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Gase built an entire career off of sending play suggestions to Peyton Manning for Peyton to either take or ignore. He could end up as Campbell's kneecap biter in Detroit!

What's the cemetery part? Every place I click it just says "and a cemetery..." Is he buying Tre a cemetery?

So Watson would cost 11 first round picks

I think it's an incredible chance to hit a home run. I think Watson is very good, but he's not Mahomes. He's a very good QB, but I'm not getting too carried away. If Watson really wants to be traded, here's a chance to cash in on a team that is desperate for a QB, get a ton of assets in return, and give yourself a shot to build the roster the way you want. I still love the idea of a Falcons/49ers/Texans trade: Texans get: Jimmy G, 4th overall pick (Atlanta), 12th overall pick (49ers) and Atlanta's 1st in 2022 Atlanta gets: Watson 49ers get: Matt Ryan Everyone comes out pretty good there. Texans get 2 picks in the top 12 this year, plus another 1st next year and a decent to good starting QB who they all know from their time in NE. Atlanta gets Watson by only giving up 2 1sts (Ryan would be gone anyway) and Shanahan reunites with Matt Ryan for a run in SF and only has to give up a 1st. If you're the Texans you just hit the jackpot and got rid of a headache/ PR mess. You've got your 65 year old first time HC and a TV preacher for a VP, but you might just luck into something good if you can hit on those 2 1sts this year with Jimmy G in the fold as well. Maybe you even get a 3rd or 4th for Watt while you're at it. The Texans, if they are smart and don't allow egos to cloud their judgement, don't lose a thing, and in fact, could make quite the profit from moving Watson.

Contract or not, the player always wins. Go ahead and try to dig in. Do you really want to go to war with your star QB? Egos are bad for business, and it sounds like the Texans are a disaster. I could see the Texans digging in, thing getting worse, and then trading him for less than they could get today. Carson Palmer went through this with the Bengals. The owner swore he would never trade Carson. Later, they did trade him, for less than they would have received earlier on when more teams could be in on the bidding.

Agreed. It's good for the league for the young guys to build their star power. Enough with Brady. Mahomes and the Chiefs beating Brady in this game is huge for the legacy of Mahomes and Reid. That's what I want to see.

I bet he goes to SF. Out of conference, the NE guys running the Texans know Jimmy G, and SF could include a player to sweeten the deal. Texans never have to face Watson to get to the Super Bowl (not really an issue but to their thinking it might be)

This has a chance of looking like the Atlanta/NE SB, without the comeback. Just a good old fashioned, mid 80's domination that is totally 1 sided.

Chiefs will win by 10 Their defense is fast and gets pressure with the DL. Brady has been air mailing the ball downfield hoping for a big play or a flag. As soon as Green Bay started to come back he just started lobbing up gifts, throwing a pick on 3 consecutive drives. Green Bay was getting some pressure, but their DL is nothing like KC's pass rushers. Bucs have not really had to consistently drive the ball these playoffs. Yes, they make some plays, but they are not a consistent offense. They live and die on the big turnover that sets them right up for a score. Both the Saints and especially the Packers gift-wrapped them free TDs by either totally blowing a coverage (GB before half) or fumbling right in their own end (GB right after half) that gave the Bucs 14 free points. So, all that said, if KC plays the way they can on offense and scores 30+ there is going to be a ton of pressure on the Tampa passing game to keep up, and Brady will toss picks that will sink their chances. The only wild card is Tampa's defense hits hard and plays a little dirty, so Mahomes better protect himself. Brady simply will not take a hit. He'll just drop and live to play another down if there is pressure.

Is he a big, sloppy 350+ DT or OL who is filled with rage?

True, but Doug Pederson beat Belichick in the Super Bowl, as did Coughlin twice.

I posted this in the Culley to Houston thread, but it makes more sense to pose here because it's about what this game means for Andy Reid's legacy. Colin Cowherd posed a question yesterday that I thought was nuts at first, but now I'm not 100% sure. IF Reid ends up winning 4-5 Super Bowls, including a back to back, is he in the GOAT conversation 10 years from now? Reid is only 62 now, and has said he wants to coach another decade. It's pretty well known that he'll coach the Chiefs until he is 100% totally done with coaching forever. This is what he has worked his entire career for. There's a lot in Reid's favor. He's only 62, 6 years younger than Belichick. He's currently 6th all-time in regular season wins, only 5 behind Lambeau, who he will pass next season. Belichick is only 59 wins ahead of Reid in 3rd place all-time. If Reid coaches for 5 years after Belichick retires (and being younger by 6 years and in an amazing spot makes that possible) then Reid could very well end up ahead of Belichick on the all-time wins list, especially with the 2 teams the way they are now. Let's say in 2021 KC wins 5 more games than NE and Belichick calls it quits or is let go there in a "mutual parting" (it's not as crazy as it sounds). Now the margin is 54 games, which means if Reid coaches 5 more years after next and averages 11 wins per year he finishes with 1 more win that Belichick all-time. Total wins is going to end up a LOT closer between the 2 than it might seem before looking into it. Super Bowl wins as a HC is probably always going to be Belichick, because he banked a few when he was much younger. He was only in his late 40's/early 50's when he won his first, second, and third Super Bowls. However, if Reid goes back to back here and picks up another 2 over the course of the next 8-10 years, it gets very interesting. 4 in 10 years vs 6 in 20 years. IF that happens, Reid would have a higher winning % in the Super Bowl (4-1) than Belichick (6-3). Then there's the coaching trees. Reid's coaching tree is MUCH more impressive than Belichick's. Hopefully by then McDermott will have joined the list of Reid assistants who have won a Super Bowl as a head coach. Today, sure, it's not a discussion. Even if Reid and KC go back to back here it's still not. But 5-10 years from now it could get very interesting, especially seeing how Brady keeps winning and Belichick's team is a disaster. Reid won (although not the super Bowl but he got there) with McNabb, a lot of games with Alex Smith, and won it all with Mahomes. 2 different teams in 2 different conferences with 3 different QBs. Big Red just keeps racking up the W's. Belichick has never won without Brady. If KC 3 peats then things get interesting 1 year from now, but for obvious reasons I don't even want to think about that!

Any team that seems close but without an answer at QB should break out the credit card and mortgage the future to get Watson. You're not really "giving up picks" but turning a maybe into a certainty. Watson is a proven top 5-7 QB who is young. 1st round picks don't always work out, or often are "meh" once a couple of years go by. You could have a top QB for the next decade (easily) or a WR,CB and T that may or may not be any good in a handful of years for the guy who takes over for you when you're fired.

What about an Atlanta/SF, Houston trade? Houston gets: Jimmy G, SF 2021 1st, ATL 2021 1st, 2022 1st Atlanta gets: Watson SF gets: Matt Ryan Everyone wins there. Houston gets 3 #1s, with 2 this year to build, and Jimmy G Atlanta gets Watson for 2 1sts and Ryan, who would be out anyway, SF gets Ryan for Jimmy G and a 1st.

Cowherd posed a question yesterday that is worth considering... If Reid ends up winning 4-5 Super Bowls is HE the GOAT HC, and not Belichick? He'll have the wins, the coaching tree (which will only grow), and will have done it on 2 teams with multiple QBs in both conferences. Look at Reid's coaching tree. Harbuagh and Pederson have won Super Bowls as head coaches, and Reich has an OC on Philly. Reid is 62 and has said he wants to coach for another decade. It all has to happen first, of course.

For the Bills, I would say Addison, Morse or Star. We don't have a ton of terrible contracts, though, as I look through it. For other NFL players, guys like Matt Ryan (49 million in dead cap) come to mind.

It's the lighting, 100% Look at how different the away uniform looks in KC versus NE: The blue and red on the Bills uniforms are much more crisp, and the white helmet glitter pops in the photo of Diggs in NE from this year. In the photo of Allen and the chiefs player you can see how yellow the lighting is in KC. Even the Chiefs red looks darker because of it, more muted.

I didn't know that about Jimmy G... That complicates things. I imagine he would agree, knowing that he would be guaranteed the starting role in Houston in that type of trade. Plus that division is hardly a juggernaut the way the NFC West is, so there's opportunity in the AFC South.

I think McDermott will learn from this. He seems like a very reflective guy who is willing to grow as a HC. Sometimes we forget that coaches, just like players, need to grow to reach their ceiling. Andy Reid is what a coach reaching his ceiling looks like. For years Reid fell short in the playoffs, largely due to poor coaching decisions. Now he has a super team that seemingly can do whatever it wants.

Now it's getting interesting.... SF gives: 3 1sts, Samuel and Jimmy G Houston gives: Watson I still do that deal if I'm SF. I can find another WR in round 2 or 3, or in FA.

I could see it. Imagine Shanahan with a guy like Watson AND that running game and defense. They would still have picks in rounds 2+ every year as well. What a fun division that would be with Watson, Murray and Wilson.

If you kick the FG you probably lose. If you go for it and don't make it, you probably lose. If you go for it and score the TD you've got a shot. 1 of those 3 decisions gives you a chance to win the game. Kicking a FG and going 4 and out are pretty much the same thing. You need to score 30+ to be in the game at the end, so unless you score 10 FGs you aren't getting there with 3's.

I want to hear Beane say: "We are going to draft a big, sloppy 350+ pound DT to play next to Oliver and encourage him to hit the downtown food scene once he gets here. "

Well, of course the players would have to agree. I think they might, because remember that the % is of their remaining deal, which is not guaranteed anyway. Teams could still cut them and they get nothing going forward, it just screws the team's cap up and reduces the money out there for free agents.

Watson to SF would be really interesting... Pick 12 this year, and a 1st in the next 2 seasons, plus Jimmy G could get it done. So it's 3 1sts, with one being #12 overall in 2021, and Jimmy G, who did just play in a Super Bowl.