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I'd have liked to keep him. But we didn't have cap space at the time as we had franchised Glenn and added the 5th year for Gilmore. Not extending them earlier is why we didn't put a stronger tender on hogan, and why we didn't match the contract...

So we're the linebackers and pass rush though... we knew we were gonna be a running team.

PA in shotgun never works as well - the running back is always eyes up on pass protection so the connection doesn't always happen.

No i think Greg roman prefer's shotgun - he ran mostly shotgun at SF as well.

I dunno about that- i'd say maybe closer to a bortles draft than an EJ. There's no "cant miss" guys like winston/mariota/luck/RG3 - but the class is relatively deep and talented. The top 2 guys from last year wouldn't stand head and shoulders above this class either.

I tend to agree here - if you miss on "your QB" then take another shot next year - but pick guys that you like, and roll with it. It's not an EJ draft, and it doesn't seem to have a Luck either. Do your homework on all of them, and get your guy! There's always next year!

Ken Dorsey was still playing in 2008....

And then Marrone punted again...

Perhaps he learned a thing or two in his time riding coat tails. Clearly he didn't work on gameplans or installing the playbook.

Like tyrion on season 2 of thrones

Well - the players on Cleveland play for their next job. Speaking of - How about RG3 for next year? He could help us "rebuild"

Go to a few games a year - beers/food at the games... probably a couple thousand

Right - But we're in a tough spot NEEDING a QB is all I'm saying. We don't draft high enough to ensure we get our guy, and I'm not sure this is the best draft to get our guy. Gotta take shots, but i don't want to waste high picks on a project.

Eh - He was good not great. He was so bad that they ended up with the 1 overall pick for 2004. He picked it up for 2 years - but at that point they had to make a choice... They were wrong. He was 1st team all-pro his first year out of San Diego - and won a super bowl in New Orleans.

I agree - we need to walk away with this thinking we got our guy. If we have to trade up to get him then do it - but he'd better be freaking good. I don't want to trade up for a guy who has issues like Goff and Wentz.

It's tough to evaluate this early on without any workouts etc.- but there seems to be a pretty much growing contingent of Kizer/Trubinsky Watson/Mahomes/kaaya and everyone else Now there's no way were out at 10 - Likely only 2 go by pick 10 I'd say. Maybe Bears, and probably Jets. Concern of Cleveland jumping ahead of 10 and maybe taking Mahomes. But there are like 5 teams ahead of us who have worse QBs than we do. I figure if we walk from Tyrod, one of them probably has Tyrod and will go BPA. But you're in a pickle either way The guy you want may be gone, and you're going to be on the clock in like 10-15 minutes. You have to decide who you want if you stay pat, and who you target to trade down if that's the goal. It becomes a game of chicken too. Any of the teams with older qb's like New orleans or SD may move in there to snag one. And then there's Houston who's a QB away from being a pretty good team. So you may not want to trade down very far since they may consider moving up a couple picks to snag a watson or something. I just don't want to walk out of the draft with who we had like 4th or 5th best on our board - and have that guy walk in with the starting job.

We're back on the arguing about whether he's good or not. The thread implies we already dumped him - who's the new QB?!

Or if someone traded us something to make eating dead money worth it.

I dunno - does keeping Tyrod prohibit you from drafting your long-term answer? If there's the guy you really like at 10, you can absolutely pull the trigger. I mean look at what Philly did, they brought back bradford and signed daniels. Then traded up for Wentz. They purged almost all of their bad contracts in one year and are in much better shape to be competitive in the future. Don't say we won't because we haven't in the past, its a new owner and a GM who probably feel's he has a bit more freedom. I just hate the idea of going into the draft with no one... we don't pick high enough and i fear the guy we really want isn't there.

Problems with drafting your replacement - we have NO other option. We wouldn't have tyrod, and we'll have a gaping hole at the most important position. Of the first 6 picks - 5 would have to at least consider QBs. The Browns are the only that I'll say probably won't unless one of the dudes really steps up. Niners/Bears both need QBs. So in all likelihood 1 comes off the board there (maybe 1 snags Tyrod and thinks they can improve elsewhere). Next you have Jacksonville - who may fall in love with a Watson or Mahomes and try to sell tickets - but this could be a spot to trade up to. The Titans will want an impact player at 5, or to trade and get more picks (more bullets - more chances to hit). Either way the price to move from 10 to 4 or 5 is next year's first... 6th is the Jets - so that means another comes off the board. The next 3 are unlikely to take a QB - but that doesn't mean Houston, Cleveland, Chicago. But everyone knows we want one - so this will be where offers may come in to jump us. The rookie we get might be the 3rd or 4th off the board, and a massive overdraft. And we're getting excited for the 3rd or 4th best QB in a mediocre QB class...

When it was Olson and Childress- it's an old boys club - I want someone young When we interview someone young he isn't qualified... Well who is it then?!

Slight caveat to the "last in yards per game" stat. They had the fewest attempts in the league. They threw 629 times with a rookie QB and a bad line - to such studs like James Jones and Andre Holmes... Part of the purge of reggie mckenzie that actually made the team relevant again. I remember them being alright when Mcfadden was healthy. So many wasted... everything when you look at those teams though. Heyward-bey in the first. A first for Palmer - but no upgrades to the line. A first for Richard Seymour. Jamarcus! McClain! It's a brutal list. Mckenzie has been a revelation with bringing in talent to that team.

I'm the same with franks and eggs- i use sri racha for random things i want to add kick to and obviously chinese food. Been mixing it up with green sri racha too - its got a nice garlicky heat. Chili i usually like to do fresh jalapeno (or fresh whatever my friend had in his garden if its the fall) and Lousiana tiger sauce.

The mouth of the cholula bottle squirts out a ton more sauce too. Tabasco is like 8 shakes to 1 shake of Cholula. That stuff goes faaaast.

But who do you want instead?