Cynical

How many turnovers did we get against the Cardinals this past season? Or the Browns? The Dallas game was one of those once in a blue moon type of game.

Cool. Can you start one for the pollyanna sunshine pumpers who are convinced, despite evidence to contrary, that the upcoming year will be THE year (just like the past 3 years were going to be THE year), because no matter what the Bills do or do not due, it always the right move?

A.) I never said sneaking alcohol into a bar was a crime, nor was I trying to imply it. B.) What I was implying seems to be a pattern of repeated "stupidity". Mr. Lynch seems a little "dense" in understanding the concepts of good behavior, or at least putting on the appearance of good behavior. And if cannot come to grips with the "good behavior" concept, the chance of him screwing up again (on something more serious) seems pretty high at this point.

Let's hope. But we are talking about a person who was kicked out of a bar for bringing in his own alcohol. Multiple times. One would think he would have figured he could not do that after the first time.

The Bills moved up from the bottom to average, and they did this with the SECOND easiest schedule last year. With a theoretically stiffer schedule next season, the Bills will need a stronger pass rush just to remain average. Meanwhile, the sad sack offense is still wallowing in the depths of he** with no real expectations of it moving upward.

Great. When Marshawn continues to be Marshawn, he can watch the Bills games from behind bars. Then maybe Marshawn's new "roomamte" will be impressed with "Marshawn being Marshawn".

Well, there is that. I was just replying to the poster who said Poz was a prototypical MLB.

Prototypical? Maybe my eyes have deceived me, but I could have sworn I read an article where this coaching staff was open to the idea of moving Poz to the outside if they acquired another MLB. That doesn't sound prototypical to me. Nor does it sound like the staff is 100% positive Poz can play MLB.

You've got the points, you just need to connect them. It's nothing more than a general consensus or majority vote. Let's look at this way. Let's take three valid arguments: coaching, QB, OL You say QB is the biggest problem. I say coaching is the biggest problem. TSW member "X" says OL is the biggest problem. General consensus among us 3 is the Bills suck because they have not addressed the coaching/QB/OL problem. Scenario: Right after the season, Ralph was fuming about the teams collapse after a 5-1 start. Extension be damned, he cuts loose Jauron and brings in another HC. I am thrilled with the new choice. General consensus: Me: Happy You: Unhappy - still have not addressed the QB problem "X": Unhappy - they do not get it. Until the OL is fixed, nothing will work. Overall: 1 yeah, 2 nay = Bills still suck. So, unless the Bills address the vast majority of the problems impacting this team, the overall general consensus will always be the "Bills suck". Just think, if the Bills would just solve the Owner/GM/HC/QB/OL/TE/WR/DT/DE/"Pass Rush" problem this offseason, the vast majority of us Bills fans would be happy campers. I am not surprised by Coles decision. I had posted in another thread that it was obvious Coles had little to no desire to play in Buffalo, and that I would not surprised to learn his contract is similar to the one Buffalo offered. As it turns out, and without knowing the finer details of the actual offers, Buffalo was willing to pay $6m a year for up to 4 years, and Coles ends up signing for $7m a year for 4 years.

While this very true, I think the OP was pointing out the fact that regardless of what the Bills do in attempt to improve themselves, there will be some faction(s) of the fan base that will still complain the Bills did not address problem "x" (which is the REAL problem), and therefore we should not be surprised the Bills will still suck. In other words, while everybody is disagreeing on "how not to suck", the majority seem to be focused on finding that "one" thing that provides the most bang for the buck. (or at the very least, how the numerous problems need to be prioritized) I say HC. Somebody else says QB. A third says OL. Another says "pass rush" (personally, I do not get that one. Yes, the Bills need a better pass rush, but how does that help correct an inept O?)

I may have not clearly defined my point: The Bills focused on a TE that could block, and it was hoped he would develop into one that could also catch. (Royal). That did not work out well. My point was they should focus on a TE that can catch, and see if we can develop him into being able to block. I agree. However, there are very few of those types of TE playing in the NFL. Most clubs (like the Bills) have to find one or the other (pass vs block) and try to develop the guy into a more complete TE. I think we want essentially the same thing, but are just looking at it from different angles. This is mostly due to the inept coaching staff, and nothing to do with the players ability. Jauron and company seem clueless about the concept of "deception".

I do not have to kid myself. I was alive, breathing, and had graduated from HS before Levy even took over the Bills. I had a fairly neutral opinion of Levy when he took over. And I had no opinion of BB (other than it took some guts to get rid of Kosar). Um, no it does not. I have already stated on this board that one winning season will NOT change my perspective of Moron Jauron. In fact, prior to the start of last season, I stated Douche Bag needed to accomplish three things for me to even consider changing my opinion of him. Like the true failure Dick is, he has failed to accomplish even one item. There is no "want to fail". He is already a proven failure. Repeatedly. Dickie needs to stop talking about how he would "like to win", and actually prove he knows "how to win". And speaking of "sad", you are the same poster last year that had a problem with other posters talking about Trent Edwards injury history, like it somehow meant people were "wishing" Trent would get hurt. Now, in this thread, you "hope" Wilfork's hit (which he finally admitted this past year as being cheap and dirty, on a Bills player no less) will make Jauron look like a genius. My God. What lengths you would go to defend the loser HC.

You just keep thinking that.* BB, while being the HC of the Browns, got rid of Bernie Kosar, a favorite of the fans and the organization. I have no doubt BB would have eventually benched Bledsoe in favor of Brady. It was only a matter of time. Mo Lewis just accelerated the process. * But then again, you are the person that believes Cade McNown was "forced" upon Dick Jauron.

I thought we already had one of those "decent blocking TE". His name was Robert Royal. He sucked at catching. Time to try a new approach. Let's get a TE that can actually catch a ball. That way, when "checkdown charlie" ignores his WR (again ... well, hopefully not), he'll have another target to choose from. That way, if Edwards gets comfortable and confident throwing to a reliable TE, he'll start trusting his WR, and take chances down field.

Silly Jauron apologist! Even BB won a playoff game in his first 5 years. By his 8th season, he won a SB. 8 years later we are still hoping the "Dick" is capable of producing another winning season. You also must be a blast to watch games with. "We lost another one! YES!! Dick Jauron! You da MAN!!!" Back at you! Just remember, you got exactly what you wanted.

Yeah. Because 7 losing seasons out of 8 proves nothing.

I think it's pretty obvious nobody is willing to pay him what he thinks hes worth. Teams are not lined up around the corner for his services. I also think he now realizes it. He would have to be an idiot not to realize it. Just do not be surprised when Coles signs with another team, and we later find out the deal he signed was similar to the one the Bills offered. I do not care how those teams did in the playoffs. The big picture is being missed. Those teams made the playoffs. Football is a team game. The same youth that cost them a playoff game is the same youth that got them there. You can spin it and say they had experienced QBs, but it was the same experienced QBs in the playoffs. And how you account for the Falcons and the Ravens both making the playoffs with rookie QBs?

Beebe was quick, just not as quick as Roscoe is (as you said, Roscoe is "amazingly" quick). Beebe reportedly ran a 40 in 4.21. You do not run it that fast by being slow off the line. (FWIW, SI.com listed RP running a 40 in 4.4).

Coles has little to no desire to play in Buffalo. That should be obvious by now. He will either end up going to the Bengals or the Vikes. Tendering Jackson that BS sum of cash is a smart move. I have no doubts that Jackson will get a better deal from the Bills before the start of TC. Peters has been offered a contract. As for being too damn young, that is a BS excuse thrown out by the Jauron apologists in attempt to cover up his horrendous coaching. This past season, two teams younger than the Bills made the playoffs, one of them being the Dolphins.

Take a number and get in line. You are number 125,258,589,986

Roscoe Parrish = Don Beebe v2.5 Both are/were quick Both are/were fast Both are/were dangerous in the open field w/ the ball and returning kicks Both are/were nothing more than a 3rd or 4th string WR If the Bills got a viable #2 WR, RP numbers would improve, but nowhere near what some people are expecting.

This is a pretty funny statement coming from one of the biggest Jauron apologists on this board. I wonder what "reason" you will offer next year as to why this "proven capable" HC was unable to produce a winning record yet again.

Trent made that statement during an interview with Mike Francesa from WFAN on January 30th, 2009. Original thread concerning the interview: http://www.stadiumwall.com/index.php?showtopic=82426 Link in OP to recorded interview is still valid. But here it is anyway: http://www.wfan.com/pages/744503.php Search page for "Trent Edwards", and listen to it. Note in the beginning, TE admits he is a Dodger fan, and is too critical of them. He also says that comes with the territory of being a "fan". Towards the end of the interview, Trent clearly states what Sisyphean Bills essentially said.

I especially liked the part near the beginning of interview where Trent admitted he was a Dodger fan, and he admitted was too critical of them (the Dodgers). Trent was a Stanford man. Does he even understand the concept of "hypocrite"?

See! Let's make it happen. The "Dick" will not be denied.