Cynical

It's hard to do chores.

The Bills may be a young team, but that rationale is growing old quickly. The Dolphins were younger than the Bills this year, played what turned out to be a "tougher" schedule than the Bills, and the Phins won the division within one year of "blowing it up ". Three years later, we fans are still "hoping" that with just the right off season moves, and another year of experience, our players will somehow overcome the inept coaching they are saddled with, and provide us with a winning season.

On what? Whether people disagree with you or not? I do not know if you would like the results of that poll ...

Based on his (Flutie's) play over that season, I think MOST people would disagree with you.

No, the Bills were actually worried about continuity when Levy took over. In fact, that was the reason Levy wanted to RETAIN Mularkey, but Mularkey resigned. Levy then turned around and hired douche bag Jauron, who decided he wanted to run the Tampax 2 defense, and that abortion of an offense. The FO 'blew up' the team to accommodate a lifeless scum sucking POS loser of a HC.

The sad part is the Big East already has a school in place that plays football but chooses not to as a part of the Big East; Notre Dame. The conference needs to grow a set, and tell ND to play FB as a part of the Big East conference, or leave the conference all together.

1. Early 40's, been a fan for 30 years. 2. Outlook - seriously pessimistic. Wilson is not the best owner in the NFL. However, as long he recognized crap and was willing to make changes in an effort to improve, I was able to stomach the mediocrity, and approached every season with optimism. But after the 2007 season, that all changed. It was apparent Jauron learned little to nothing from his first stint as a HC, and he was following the same template that caused him to fail in Chicago. IMHO, I have no idea how anybody can believe Jauron will lead this team to anything but a losing season especially after viewing this past season.

Yeah, that's it. The only problem with this team was "bad luck". Amazing how "bad luck" just follows Dick 'Kotite' Jauron around. Still simple enough. Get rid of Jauron, and get rid of the "bad luck".

The other assumption you make is they would be starting someplace else, or get stuck with a coach they do not like. As "crappy" as Buffalo is as place to live and work, it is still one of only 32 situations in the USA where an athlete can play in the NFL.

Unfortunately, unless Jauron figures out how to an NFL HC, next year at this time we will be doing the same thing.

Hell no. That's because I truly believe Jauron is incapable of properly dissecting and analyzing a problem. He seems to coach from an X and O, percentages, and tendency perspective. But he does not fully understand how those percentages are created, and how they can be interpreted, and used.

Well, there is that fantasy of 'what if' as in 'what if the Bills had a real HC'.

Greer will be gone, and Simpson has proven he's not a starter. Expect at least one premium draft pick and possible one or two others on the second day wasted on selecting DB's.

FYI: The Bills were 6th youngest. There was a link to an article posted in another thread. Miami is younger. Also, why d you think there is a better chance of success in staying with Jauron as opposed to selecting a new coach? Jauron has well proven he is nothing but a loser. IMO, the Bills would have had better chance of success with a new a coach than sticking with the loser.

That's it. That's all we need to know. Everything else is moot. As for the rest of everything you posted, some teams will decline, others will rise, but the Bills will still be stuck with Kotite Jauron.

If you think Jauron is a good coach and leader, then why do you not agree on keeping him?

I have openly challenged anyone who has promoted the notion the Bills needed (should, etc..) keep DJ next year. Rest assured, you are not the only person I have pestered. Your theory already has a kink in it. As Beerball posted a link to a BuffNews article clearly stating the Bills were 6th youngest in the league. Kansas City and Green Bay were tied for the youngest. Indy is third. Cincy is fourth. Miami is fifth. And before you run off and do your research, you better clearly define the following: What are the impact and non impact positions. What defines a rotational starter. Clarify your definition of "veteran". (How many years, is it strictly limited to the NFL, or do you include college and high school? Playing time? Starting or not?) I do not follow the Falcons with any regularity. And IMO, you might want to look beyond just the teams that made the playoffs. Try looking at teams that produced a winning record. You know, something Jauron has not been able to produce in 7 of 8 seasons as a HC.

Sorry. However, Big Cat is a well known Jauron apologist. And if you have read his whole argument, you would have seen a veiled attempt to pin the blame for the season onto the Bills "youth". Jauron may or may not be a "problem", but youth "is". His argument is a joke. He touches on Edwards being only in his "tenth" overall season, while Favre and Pennington are in their nth NFL season. Selective evidence in attempt to cloud the issue. He ignores players like Cassell, Flacco, and Ryan in his argument. Then he presents how the Bills only have Josh Reed being "close" to being a veteran at 7 years. Notice how he never "defines" when a player becomes a veteran. He leaves that up the reader. More clouding of the issue. Then he has other qualifiers: In starting rotation ... In positions that matter ... That's just more smoke, and gives him an out if you can show proof his "youth" claim has holes. All of that is just smoke and mirrors to hide the real issue: He wants Jauron back as HC next year. Somewhere, somehow, a part of him still believes Jauron will finally get "it", and prove him (Big Cat) right about Jauron being a "good". Big Cat even tips his hand about it. After next year, if a new guy comes in and achieves success, it will be due to "Jauron's players". So, I apologize if I wrongly classified you as Jauron apologist.

I see you are back to making "excuses" of why the great head coach 'Kotite' Jauron has been unable to produce a winning record ... Complete desperation on your part. It's getting harder to find excuses, isn't it? I like all the 'qualifiers' you have included in those sentences. According to you, only players having at LEAST 7 years of playing experience constitutes as being "close" to being a veteran. Questions: How many years does a player have to have to constitute as being classified as a "veteran"? What are the classifications of the players that have 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, etc ... years of playing experience, but do not have enough playing experience to be classified as a "veteran"? Have you consider the reason the Bills impact have not been able to have an impact is because the coaching staff continues to put our impact players in bad positions? Kind of hard to have an impact when the QB is running to sidelines to get a play with time running out because the coaching staff is in complete buffoon mode and is unprepared. Kind of hard to have impact when your games best player is averaging over 8 yards per carry, but is being yanked out of the line up and/or not touching ball down near the goal line. How many seasons has Matt Ryan been playing? Joe Flacco? Matt Cassell? Why does he deserve one more year? 1 winning season in 8. Why does he deserve one more year? The complete inability to compete against the better teams in the league during his entire head coaching career. Why does he deserve one more year? Game strategies and management that puts your best player on the bench near the goal line. Or has the team settling for a FG instead of a TD in a nothing to lose game. Or etc.... Why does he deserve one more year? Time outs wasted because the coaching staff is caught unprepared to a given situation, or cannot make up its mind. Why does he deserve one more year? A coaching staff that coaches not lose (Yes. He does coach not lose. One or two plays during a game does NOT negate that style of play). Why does he deserve one more year? Jauron and his coaching staff have been out coached by even the half wit and rookie head coaches. Why does he deserve one more year? What HAS Jauron DONE that deserves anything but to be taken out back, pistol whipped, horse stomped, beaten with baseball bats, and strung up ( all figuratively speaking, and not to be taken literally)? If watching the Bills this year has NOT convinced you Kotite Jauron is a clueless of a HC, then nothing will. Jesus. You really must "addicted" Jauron. You do not want to go through option 2 again (to hell if it produces a winner), but you will settle for option 1. At least that way, you will still be able to say Jauron did at least one thing right, and your justification in him will be confirmed. And you will be still able to cling to the notion if Jauron had at least one more year .....

And keep hoping that at some point a retarded HC instantly gains some football intelligence, and is able to pull a miracle out of his ass. Yep, all the Bills need to do is add players and experience and, and we fans can continue to expect losing season after losing season while the Jauron apologists continue to look for excuse after excuse of why the problem is not Jauron. End the abortion NOW.

The day Donte becomes a leader is the day Donte stops running his mouth, and starts holding his teammates accountable.

Classic! The OP is the same poster that thinks Jauron needed at least 5 years before the Bills could even consider making the playoffs. Incorrect. The correct answer is: He is worse than we currently think. Richard Jauron is "Rich Kotite v. 2.0". In fact, that's an insult to Kotite. Kotite finally realized he himself was the problem, and quit. Jauron is too stupid to figure out that conclusion. One winning season in eight. Reality says NO. I wonder how Chicago feels since they let Jauron go?

Sure he does. When the players are cold, that hot cocoa comes from somewhere.

IMO, I do not get that impression. I think the Bills players respect Jauron as a person, and for what he will do for them, but when push comes to shove, they have no respect for his coaching/management abilities.

(1) 'Kotite' Jauron's coaching record disagrees. (2) The modifiers of 'almost always' and 'recently' to describe the competitiveness level of my favorite team are the kind of modifiers I expect out of a 1st year HC. Too bad 'Kotite' Jauron is in his 8th year overall and his third year as the Bills HC.