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For Metcalf: 2025: 2nd round pick (earlier of our 2) 2026: 3rd round pick pick For Garrett: 2025: #1 2026: #1 2027: #1

Steve Young was on (I think Rich Eisen's show) and related that Tom Brady ran up to him pre game during his last year with the Bucs and the two were chatting about him still playing and he said "Steve! The middle of the field is always open and nobody covers the flats... and nobody can hit me!" Today's passing game is about hitting the open guys in the flats and middle of the field and picking your time to throw one deep once the defense gets frustrated. Worked Brady's whole career but most offenses and QBs are too impatient. Point being... We need guys who get open in the slot. That's where the work is. Having a deep threat is important too, but guys who can get open are always needed.

that team has come so far so fast... I didn't like the Quinn hire but he seems like a great coach for that team. Their front office is also great. Daniels is obviously a big part of it, but still.. they are well run

Cook. We drafted him, developed him, and he is great and makes plays for us. Let's reap the benefits and pay the player.

I think that's the only way the Browns do it. In these types of negotiations if you can come in and say "we can solve your biggest problem" that goes a long way. Garrett being upset is probably not looked at as a major problem by the team, because players get upset all the time but usually money talks. But that albatross of Watson... That might move the needle. It's kind of perfect that he will miss the entire 2025 season (likely) with the reinjured Achilles, because the new team could just stash him on IR, agree with him to stay away from the team on gamedays but get rehab and treatment in the facility, and cut him after the 2025 season, possibly post June 1 to spread the cap pain. Fans and media would all understand that it was part of the price to pay for a generational talent like Garrett and Watson isn't really part of the team or the plan going forward. Watson gets paid either way, heals up, and gets to be a free agent when he's healthy. New team gets Garrett for fewer and lower picks. Browns get out of that colossal blunder of a deal and clear the deck. Unfortunately the Bills could not do this, though, cap wise.

This is the issue. Assuming Garrett is 100% determined to get out of CLE he will. The Browns should realize that, and start the auction now while every team in the league could be in a spot to bid with picks and money. Someone will get stupid. What will probably happen is the Browns get prideful and decide to show the player who is boss, dig in, have a holdout, and trade him midseason for much less than they would get now. IMO the most likely scenario is the Browns tell him they want to draft Carter, he waits to see if that happens, then they make Garrett the highest paid DL in league history. Browns are so screwed cap wise they might not be literally able to trade him. OR the price could be: take Watson or there's no deal.

agreed... I love the big guys as much as anyone, but big, strong, cheap and young is the way to go at G. T is a much more premier position. I always wonder... if you had a HOF, best guard of all time with elite measurables how much value would that add over the average solid NFL starting guard? Obviously whichever side that guard played on would be solid, but then I would think your other guard would be exploited by the D. great tackles can neutralize a great DE, and we've seen that happen in the league for years.

I wonder if part of it is how close Knox and Allen are, with Kincaid coming in as the guy who is going to take Knox's place when he and Allen are best buddies. Should that be it? Of course not and it probably isn't, but part of me wonders if there is a difficult dynamic there. Teams rarely have 2 top TEs at once, so this new guy is going to come in and push one of the QBs best buddies out of town. All I know is I was so excited on draft night to hear about how "whoever lets Allen get Kincaid deserves what they get..." and it's been basically a total dud

Bills OL is a real strength of the team and we are lucky for it. Many teams have terrible OL

Browns drafting Carter and keeping Garrett.

Imagine Carter and Garrett on the same DL.... Totally doable contract wise for 3-4 years too, with one guy paid and the other on a rookie deal.

I thought the Door Dash driver this weekend looked a lot like Mike Brown and this could explain it. I did tip him well.

Cleveland could be sitting in a great spot there.... If they trade Garrett they'll have a ton of extra picks. they could draft Carter in that scenario and get younger and cheaper at that spot and still have a star.

Favre had a pretty serious biceps injury when he was on the Jets too. Either way, I don't think either guy (Favre or Rodgers) really wanted to go to the Jets, regardless of what they say/said. They wanted out of GB and GB wanted to control where they went. GB even put it into the deal that if the Jets traded Favre to the Vikings they had to pay extra picks. Of course, releasing him ended that.

I was recently watching some old highlights of Bruce on YouTube, and man... I forgot how he just manhandled guys and rag dolled them on his way to crushing the QB It's a huge dropoff, but Mario Williams was the next best DE we've had.