Bleeding Bills Blue

Hate Bortles delivery. He struggles because it takes forever to get the ball out.

no way - PLAYOFFS BABAY!!!!!!!!!

It's an overpay for sure - but it isn't the end of the world. His cap hit would be 15 in year 1, 16 in year 2 (the savings by releasing him are negligible), and like 10 in year 3 if we cut him - that we could split over years 3 and 4 most likely. As much as people hate it - its not that bad. If you think he can improve in year 3 under a new OC with a different playbook. Maybe pick up the pace a bit more... use our athletic RBs to create mismatches in the passing game. etc. Also it puts us at 20th in QB spending in the NFL. Ahead of mostly teams with draft picks - or cousins who isn't on there as he's a UFA again (but the second they franchise him again his number blows up).

That's why I'd focus on pre-snap reads, play action, and screen passes. Pittsburgh did a great job against us of hiding the blitz, and spying the QB. You have to beat this by getting hte ball outside fast with WR swings and bubble screens. Use their stunting ends against them. How hard is it to look over and see sammy with a 10 yard cushion, hold your hand up, and chuck it his way. If he breaks a tackle its an easy 10. If he starts cheating up to prevent this, you beat them over the top.

Because neither have any of these guys - http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/quarterback/

How do we get him to maintain that play level for all 16 though?

I posted their 3rd down conversion %, not their 3 and out %. Sorry for the confusion. My thing is - its pretty clear we struggle with the blitz - especially well disguised blitzes. So we need some hot plays to call to get the ball out in the flats quicker. This is like - not in the playbook for our offense though.

That was 2 over like 8 or 9 years. This is our next 2 - when we have holes all over the roster.

Now I'm going to sound like a TT superfan - but let me be clear. We could walk away and i wouldn't be heart-broken, and we could keep him and I wouldn't hate it. I'm just sort of blah with the whole situation. However that are some things that have concerned me about the G-RO offense. 1 - So little screen game (weve been blitzed a ton recently, and it would go a long way to have a few quick bubble screens to help push back against the blitz). I know Sammy is not 100%, but A.brown makes a living off those little quick hitters right off the snap. He makes you play closer so he can get behind you. Also - some of these are like glorified running plays... the stats count as passing numbers for the QBs, but it really is to just get a guy in space. 2 - very little under center offense (which i think makes for a more effective play action passing attack). The Shotgun PA's we run seem to be PA in name only. Nobody is biting on that - McCoy is often switching sides back there too throwing this off even more. 3 - too many formations (takes forever to get lined up), like no 2 minute offense because of that. Also lots of substitutions for specific personnel match These were all issues in San Francisco under Roman as well - (http://fansided.com/2013/11/14/49ers-o-coordinator-greg-roman-blames-self-passing-woes/). We brought in the coordinator and playbook of some of the worst passing offenses in the NFL - why are we surprised that it's continued? I don't know how much better or worse TT would be in a more conventional offense, but i do wonder if some of the issues above have contributed to the low passing numbers.

For all the talk about 3 and outs - we're 14th in the league in 3rd down conversion %. 22nd on defense.

Gross.

Right but if he played about as well as the previous year - he hits the open market and we're forced to franchise him. You can't let your starting QB walk if he's showed enough. This had as much to do with Gilmore as Tyrod. We needed the tag for Gilly.

We're a mediocre offense in general. We're a running team and struggle when we can't run. We don't have any quick hitting passing game, very little screen game (long developing TE/RB screens are the only i recall seeing). Those are little "free" yards a lot of QBs get for teams that can't run it as well. WR screens, RB screens, bubble screens, little drag and slant routes.

Yup. I seemed to remember shaq chasing his guys to the edge, and the edge lb is like steps behind him. It's gap discipline, and i don't think PB has it.

Is that enough to get it done? If he's passing physicals, I think the offers going to be pretty high. I don't think Jerry trades him to a team unless he gives the OK.

I'd like to add like... a bit more to our offense. I don't mind run-first/ground and pound, but occasionally we try to get too pretty with it.

What is the romo price though?

I dunno if they move him - he's a cheap backup QB, and those are important to teams with playoff aspirations. I suppose they'd consider it if the price was right as that is pretty much Daltons team.

Unfortunately i picked this - and he has all the leverage in the situation so unfortunately that means overpaying him. Wouldn't make him the first overpaid/underperformer on our team...

He has a full NTC - so i think hes out. If he's released (which i doubt they ever do)- he picks his landing spot.

I think it'd be pretty funny if they told him he was fired, and then by some miracle we get to the playoffs. Then they give him a mandate that he's definitely coming back.... then we get blown out by like 40 wildcard weekend. Total bills move.

Thought the same thing on another thread. I think i decided on knee... it's more likely to carry over into 2017 :-D.

I liked seeing some offset I-formation runs, misdirection. Get felton moving with a full head of steam.

I don't really think its a major drop off tbh. Moore's been there a while so he should be familiar with all the playbooks, coaching changes - etc. I think i go for his knees instead of his head. But that's me.

To be fair - the saints defense is still 27th in yards allowed and 30th in points allowed. I don't know if it was entirely Rob in that situation...