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in the end, it worked Peyton Manning had mediocre to poor coaches most of his career. Nice guys, though. The whole Belichick as Darth Vader in a hoodie, devoid of compassion or joy, existing solely to destroy souls and win Super Bowls, is pretty much spot on. Brady himself talks about how in his 20's he was more like a typical NFL player... in great shape, yes, but actually enjoyed life a bit. Burgers and beers after games. Like a human being. If he had one of the "aww shucks" good ole ball coaches maybe he never even wins 1 ring.

A lot has to do with the commitment too. Rivers has like 10 kids, so I could see him wanting to spend more time with family and not wanting to be on the road all the time. I've heard both Lamar and Mahomes say their goal is to play well into their 40's, so I think younger guys coming in have that idea early on and are taking the steps early on to try to do what Brady did, which he really didn't start doing until he was 35+ years old. That's a huge part of it: the team around a guy and how things are going. If you're 40, are still great, are reasonably healthy, and your long time team seems to have a whole bunch of young up and coming star players and a coach you love, then it's a lot easier to commit to a few more years of winning, going to the playoffs, and having chances at the Super Bowl than if you're on New England and stuck in the basement!

I think there are some specific reasons in those cases though. Ben didn't seem to believe in exercise and looked like an OT his last season or 2. Peyton and Rivers suffered a lot of injuries that piled up, and both started playing in a era that allowed a lot more vicious hits. These guys starting off now never played in that NFL. It's certainly true that to play into your 40's you first need to be very good, get a little lucky, but also be committed. The younger guys today are in such better hsape physically that I think it's realistic. Even Brady talks about how in his 20's he was nowhere near in the type of physical shape he was when he was in his late 30's. He ate burgers, drank beer, and had not yet started drinking kitten blood and eating souls. Not sure about the last part, but I think I heard it somewhere...

I think we'll see more and more QBs playing well into their 40's, because a lot of not doing it was mental, and the fact that it didn't happen much. I was listening to some pre-game coverage of the Super Bowl on Sirius XM, and they were doing the annual Joe Montana interview. He was talking about his time in KC and how he really regrets retiring when he did at age 38. He said he was "stupid" for doing it, and had some good years left. It made me think about how the game has changed. Back in the day, Montana being 38 was ancient. By then most guys were busted up, crippled versions of themselves. Yet here's "Joe Cool" saying he wishes he played another few seasons, into his 40's, at a time when that was unthinkable. Now, 40 is nothing. Brady played in 3 Super Bowls after age 40, winning 2. Diet is different, training is different, rules are different to protect QBs more and more, the offseason programs are different. IMO, a QBs prime years are also different. Physically it still might be the years from 27-33 or so, but mentally, which is more important for a QB, it might actually be their mid 30's, when the great ones become like another OC playing the game because they've done it for so long and the plays and reading defenses become second nature. Take Rodgers for example. He tore his Achilles at age 39 and by his 40th birthday 77 days later he was back at practice slinging the ball and (for some dumb reason) trying to intercept balls on defense. 15 years ago that injury happens to a 39 year old QB and they are done. A guy like Kirk Cousins who turns 36 this coming season was just at the NFL Honors show doing a comedy dance routine on his newly repaired Achilles and just played some of his best football the past couple seasons. He could sign somewhere and be a very effective to great 7 year starter there, easily. I could easily see Allen and Mahomes playing into their 40's, barring any major injuries. QBs retain their arm strength and accuracy, gain the mental edge, and have rules that protect them from the type of shots that guys like Kelly, Montana and Marino took game in and game out.

GB was trying to get away without spending resources on offense because Rodgers would make it work was the thought. Now with Love they suddenly start drafting WR in rounds 1 and 2 to surround the kid with talent. GB wasted Rodgers prime years. Sure, he's old now but 41 is nothing with the rules these days. He's got the arm and accuracy that he's always had, plus a gigantic chip on his shoulder.

Growing up watching football as a kid, a 50 yard FG was long, long distance. Now those are almost like extra points, especially once you get into playoff games with the best teams and best kickers. 60 is new 50, so if you receive at the 25 you only need 35 yard to be in FG range. Sudden death was too heavily weighted on the coin toss. Kickers are almost automatic now, for the most part anyway. In the past it was much more of a crapshoot. Norwood's FG in the SB was in the 40's in terms of distance and that was considered a tough FG then. Now, it's debatable whether you kick or take the ball first, which IMO proves it is a better system. If I end up with the ball first either by choice or because you chose to kick I am using all 4 downs until I'm in sound FG range but overall thinking TD and then go for 2. Sure, if I turn it over on downs I probably lose. If I punt I probably lose too. Why? First of all, if I punt, I'm done. You just need a FG and the game ends. So I'm using all 4 downs unless I'm in something crazy like 4th and 10 from your 23 yard line where I'm kind of forced to take the 3 and hope for a defensive stop. Everyone says if they have the ball 2nd and are down 7 that they would go for 2 to end the game. Reid said that would have been his strategy as well in the SB. So do you want to be on defense for the most consequential 2 point attempt, or offense? My thought process: go down, score 6 on your tired defense, then tack on 2 if possible. What if I miss the 2? Then I need to stop you from scoring a TD, which is no different than if I kick the XP because you're going to go for 2 anyways and beat me then, or make the entire game come down to a 2 pointer anyway where all the rules favor the offense. I'd rather be the one on offense for the big 2 point attempt. This gives me multiple ways to win. I'm up 8, you not only need the TD but also a successful 2 just to tie me. Then I just need to get a FG on your gassed defense, if you do all of that. If I'm up 6 I can still stop you on defense and win, because you still need to score a TD. I have all sorts of plays to stop you from doing that. 2 point attempts are slightly above 50/50 anyway, so if I'm up 7 and you score a TD you probably are going to win either way. So I would rather take my own 50/50+ shot at being up 8 and roll the dice that my D keeps you out of the end zone if we don't convert. We've never seen this play out under the Josh Allen playoff OT rule, but it would be fascinating to see if the first team to score a TD goes for 2. IMO, being up 7 is the same as being up 6: you're done either way if the other team answers with a TD.

no thanks McDermott has his flaws but he is at least showing the desire and ability to grow.

I predict the Jets finish #2 in our division and make life difficult for us a bit this season They won 7 games without a QB. With the Bills and Dolphins in the division. Rodgers is still very, very good, and we will see that in 2024. We'll still win the division, but the Jets will be no joke.

Aiyuk+Diggs= Von Miller type money/cap hit That's depressing, because I would much rather have the 2 WR than a DE who can't play anymore

Feliciano makes a good point: these guys have too much to live for, which BTW is also true for everyone None of this stuff is worth it. Make the goal to grow old on your farm.

we need to invest in some WRs Superstars if possible Complementary, just good

Those uniforms are great! For Jets uniforms, I mean. But seriously, this movement to add a gazillion stripes or boxes on jerseys, incorporate black into team color schemes where it doesn't belong, and make the helmets 7 colors of reflective nonsense is all junk. I really, really hope the Bills just keep their current uniforms, which are awesome, clean, and classic red, white and blue.

let's say it together: NO THANKSGIVING GAME! NO THANKSGIVING GAME! Whoever gets Thanksgiving ends up playing a couple of Thursdays. The last time we did it I think we had 3 Thursday games: opener vs the Rams, Thanksgiving, and another Thursday night after.

In the same game, did you guys see Reid literally jump on top of Chris Jones, who was laying on the ground exhausted after they won the SB? LOL Of course, it looked like the players had to help Reid off of him but the big man is loving life for sure. Like I've said numerous times, I've always been a huge fan of Reid, so I don't mind them winning IF we're out of it. I also think it shows Reid is a bit more... one of the guys? than most coaches. Not sure of the exact term. Now, different guys have different relationships with players. I can't imagine a Patriot shoving Belichick and getting right in his face, or a Bills player shoving McDermott, but those guys just work differently, which is fine and part of the game. Reid is the mad scientist, fun loving, type coach. So things can look worse than they really are with that sometimes. His players respect the heck out of him and love the guy.

is Andy Reid the temporarily uncrowned GOAT HC But what did he do BEFORE he had Mahomes?! Top 10 on the all-time HC wins list, all-time winningest HC of the Eagles, took them to a Super Bowl and multiple NFC Title games, went to KC, won a bunch of games with Alex Smith and went to the playoffs regularly. All before Mahomes played a down. Now let's do Belichick without Brady! Yes, BB has the rings advantage and more total wins. For now. He's done. Reid isn't.

I have no real hate for the Chiefs, but I my hatred level for the Patriots was 20/10

it's perfect the way it is now All elements of the game matter. Plus, KC had 4th down on their drive. It wasn't "easy" for them to just march down the field.

Reid did say in an interview afterward that Kelce caught him off guard, otherwise he wouldn't have knocked him back like that... LOL Coach didn't seem too bothered by it but then again, he just won his 3rd SB so he's probably not in the mood to be negative about anything

The thing about comparing players midstream is that it's fun but you never know what happens. What if Allen and the Bills hit on some young playmakers this off-season, beat KC next playoffs and go on to win 3 Super Bowls in a row? Or our own 3 wins in 5 years? We've had a lot of bad luck but that will even out. Maybe not with multiple SB wins but you never know. Let's say Allen gets to 3 in 5 years but wins all 3, beating KC each year to get there. Conversation changes then.

Brady had 3 Super Bowl wins at age 37. He won more after age 37 than before. That's crazy.

Is it just me or was the CBS broadcast a bit lacking? They never showed the coaches meet post game. They never showed Shanahan's post game comments, no sign off from Nance and Romo... Then an abrupt cut to a new show. Just odd

People upset at the Mahomes draft trade forget that Reid is one of the top few HCs of all time and has been good for 20+ years and also has a great staff

Reid inches closer to entering GOAT talk

Well this game took a while but became pretty entertaining in the end... Now the drive to getting to this game next season begins!

What happens if the clock runs out here?