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Do you think its possible that there may be a happy medium between throwing 12 picks in 130 pass attempts and what tyrod used to do?

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No chance I would support the new team, wherever they went. I would become a Browns fan based on geography and the fact that Im well conditioned for misery. Also nobody could accuse me of being a bandwagoner.

There is no way they let Allen sit another year. This is Allens year to learn and observe. Next season he will go into camp as the ingrained stater and get all the 1st team reps so that we can truly evaluate him. You cant look at Rodgers and say "Hey it worked for him!". That situation in GB was very unique in that they had a HOF QB that was still competitive so there was no need to put Rodgers in.

You forgot Mike Tolbert from last season

Being in shotgun certainly helps but either way, youve gotta be able to diagnose a defense. 2 back sets are great but they also limit your WR options and ability to play downfield (especially if you have a TE to protect which it seems like we need unfortunately). Itd be nice to use the RB leak out passes to get Josh a rythem and he has shown he can hit that pass effectively enough. But hes gotta be able to see a blitzer, and get the ball to the hot read ASAP.

I disagree with this a bit. Its using the play call but it involves a lot more of reading the defense. When you get under center you have to identify the likely weaknesses in the defense and try to determine possible blitzes BEFORE the snap. That way, you have an idea on how to execute the play call, or change it, by exploiting what the defense is giving you. The play call can only get you so far. The QB has to diagnose the defense before the snap and react based on their educated guess after the snap. Thats what makes Rodgers and Brees better than most. They dont just blindly execute play calls.

Unfortunately this is about right, and was why a lot of fans and experts a like thought he far from a finished product and should have taken Rosen. I think he has looked ok, quite good against the Vikings but this week his flaws were on full display. But, it snows in Buffalo so...

Tie are actually pretty fun. They make playoff scenarios a lot more interesting and sometimes a tie is the right result. Im a big Premier League fan and I have seen the way of the tie. I would like more ties in American sports, what is the issue with them?

Yes, one time he had a deep ball dropped. Several others have been off target or underthrown. That said I was replying in reference to someone that asked " Isn't that the 1 thing he was supposed to have?????" to which the answer is no, he never showed he was a good deep ball thrower in college. He CAN do it but he is inaccurate on those throw, like his other throws. Doesnt mean he will never hit one.

He also wasnt good at hitting the deep ball in college, he just had a strong arm.

That was a major blunder by the refs and Id bet their getting told they were wrong by the league. Every rules expert said that it was clearly a forward pass. Not sure how hte refs screwed that up honestly.

1) NP was their first choice clearly but they obviously know that injuries can happen on any play, at any time. Knowing that hey still traded AJ which meant that if NP had to come out for any reason, whether its the first play of the first game or later, they were OK with Josh coming off the bench. You say reluctantly like you know something when its pure speculation on your part. 2) Sure having a good O-line and more talented WRs would certainly help but that is not the ONLY way to learn. QBs have had success by being thrown in the deep end and some QBs have failed like that. Some QBs have had much better situations and still failed. There is no fool proof approach. What I know is that Josh is gonna learn a heck of a lot more playing than he would watch NP. There is virtually no benefit to having him sit behind NP. 3: "Don't give me the bs about preseason not counting and guys don't try blah blah blah." Youre very assumptive in your post. Im not gonna give you that but that Cincy game wasnt exactly the ideal situation for Josh. The O-line was rotated around on every single drive and I dont think Dawkins played at all, neither did McCoy. My main point is lets give this team 3-4 games before the sweeping generalizations come out. Losing Richie and Wood was always going to be tough to replace but lets see how the team responds at home with Josh at QB. The Baltimore game was also dictated a lot by how the defense played. We were immediately behind and playing catch up all game. I do not expect the defense to let in 40 point a game. A lot can change game to game. it doesnt have to be all doom and gloom after one bad loss.

This. This board has been awful to read lately because everyone is POSITIVE that the Bills 1) Didnt want to start Josh this early 2) are doomed to go 0-16 3) are going to ruin Josh. All of this after 1 single game in which Josh barely played. The Bills brass wouldnt have traded McCarron if they werent comfortable with Josh playing this early. The O-line did not look good in game one but one bad loss doesnt define a season. A couple years ago we started out 0-2 and looked terrible before rattling off 4 straight wins. I remember in 2011 we beat the Chiefs in week one 41-7. The Chiefs finished with a better record than us. It is ridiculous to make sweeping generalizations about an entire season and condemn a front off after one (ONE!!!) game. There is evidence on both sides of the "Can you ruin a young QB by playing him too early" debate. IMO if comes down to mental fortitude. Josh has shown he has that so I for one am all in favor of this and very much looking forward to the rest of the season and next season.

Im of the opinion that they expected, or at least were quite comfortable, with Allen playing significant time this season. Otherwise you would never have traded McCarron and left Allen as the only back up. Aside from incompetence injury would have forced Allen on the field, they must have thought of that. TBD is positive that the staff wanted him to sit the entire season but I think they were OK with what they saw from Allen in preseason. Im excited for this Sunday.

At least we did something. And he knows some of the concepts since he went through camp but if he couldnt beat out anyone on the roster then, what does that say for him?

I keep seeing that "The plan was to sit him the whole season" being posted here. If that truly was the plan, that they didnt want Josh to see the field for 10-16 weeks then why would they have traded McCarron. Even if you thought Peterman would be competent, you always have the risk of serious injury. They MUST have felt comfortable enough with Josh being a back-up role. I doubt they anticipated that he would be forced to start by NP being a disaster but they nonetheless the knew him seeing significant time was a very real possibility the second they traded away AJ. Unless they planned to bring in a vet if NP went down, and in that case they would be doing that now.

I really have no faith in McBeane to evaluate QB talent at all. First they agreed that Peterman was ready to start against the Chargers last year and actually gave the team a better chance to win over TT. That decision made them look foolish. Then they trade TT and bring in McCarron, move up and draft "their guy" Josh Allen. All through preseason they rotated to give everyone a chance and they come out believing that Nate was again the best guy for the job and so much so that they trade McCarron. Then Nate goes out there and embarrasses them again. How in the hell could they start him again?? What has Nate Peterman ever done and how does he keep convincing these coaches that hes ready to go? Is he just a practice hero? They have to start Allen because nobody else on the team can possibly have a shred of confidence in Peterman and starting him would signal to every player that they are not committed to winning football games

Only when Fergy has figured out who is good or not can we play. Until then its all preseason.

I moved out there in 2015 (have since moved back to Rochester) but it was my home away from home. I met my fiance there and many friends. The key thing about it is that the games are at 10 am so you usually only get the diehard fans that come every week and you get to know everyone. Also there is not food so therefore no tables of people sitting around, everyone is standing for the most part and it makes it a much better environment.

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What if the games were played in reverse order, or if our game took a little longer and we won AFTER the Bengals game? Then would the drought be over? Do you just want a win and youre in scenario? Because you seem to be placing a lot of weight on the fact that the Bengals went longer than ours did, which seems dumb.

I appreciate Astro, and always read them but he is certainly a glass half full guy and I trust Joe B, Fairburn, etc more. They go to every practice and watch some tape so they have full context. I remember during EJs time Astro was very kind to EJ all while the media was crushing him every practice. This forum had many people convinced that the media had an agenda against EJ and that Astro was reporting the real EJ. Well....we all know what happened.