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Yeah - we have no cap room need. And o-linemen get banged up all the time. Is he even injured? I hope he's on the active 45. Looks like they're preparing hodges in case he isn't.

The lions have the space so no worries there. The saints are a mess. If brees were to leave, i expect him to end up in pittsburgh or something. Build an NFL super team to try and beat brady We have to make the decision before we know who the new guy would be, free agency and the draft both occur after. Thats the tricky part.

I think there are a few available qb's who can function as that bridge beyond Tyrod should he not be the guy. Brees I believe is technically available. Same with Stafford. Cousins if you think he can be a franchise guy. Tannehill is likely cut. Bradford is available in that middle tier bridge. Alex Smith also has a nice potential out if they decide to roll with Mahomes. However, if any or all of them are available. Most of those teams are looking for new QBs, so the draft becomes harder to move in. Pittsburgh may be looking too if big ben retires.

What about the last game that Tyrod played? Played pretty well right? Maybe he can build off it. I don't claim to know or predict either way. But I'd love him to be good and ya know - help us win some games.

Wentz was a mechanical mess last year. If he improves that stuff he will be fine. He has tons of weapons now, and a bit more of a west coast offense to help him rack up stats. But a guy with a weird motion, who dropshis arm slot, throws off his back foot, and overthrows passes by 10-15 yards, will not be good in the NFL.

No - you just solely critique a player who gets the most criticism on this board. So... it's kind of played out. We've heard literally all of this before.

I think people have heard every argument about THIS player though.

I mean... he probably makes the 53 because of his draft position and it only being his 2nd year. At the same time - if he's not a gameday contributor it should be a bit of a red flag. Maybe once the bullets fly in the preseason he'll get back up to game speed?

I can say his speed threat allows you to run pistol read/triple options. We had a bunch of success in the redzone with this. You do have to account for him on those plays specifically.

Whats with all the Wentz love?

It's the same negative stuff though. We are where we are... he's the guy this year. Can you say truthfully what you want to see from him to decide he's the guy beyond this year? Could you even fathom him being the guy?

Was thinking the same thing, s--t or get off the pot. Docs say ur knee is good, so bring it. 4-3/3-4 its still football bro. Get out of your head and play!

I mean - our numbers aligned very closely on offense with what the niners did when they were in the playoffs ever year. They weren't great, and the QBs definitely had a more limited passing role, but the ground game was great, we scored points, and didn't turn it over. We just didn't have a top 5 defense. Or Top 10. Or Top 15?

I'm basically at the same point. I feel like even if he did all the things you want him to, you'd still want him to fail. Why? So you could be right. On an internet message board.

I think you need a good quarterback. The whole franchise designation is tough for me. A whole different discussion - Why has Rodgers won 1, but Eli manning has 2? Brees and the saints have been 7-9 4 out of 5 years. The patriots have the best QB in the league, so they're the best team in the league every year. But the Broncos won a super bowl with a shell of manning, the 49ers and Ravens both got there mostly on the strength of defense. Seattle is a perennial contender because of their defense. I think that you need to have an elite unit (offense or defense), and one good unit. You won't get far with a bad defense, or a bad offense. You also need to have some bounces go your way. Teams with more takeaways tend to go further than teams with fewer. Teams that turn it over less tend to do better than teams with more.

I don't think they're unreasonable... I just think its like - too late to have this argument? It was fine when we were like, deciding what we wanted to do at QB. But now that he's the guy, shouldn't you hope it just clicks? Shouldn't you want him to be good? If you don't think it will, thats fine. But he's going to be given every chance for it to click. Why would you root against him?

I believe you can also cut them and bring them back after week 1 on a new deal. You eat the dead money (split over 2 years), but davis and ducasse are negligible dead money anyway.

Maybe it's just me... but I'm kind of sick of the back and forth on Tyrod. It really doesn't matter too much what he was before, or "may" learn or "won't" learn. We're going to find out in what - a month? Just watch the show and we'll know. The debate has merits on both sides, and I'm pretty sure we've heard every argument imaginable. He doesn't throw with anticipation, he holds the ball, doesn't throw over the middle, doesn't hit receivers in stride or whatever. He also makes plays out of nothing, has a good arm, floats some nice deep passes, and has deep value as a runner and decoy in the option game. If he doesn't become the guy - we move on. If he does, hopefully we still draft someone. In the end, he's starting this year and is by far the best option available... so what are we arguing about?

right - its being perceived as though he's getting in their face like kirk cousins "YOU LIKE THAT?!" Per Joe B (who was actually there) http://www.wkbw.com/sports/bills/joe-b-7-buffalo-bills-camp-observations-day-10-8717 As he ran past reporters, he yelled, “Write about that!” Now, let’s get something straight, I don’t think you should be overly concerned about Taylor interacting with the media after a drive. I think it was more just a product of him being a little bit looser at practice and having fun with it, not in a malicious, taunting type of way. It was all a positive for the Bills to see Taylor operating with full confidence in the offense, and the results were the best they’ve seen yet.

I think he was joking when he said it...

But... that doesn't fit the narrative of the hot takes everyone is putting out there!

He's towing the company line - deflect anything about this.

Yeah - hes a unique slot guy. He's not super quick or fast by any means either. Just spaces the defense really well, and has enough juice out of his break to get open for a quick 5-10. Also large, so a load to take down and a red zone target. Really good hands too

31st in the league... i guess we could be a little worse. Yeah - its tough to speculate his loss without seeing how Jwilliams looks. Gillislee wasn't exactly lighting up the league before he came here, so i feel like you have to put it at least up in the air. I don't really like that Tolbert is being featured more than we expected, but hey... he's cheap, a good locker room guy, has good hands, is quicker than he looks, and has had some success in the past.