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I also Your tactic is to wait for a great play and post to confirm that you are right about Allen. I think your belief is that he shouldn't be critiqued and should just be supported, whilst you often critique other teams QBs (Jackson etc) as being overrated. This tends to lose my belief in what you say. It comes across that you view things very much as black and white. Supporters vs haters. I think 1.the difference with me is that I don't need to be proved right or wrong. We all thi k we are right but I'd like to be wrong about Allen actually. 2.remember a single great play does not mean that he will be great.

It all depends how you view Allen. For me it buys into the fact that he's inconsistent. I thought the dallas game he was more consistent in his play. If he plays a difficult defense and makes a poor throw people might look and find reasons as to why it was a bad throw. These things would be right, it's not always totally on him, if the line collapses for example. I suppose I'm waiting to be proved wrong about his inconsistency. That's probably why every bad throw feels like it says something defining about him.

Allen was poor to start the game. I am not wrong with that. You are entitled to your opinion but don't think that I am too concerned with your opinion of my posts.

Yeah what I was meaning has got lost after a few posts. I was talking about swapping the two QBs who played the game, Allen and Brady. My point was to highlight how important the QB position is and that even though the defence sucked the consistency of the QB position - hitting the right receiver, getting the ball out just at the right time matters pretty much above everything. I was cringing when people were overdoing brady's decline as I was concerned he would show up. Its also the 'ice in the veins' QB point someone else made.

Haha, I said imagine 10 more completions from allen in the game, what a difference it would make.. So I was really talking about incompletions but when I look at the stat line I would amend that. 13/26, another good few completions would of made a difference, particularly the knox td throw. 10 is a bit much granted.

Lol I think the 10 throws against the Pats is aimed at me. ?

Allen has presence and maybe the 'it' factor you mention but to be fair he wasn't fearless to start the Pats game, that was part of the problem.

I've heard people put down Mahomes, Jackson and Watson yet mostly big up Allen. Funny

Kelce looks like he's a p****.

Hm. Then inaccurate throws will effect our offence more than others?

Which 4th and 1 transplantsbillsfan, the last play of the game?

Ok thanks for clarifying that.

Yes of course. Drops don't help. The ball needs to be positioned well for the receivers though also. The low pass to knox against the Pats I would put more on allen even though it could of been caught, so there is a subjective line there. With Allen there is some inaccuracy at times. There have been drops though. l'm looking at the drops list and not seeing a black and white correlation between drops and doing badly. Bills on 22, pats on 21, SF on 19 drops. Atlanta with only 4 drops all season and they are not doing very well. Trubisky, fitzpatrick and Brady all high on drops so they should also get a break for that.

I do think that. Painful to say but Brady on the bills yesterday and we win I think. Just better at hitting the open plays.

Up the sass jacrispy. We need more sass.

The mire!

I picked up the game late and was watching it up until when we got the fumble. My stream froze and I reloaded it, went a bit too far and saw haush was lining up for the field goal. I felt really disappointed. Got to punish them and make them pay for those mistakes.

That's why you need 7 when you create the early fumble. I would of liked to see a fake field goal on the early drive after the fumble.

Mahomes is the definition of fearless.

Mahomes so accurate

After yesterday's game I wonder if they think to upgrade both lines as a priority in the off season. Mcd mentioned winning the line of scrimmage aftergame.

He's just not dropping it in the bucket when the play is there and that is concerning. He called it "jitters", but you never want to hear your franchise QB say they have "the jitters"... they are supposed to be in the zone and have ice water in their veins. Although I love him for it, this is what I thought. Sometimes he plays like he's got ice in his veins, normally the more the game goes on but I've got the same concerns

I'd love hester to return a punt in jeans.

Just seen this. Week 4 Allen was very poor and yesterday as the game went on he was better than that time against the patriots, and he threw no picks. I agreed in another post that there is some progress in regards to that. On certain plays we can see the 'ceiling' point, usually really tough throws and moments like the TD to brown when he gets hit. Great plays. I also agree with Allen's own words that he almost needed to have a game like week 4, to make those mistakes and learn. You know what tho, week 4 was very bad but something about those picks dont bother me personally as much as early in yesterday's game. Problem I've got, the 'basement' I'm mentioning, reared it's head again (from the first pats game) yesterday.. Its when he looks like he cannot play the position for a few series. You know that thing that tends to happen with him when he is way off, missing short throws to an open Beasley and low to knox. Before you know it (playcalling probably doesn't help Hugely) the one throw is incomplete and we are 3 and out. Its JUST HOW OFF HE IS HERE. When people post here 'come on josh', '' you got to make that play josh', 'Geez josh, that's a simple nfl throw'..that is his basement, it just rears its head from time to time and those posters are RIGHT.

Well put. If he gets the consistent touch on his throws is the way I would put it but I'm probably more glass half empty than full. ? It's fair to say that, he's a 'project QB' .