Bleeding Bills Blue

They were missing ford and bosa in a game like this. Same in those games against Seattle and Green bay. Rushing the QB is one thing, but rush discipline is another. Allen was maneuvering all night into open spaces and buying time. He broke contain to the sidelines multiple times as well.

People tend to follow shifting lines.

There were plenty of throws short of the sticks. Diggs averaged 9.2 yards per catch. Few targets for RBs. A shovel pass!

Yeah, he was fully prepared for that ball to go to Beasely and he was ready to make a tackle before the sticks, and it just went right over his head.

I think they realize too that they're just going to have to score. Running would be great, but you only get the ball so many times, and you need to score.

I do think buffalo has given up a considerable amount of garbage time points (and yards). Jets week 1 when down 17 scored a TD with 30 seconds left. Raiders down 14 scored with under 2 minutes left (huge PI on that drive). Didn't get onside kick. Seattle scored down 17 with under 2 minutes left. 49ers obviously. Chargers didn't score but added like 80 yards to their team total in teh last minute down 10.

They're a bit like buffalo in that they flipped from being a run first play defense team to a top 10 offense. But while buffalos defense seems to have improved in recent weeks, the titans may have somehow gotten worse. No pass rush at all, still a historically bad 3rd down defense. Their offense is legit, and they won't turn it over 3 times very often (like they did against cleveland). A cleaner game against tennessee would be a great game either way - I do think our Bills would want to prove that they're capable of beating them.

I'm sure we have a backup plan for kicker, but that was so a 15 yard penalty to me. 54 yarder - 15 is a 39 yarder. Even if Carpenter couldn't get back out there I'd feel better about a punter having to make an attempt from 39.

It was carpenter. Right before half - he jumped Offside on the FG attempt. And ran him over. They called Offside but no unneccesary roughness for some reason. Buffalo had to snap it and spike it, since carpenter was hurt on the play. He then missed the FG.

He's not human...

The intention of downing it in the endzone. Then kneel dude... thats such an absolute garbage call. Mental lapses in like 99% of situations will come back to bite you, but for some reason they got a pass.

I mean - the patriots had 2 ST TDs in that one in the first half. They basically just ran the ball the rest of the game - 23 total pass plays and i imagine many of them being quick hitters. Not exactly a game bosa can influence quite as much.

They did make plays in the red zone though I'd give them that. But 400 something yards is a lot. And it felt like between the 20s they were moving the ball at will.

Let me guess - they're white QBs who run.

They've scored more than 21 points, 4 times this year. They've allowed 21 points or more 9 times this year. Gotta be close to dead last in turnover diff. They lost to the chiefs by 27 the first meeting, to the raiders by 25, the saints by 28, the bucs by 18. They're a worse version of the bills from last year. A worse rush defense, and a worse QB being the big 2 notables.

Am I the only one who finds SF vastly overrated? Lost 3 of their last 4. 5-6 on the year. They are not a particularly strong rushing attack, even though everyone seems to act like they are. They get sherman back - still missing Bosa/Ford. They get samuel/mostert back - still missing Jimmy G and Kittle. They're 3-0 if they get more than 3 takeaways, and 2-6 if they don't. They've had some good yardage weeks defensively , but those are - Jets, Eagles, Patriots (cam's post covid disaster), Giants, Saints (half the game with Winston). They seem to stop the run fairly well. I just don't get why they flipped from injured wash year, to playoff caliber favorites in 1 game.

Shanahan vs Shurmur is a fairly big difference to me. Shanahan is clever in the types of motion, and they have a non-traditional run game.

I came away feeling like they could have lost that game by 30. They are just incapable of stringing together drives consistently. One incompletion and the drive's basically over.

I thought he made a nice play on the keenan allen TD - was a really nice throw by herbert though.

Honestly they rushed what 6? 7? they also had a spy... this was just a terrible play call. I don't mind bringing a little extra pressure... a sack ends it. But 6 or 7 or whatever guys? Are you insane? You really should also play zone, and you should play deep. 20 yards over the middle? even 25... that leaves them with a quick spike and one shot at the end zone. This is a lot like the situation buffalo faced with Murray - but Carr isn't nearly as athletic.

The injuries and other stuff definitely hurt them. I also think the like Mike Martz/Adam Gase style of pass happy offense isn't an ideal offense for most QBs.

Talk less... smile more. 😃

As long as he continues to tackle well, and play the downhill violent game he has played. He will be on the field a fair amount.

This is a bills message board - we're all friends here (for the most part anyway). This isn't twitter... let it go.

I thought he played fine last week without brown. Week 4 he was definitely affected... when the guy running browns route dropped a first down and gave it to the other team. Lines been shuffling all year and he's having by far his best season of his career.