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Not many - and most of them don't come from spread attacks. Someone put this list together and its pretty damning. Taylors the only one on the entire list to go above 60% in the pros... and it wasn't even with the team who drafted him. 2010 John Skelton (5) 58.8 (64.4) 69/36 20 17 53.22010 Jonathon Crompton (5) 55.3 (58.3) 36/22 0 0 0.02010 Rusty Smith (6) 56.4 (57.3) 76/36 3 1 51.12010 Joe Webb (6) 59.1 (59.8) 37/25 51 4 57.9 *not now a QB in the NFL2011 Jake Locker (1) 54.0 (55.4) 53/35 30 23 57.52011 Colin Kaepernick (2) 58.2 (64.9) 82/24 57 47 59.92011 Ryan Mallett (3) 57.8 (64.7) 69/24 13 6 53.12011 Ricky Stanzi (5) 59.8 (64.1) 56/31 0 0 0.02011 Nathan Enderle (5) 54.6 (56.7) 74/60 0 0 0.02011 Tyrod Taylor (6) 57.2 (59.7) 44/20 22 8 66.02012 Ryan Lindley (6) 55.5 (53.0) 90/47 9 6 50.82012 BJ Coleman (7) 57.4 (60.9) 52/32 0 0 0.02013 BJ Daniels (7) 57.3 (56.9) 52/39 0 0 0.02014 Logan Thomas (4) 55.5 (56.5) 52/39 2 0 11.12014 Tom Savage (4) 56.8 (61.2) 37/19 2 0 52.62014 Garrett Gilbert (6) 58.7 (66.5) 49/45 0 0 0.02015 Trevor Siemian (7) 58.9 (58.2) 27/24 0 0 0.0

Yeah - its easy to throw to a receiver who is legit standing there who can come back and get the ball. Precision isn't as important. Geno Smith completed like 71% in his senior year, but if you watched the highlights they were all screens to Austin and Bailey.

The Tampa win was pretty good - Tyrod led a 4th quarter comeback (), and Tre White ripped the ball out and recovered the fumble to ice it. Oakland was a good win because literally everyone thought we were going to lose. They had just beaten KC on TNF and were looking to turn their season around. They came east and got beaten up - that win felt good.

Sure... if they were lined up with more than 5 seconds on the play clock... and Tyrod wasn't clapping repeatedly to get a snap.

Yeah - didn't totally hate Chan but feel he's overrated by a lot of people here. I feel like as the season wore on people kinda caught onto his gameplans. He also had a considerable number of stinker games for me to ever consider him a really great offensive coach. Good guy for getting a lot out of... not a lot. Hackett - run run pass punt. Next. Roman - great run concepts, but like a total lack of anything resembling a coherent structured offense. Too many penalties, late play calls, no motion, limiting. Lynn - worked with romans playbook, and in general did an alright job trying to clean up the 2 minute offense and the penalties. Rico - too many negative plays, and too cute. Daboll - ???????????

Either way - smith/kaep/taylor all have different strengths and weaknesses... and yet they all operated basically the same offense. Tight formations, out routes, hitch routes, nothing over the middle, read and run. Nothing over the middle, limit turnovers, sacks are better. Shotgun/pistol mostly, lot of read option and speed options. The 2 minute offense/playcalling issues were prevalent in San Fran too, so I think that's just who he is.

He had alex smith who's pretty accurate and it was still a bottom of the barrel passing offense.

Why should he? All it does is give him a massive amount of risk, and minimizes his reward. The issue always comes back to guaranteed money, and he wants more than what he's getting on 2 running back tags.

He'll probably go to new england...

Less than a 1st - hes cheap but only for 1 year. Bradford was affordable for 2 years and fetched a 1st out of desperation. Garroppollo is younger and they got a chance to try before they "buy" - and he only got a 2nd.

I mean the shoulder injury from college doesn't seem to be an issue. it's just the knee. He tore it in 2013, then again in 2014 - and missed 15 games this year with issues on the same knee. Not sure if it was torn again or what

I wouldn't hate it - but i would be irritated if/when he got hurt. He destroyed the saints week 1 in his only real action last year. 27/32 for 346 and 3 TDs.

I think Daboll's preferred QB will be one who doesn't suck. Like every qb he's been saddled with as a o-coordinator. Tyrod's on the same timetable as last year. If we sign someone in the first 3 days he's obviously gone. If we don't go hard at QBs, he's going to have to take a paycut. As for the spread - they have run a spread offense for years. Most college teams run it in one shape or form. There's that air-raid type that throws 50 times. There's urban meyer teams that barely throw at all. Those rich rodriguez/art briles combo teams. The lane kiffin RPO type spread. I doubt saban all of a sudden wants to throw it 70 times a game when he wins 13 games a year with a legit bad QB in hurts. He'll probably add more PA, and screens - now that it looks like hurts is out.

I mean - score was closer.. We had nothing going on offense, and the defense was getting routinely beat - both darby and gilmore.

Bomb to goodwin kept us in the game and we couldnt stop fitz

It wasn't much better on the other side of the ball

The dome issue is real for Brees IMO - over his career his comp% drops 5 points outdoors, the teams w-l record is about .500, YPA goes down. He's also thrown a lot more interceptions than brady.

True - they did lose a few talented players from 2016-2017, and Hurts is just... not a particularly good QB.

Gloves now are basically stick-um

That's an absurd waste of time preparation. The receivers only ran like 3 routes - what were all the plays?!

He was having the team prep somewhere like 50-60 plays for each game. I'm all for game-planning and putting new stuff in for an opponent, but how many trap and power runs do you have? Can't you just change the formations?

Mariota is a young Tyrod Taylor imo. He struggles a bit as a rhythm passer, but hes not as elusive in the pocket and sails a lot of throws to the outside. Guy needs a lot of work. They added a ton of weapons - he has 2 good backs, investment in the o-line. Rishard matthews, decker, corey davis, delanie walker, demarco murray and Derrick henry. And they sucked on offense.

To be fair - he never really had a good passing game. He got canned because his game management skills were crap. If we got the ball down 3 with 2 minutes and no timeouts... there was a 0 percent chance of even tying it.

Yeah - it was the same with alex smith, and with CK. Im not sure what it would have looked like with someone like Brady... but I imagine if he had goff, wentz, bortles, whomever - he'd still run a ton of pistol, read-option/triple-option stuff and have his QB taking off.

Roman was not without his issues. Even in San Francisco he wore out his welcome. The passing attack is just too basic - it results in a lot of sacks and is designed for scramblers. A lot of verticals, hitches, out routes. Safe stuff that doesn't result in picks. If the reads aren't there you are supposed to just take off running and avoid turnovers. My big problem with him was the lack of a 2 minute offense. That and it taking like 30 seconds to get a play call in so there was never any pre-snap motion, hard counts, and we'd get penalties.