touching ball down near the goal line. How many seasons has Matt Ryan been playing? Joe Flacco? Matt Cassell? Why does he deserve one more year? 1 winning season in 8. Why does he deserve one more year? The complete inability to compete against the better teams in the league during his entire head coaching career. Why does he deserve one more year? Game strategies and management that puts your best player on the bench near the goal line. Or has the team settling for a FG instead of a TD in a nothing to lose game. Or etc.... Why does he deserve one more year? Time outs wasted because the coaching staff is caught unprepared to a given situation, or cannot make up its mind. Why does he deserve one more year? A coaching staff that coaches not lose (Yes. He does coach not lose. One or two plays during a game does NOT negate that style of play). Why does he deserve one more year? Jauron and his coaching staff have been out coached by even the half wit and rookie head coaches. Why does he deserve one more year? What HAS Jauron DONE that deserves anything but to be taken out back, pistol whipped, horse stomped, beaten with baseball bats, and strung up ( all figuratively speaking, and not to be taken literally)? If watching the Bills this year has NOT convinced you Kotite Jauron is a clueless of a HC, then nothing will. Jesus. You really must "addicted" Jauron. You do not want to go through option 2 again (to hell if it produces a winner), but you will settle for option 1. At least that way, you will still be able to say Jauron did at least one thing right, and your justification in him will be confirmed. And you will be still able to cling to the notion if Jauron had at least one more year .....

And keep hoping that at some point a retarded HC instantly gains some football intelligence, and is able to pull a miracle out of his ass. Yep, all the Bills need to do is add players and experience and, and we fans can continue to expect losing season after losing season while the Jauron apologists continue to look for excuse after excuse of why the problem is not Jauron. End the abortion NOW.

The day Donte becomes a leader is the day Donte stops running his mouth, and starts holding his teammates accountable.

Classic! The OP is the same poster that thinks Jauron needed at least 5 years before the Bills could even consider making the playoffs. Incorrect. The correct answer is: He is worse than we currently think. Richard Jauron is "Rich Kotite v. 2.0". In fact, that's an insult to Kotite. Kotite finally realized he himself was the problem, and quit. Jauron is too stupid to figure out that conclusion. One winning season in eight. Reality says NO. I wonder how Chicago feels since they let Jauron go?

Sure he does. When the players are cold, that hot cocoa comes from somewhere.

IMO, I do not get that impression. I think the Bills players respect Jauron as a person, and for what he will do for them, but when push comes to shove, they have no respect for his coaching/management abilities.

(1) 'Kotite' Jauron's coaching record disagrees. (2) The modifiers of 'almost always' and 'recently' to describe the competitiveness level of my favorite team are the kind of modifiers I expect out of a 1st year HC. Too bad 'Kotite' Jauron is in his 8th year overall and his third year as the Bills HC.

Go. And more importantly, take Dick with you. Please, for the love of God, and all that is humane, FIRE THE DICK.

Coulda, shoulda, woulda, ... if, if, if ... If I had played the Lotto, I would have won.

I understand this is hard for the Jauron apologist to grasp: It is possible for coaching to be the sole reason a team sucks. Bad coaches have the ability to lead good players to poor/mediocre results. Ah yes. The Belichick example. When all else fails, compare the crappy coach to a good coach in attempt to prove that coaching does not matter, and it's all about the players. Like Sisyphean Bills has said before: "Jauron is just a victim of venomous fate."

And every single one of those guys defined themselves by their 8th year. Jauron is no exception. He has defined himself what he is. A LOSER. End the abortion NOW.

Yes we do. A Loser. 1 winning season in 8. Enough said. End the abortion NOW.

Oh, come on. What would happen? Hurt their feelings? The players are highly paid professionals playing a game. I want to see a real coach motivate this team. A coach that will instill the fear of accountability. Every player, and I do mean every player (that includes pretty boy Edwards, Lynch, Poz, etc..) is expendable, and can be replaced. If they cannot or will not do what it takes to play every game with intensity for the full 60 minutes, they are gone. No questions, no compromises. Bye.

This is Dick "Kotite" Jauron's EIGHTH year as a head coach. He has produced 1 winning season out of 8. He has not been able to generate a winning record against the better teams in the league his entire head coaching career. Enough is enough. End the abortion NOW.

I would not be looking at those 6 wins against Bama as evidence of his "big game capabilities". During Tubby's 10 year tenure, Bama had 5 different head coaches and was dealing with a 5 year NCAA probation that included three years of reduced scholarships.

No, the all cap cutting did NOT already take place. Go back and look at the date of the first article: 12/31/2000. Even that blurb of the article talks about how the Bills will have to let players go. Does that sound like all cap cutting is done? IIRC, after the 2000 season, the Bills were projected to be OVER the cap limit for the 2001 season based on the then present contracts. By the end of 2000, Butler was handing the keys to Wilson and was looking to board the plane to San Diego. As Ramius pointed out, TD had to go in and clean up Butler's mess. And that mess was huge. As for the June 1 date, IMO, you are trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill. If TD cuts players before June 1, the entire remaining signing bonus hits the 2001 cap. By cutting the player after June 1, only 1 year of the bonus impacted the 2001 salary cap, with the rest coming due in 2002. If you thought the 2001 team was bad, the team would have been worse if he had cut everybody before June 1.