Bleeding Bills Blue

Bad snap on a chipshot field goal at the end is the only reason they won that game... In fact - if you include the bills game, the cardinals have lost 3 games because they can't kick field goals. Well the original argument was - with Tyrod/Shady and Schwartz defense, we would've made the playoffs. Now its becoming clear that Tyrod is no good, or at the very least no better than orton. Last years 8-8 is worse than this years IMO. We had a cupcake schedule. We lost winnable games to jax, KC, and philly. Win those 3 and we're 11-5 and in a wildcard game. This year we dropped the dolphins and jets. Those 2 we really should have had - those teams aren't that good (or are just straight bad). Those 2 would have put us at 8-5 going into a winnable final 3. Play better in baltimore and ur 9-4. Steal 1 on the road in seattle and you're 10-3... My conclusion - we may have snuck in with marrone/orton/schwartz last year... but i don't think we would've made the playoffs this year regardless. Not sure if this is "defense of rex", or just looking at it realistically. We're not a top 10 team because we drop winnable games. Marrone's team's also dropped plenty of winnable games. Chargers, Texans games were both winnable. He blamed Manuel.

he can bring back rex... or eat the remaining 15 million and spend a bunch more on ANOTHER coach who might not win anything. The team doesn't bring in that many dollars that you can afford to just write off 15 million. Just the players cash out this year is about 158 million. Assuming the cap goes up - that means the shared revenue went up for this year. Each team gets a similar piece of the pie. You give up 38% of your home gate, and keep the rest. Not sure what the %s are for merchandise either. But either way - 5 million annually for 3 years? And then to top that off with another big check to another coach? I get it - he has money. But isn't the purpose of spending upwards of a billion on an NFL franchise is so that i make money annually...?

Know who currently has the best Bills record since Wade Phillips...? Rex Ryan.

Yeah - same with Schwartz. Anyone remember the time Schwartz challenged a fumble... that was returned for a TD? Oh yeah - at the time it was a penalty to challenge a non-reviewable play (all turnovers are reviewed so you can't challenge)... so instead of getting the ball back it was 6 the other way. I think they got a 15 yard penalty too. Dumb rule at the time - but still an absolutely idiotic move on his part.

Record wise... he's our best coach since Wade.

I don't think its necessarily 4-3 or 3-4. We have some solid 1-gap players, and are playing a 2-gap system. It's too run focused, and struggles to generate pass rushes on 1st and 2nd down.

Yeah - but he got up and gave him a nice butt tap and said "good hit"

Worked for some relatively big names... parcells and del rio for one. I'm sure most if not all of these guys have spoken rather highly of him. No one even know's what he makes right now...

Sure the RB coach for the #1 rated rushing offense back to back years. Absolutely no one will have any interest. Guy's worked under Del Rio, Parcells, Crennel, and Rex. Never been out of football, and interviewed for 2 HC jobs this past offseason.

I'm not going, but I'm planning on watching. I want to win. I always want to win. I'm going to Buffalo v Miami the week after, and even if we lose to cleveland I want to win.

I know college is a different breed... but 9 million? To get to coach games at the big house? Huge rivalries? Why would you want to leave to come to buffalo? Is 9 million not enough?

Agreed - he almost had that 3rd down pick. Jumped the route and ben couldn't drop it over him.

The options are limited, and they have a very good defense. He's not the #1 option, but he's a viable backup solution should Lynch look bad. Simien has been fine for them, but they are where they are because of their defense. Siemian is cheap... like really cheap. If there's a trade market for him, and they could plug in TT as the backup they'd have to consider it. I wouldn't see them moving on from Lynch after just 1 year, but they have to make a decision at some point.

I could see Denver or Arizona. Denver doesn't seem like a team willing to wait and see if Lynch can be the guy next year - they'd rather have a solid backup plan. Same goes for Arizona - sub par QB and O-line play is why they are where they are this year.

Belichick collects picks - the new CBA added a rookie wage scale so it's massively cheaper to get solid contributors on their first contracts. The comp picks he gets are further added to that, and he seems to target cap casualties often for players on 3rd deals. He'll extend players he likes a lot - but only at their perceived value to him. Not market value. Hogans value to them is a receiver with enough speed to blow the top off of a defense, but other discernible skills. Like hands and route running. He's also an a passionate, unselfish player, who plays teams without complaining. Sounds like a patriots player to me...

Russ has been here a long time. He was essentially acting as our owner (or in his best interests) for like 10 year prior to Ralph's passing. He then helped facilitate the sale to the Pegulas, and in turn demonstrated to them that he's a valuable component of the organization. IE - it was the coaches, the players, the GMs who were bad... not me. When are people going to get a grip and just realize this guy's a media leak, a know-it-all, and a snake?

Kim is an owner - I think she should have some input. But Brandon? The guy think's hes the smartest guy in the room and knows legit nothing about football.

They only have 8 picks this year - They have played the Kessler/Whitehurst browns, the Goff Rams, the Kaep 49ers, and Houston. They do a good job stopping the run, and have an offense that puts up points (5th in PPG - even including a shutout with their 3rd string qb). They're top 10 - but i wouldn't put them at top 5. PPG isn't the most reliable statistic to me.

Possibly a Rooney Rule - but Lynn did interview for 2 HC spots last offseason.

They currently have a bunch of guys who are not tied specifically to any scheme. They've had straight nose tackles like wilfork, and have rotated in more penetration style players like Kyle Williams. They tend to gameplan better than most team's at defense and are not dependent on scheme or deception. A guy might see 40 snaps one week and 15 the next, and he doesn't complain or say a word. Their defense currently isn't "great" - but they also don't have a bunch of high priced talent on that side of the ball. Good mix of young guys and older guys on cheaper 2nd/3rd contracts. D-line - Flowers, Brown, Long, Sheard, Valentine Lbs - Hightower, Roberts, McClellin, Van Noy DBs - Butler, Ryan, and Jones - with McCourtey and Chung in the back. No one there is like blowing you away - maybe hightower? But they liked what they saw in Butler and Roberts so much to jettison Revis and Collins. They got o-line help with a pick from trading away Chandler Jones. Now they have a good/great rotation of o-lineman after depth there previously was a weakness. They also aren't afraid to dump players who want too much money - mankins, collins, and jones come to mind. The value they got back wasn't amazing necessarily, but they don't have majorly bad contracts on their payroll so that flexibility lets them be competitive with the mid-tier free agents that they covet. They can also add big short-term contracts because of their cap management.

Hmm - Tampa and KC?

Almost like the guy leaking this information to the media isn't actually in charge... like maybe Russ Brandon...?

Goin got with Russ... doesn't it seem like a lot of stuff gets leaked to the media these days...? The last 20 years or so...?

Thats the problem - hes on all the calls - in all the meetings... and he has no business being there.

I think Mcdaniels goes there... Gets his QB to groom, a solid group of talent on defense. Could see them going after a Jeffrey type.