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Mock Draft Game -- January Edition, Round 1
D521646 replied to Astrobot's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
The question really is, how many teams are so desparate that they will pull the trigger on a weak QB class in the first round? I see the following that could possibly be looking for QB first. 1. Buffalo 2. KC. 3. Jags. 4. Cleveland 5. Philly 6. Cards. 7. Jets. 8. Titans. From this group, all these teams have important needs elsewhere and the wisdom of reaching for a QB in a weak class with their top pick is only a real viable option for Buffalo, KC, Cardinals, and possibly Philly, Jags and the Jets, however they have bigger issues to tend with. So then, if I'm Buddy Nix I know there will be a decent enough crop of QB's available in the 2nd and even 3rd rounds, and if it were me, I take the best impact player as my number 8 pick and roll the dice in the 2nd. Even if there's a run on QB's in the first and assuming that 4 of the teams listed choose a QB in the first, there will still be a good crop to choose from (And by good I mean no one is any better or worse than anyone else) in the 2nd, and 3rd rounds. That all said, I say we roll the dice and pick up an impact player in the first, with high ceiling potential such as C. Patterson, WR Ten. This guy fills a couple of needs, WR, KR, PR, and RB. Only kid in NCAA history to score TD's all four ways last year. I didn't see him on the OP's list. Tim- -
Cordarrelle Patterson - WR - Tennessee
D521646 replied to Buffalo Barbarian's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
This is what NFL.com mock experts say about him. Linky: http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/cordarrelle-patterson?id=2540145 Tim- -
Don Banks of CNNSI has his 1st Mock Draft
D521646 replied to 26CornerBlitz's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
NNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Please no on Glennon -
My thoughts are that they don't get any takers. The Jets were second in pass defense last year without him, he's coming off a torn ACL and he's no AP. My guess they'll take whatever they can get for him as unloading him is their new GM's primary concern. In fact my suspicion was that Woody hired the guy with the best plan to get his cap situation back in order, and trading revis was top of the list. The Jets have 3/4 players making 10m (I think) and no other team has that. The Jets (although they might not admit it) are in serious rebuilding mode. This whole retooling nonesense is crap and the Jets fans that aren't homers understand it. If it were me, I'd offer a 3rd (and that's a stretch) and only if I could get at least a 3 year deal out of him for no more than 35 million, but preferably 30 million. Oh and he would have to pass a physical... Well duh.. LOL Tim-
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Cordarrelle Patterson - WR - Tennessee
D521646 replied to Buffalo Barbarian's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I see him off the board by pick 22 in most mocks and depending on who you look at he's the first or second WR off the board. I've only seen highlights of him so I trust those that saw him more in games, but man when he catches the ball the kid can run like the wind, and besides depending on McLovin we will need a good return guy of which this kid is the man! 8th pick? I dunno I think we need BPA and it may not be a QB at 8, but he sure desreves a look, IMO. Tim- -
Cordarrelle Patterson - WR - Tennessee
D521646 replied to Buffalo Barbarian's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Cordarrelle Patterson - WR - Tennessee
D521646 replied to Buffalo Barbarian's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
This kid IMO is the Best WR in the draft. If we don't reach on a QB at #8 I say we nab this kid. This kid is legit! Thoughts? Tim- -
How best to use Spiller and Jackson?
D521646 replied to WhitewalkerInPhilly's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Agreed. Thinking back I was always questioning Chan and his use of FJ/CJ. I liked Chan but he lost me this year with his abysmal scheming on Offense. I like and echo the sentiments you're suggesting above, and would add that essentially the slotback does exactly all of those things. Tim- -
How best to use Spiller and Jackson?
D521646 replied to WhitewalkerInPhilly's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Well for me, Freddie is the perfect slotback: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slotback Use a two back, maybe even three back set with two TE's from time to time. From here you have many options. Of course Freddie can also be the RB when Spiller is tired, but if I were in charge he'd be the American equivalent of a Canadian Slotback without the illegal motion of course. Tim- -
Senior Bowl Practice & Game Thread
D521646 replied to Bangarang's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Ok first thing we need to do is block out anything Mayock says about prospects. Trust your eyes! Tim- -
What is your "perfect" draft scenario?
D521646 replied to rayray808's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Ok, looking at the teams ahead of us, and the one's behind us, it could go a lot of different ways, but just to play here goes. Trade the 8th pick move down to mid first, trade a 7th and a 3rd to move into the late first or early second. Mid first - Millner, Teo/Ogletre, Nassib Late first - Teo/Ogletre, Nassib Early second - Nassib Our 2nd - Best LB on the board, could be any number of guys. From there? Who the hell knows.. LOL Tim- -
Mock drafts, experts, and TBD - My thoughts
D521646 replied to D521646's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
One thing I've noticed about watching college film is that even if the highlights are great, deep passes caught in stride etc.. Something that needs to be paid close attention to is just how open these guys are when the ball is released from the QB. Although that might happen once or twice a season in the NFL, the fact is that when you throw the ball deep in the NFL, the open part is a step, maybe two. If you're rating a guy on his ability to throw the deep ball, this one single variable is extrememly important. The film I've seen on Nassib (And I like the kid don't get me wrong) is his successful deep balls were all what amounts to a gimmes at an NFL level. The kind where announcers say before he throws the ball, "and wide open down the field is..." Someone missed an assignment type deal. In college, a lot of these down field deep passes are attributed to guys missing assignments, and it happens by a factor of a 100 compared to the NFL. Moral of the story? A deep ball looks nice, but it is reminiscent of a deep ball one might expect to see completed at the NFL level? Is the timing the same? Tim- -
Ryan Nassib - QB - Syracuse
D521646 replied to BuffaloBillsForever's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
How do you, or anyone else for that matter, quantify, value, exactly? Tim- -
Mock drafts, experts, and TBD - My thoughts
D521646 replied to D521646's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
A better job yes, but this isn't wat I'm arguing. I'm saying that you, Bufcomments are in no way more qualified to know what and where we pick that guys should be. A lot of people are saying that Nassib would be a major reach at #8, but why do they say that? If you take analytics into account, he should be the Bills FIRST CHOICE! Why you ask? He knows the coaching staff, knows the offense we (expect to run) run, and has all the tools, sans some accuracy questions past 40 yards. He's tall enough for an NFL QB (not that this matters too much these days), he's athletic, strong arm, good football awareness, I mean, why NOT take him over any other QB in the draft? Is it a sure bet? Nope, but considering all the QB's available, can you make a better case for anyone else? Tim- -
Since it's MLK day and I'm slow at work, and all this talk about who we should take at #8, or whether we trade down/up, whether Nix is a terrible GM, and if we took this guy over that guy etc.. etc.. Just seems that there really isn't any evidence AT ALL that selecting a player and where is an exact science, heck, I've come to the conclusion that it isn't a science at all. No revelation to some of the more tenured posters here at TBD I'm sure, but looking back at what the experts were saying then, and what the experts here at TBD are saying now is just plain silly and a waste of good bandwidth. I looked back at what experts were saying mocking the draft, and I can't help but say that the term "mock" is appriopriate when discussing the issue. Every player's success based on their selection to any team is directly related to the system they were drafted into, the circumstances and dynamics associated with their position, and the coaches and support they receive. It's really all it boils down to. Even as we look and say well heck we should have taken Wilson over TJ Graham, or JJ Watt or whomever blah blah, there's no gaurantee that Wilson or (insert player you wished we would have had over the player we shouldn't have gotten) whatever would have done what they did if the situation was different. Granted, we can say that Wilson and JJ Watt in hindsight would have flourished in any system, but I have come to the realization that GM's can't know this for sure, that picking your players in the draft is what amounts to a crap shoot, and no amount of analytics is going to matter as the variables are too many, and unquantifiable. I know we're going to get a million mock drafts leading into April, but I don't put a lot of stock in the experts, or for that matter, the resident experts advice. In 2010 CJ Spiller was a first round selection on most experts draft boards, but where he ended up was mixed. No one had Cj going to the Bills, and the first mention was Jacksonville taking him (on average) at pick 14, BUT only if (Insert player here) such and such wasn't available. We grabbed him and even right up until this year, not a lot of people (TBD included) knew what we had. Why? Because of Fred Jackson, but even if we didn't grab him, and say he went to the Jags instead, the general consensus was that he'd back up (spill) MJD, giving him restpites when needed. Point is that our GM and the Powers that be are going to select the best player they think they have at whatever pick, and second guessing them is tantamount to worthless commentary. Tim-
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Obama takes no action on gun control;
D521646 replied to Keukasmallies's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Truth is that most at that time did NOT support the rebellion, it wasn't until Lexington that people started to believe. Tim- -
Obama takes no action on gun control;
D521646 replied to Keukasmallies's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Ya know those backwards gun toting Afghanistanians have fended off two world powers in the last 30 years. They don't have tanks or cannon either, just Ak 47's and a few rocket propelled grendades, but yet, both Russia, and now the US are leaving their country. Sure Russia and the US inflicted great pain to the those nasty despots, but they STILL have their country. Last time I checked, the US was much larger, provided much more cover, and we're free to associate. If the US military had the stomach for armed assault on its own people, I suspect it wouldn't last too long, and I can assure you that it wouldn't last anywhere near as long as Iraq or Afghanistan. You don't have to win an all out head to head rebellion, you just need to make a point, scramble a few eggs and you'll be eating your omlet in no time. Tim- -
Obama takes no action on gun control;
D521646 replied to Keukasmallies's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
I don't believe it's retroactive, so the law applies to new gun ownership, however, I don't know how a law enforcement officer would know the difference? All I say is from my cold dead hands will I give up my right to protect my family. Tim- -
When was the last time that things were good?
D521646 replied to Juror#8's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
I'd just like to add that in addition to the erosion of the family unit (all families generally) there doesn't seem to be any shame anymore. It seems as though no act or action is shameful? Although liberals will argue that morality is subjective, and to some extent perhaps they're right, however it is my firm opinion that in the rush to destroy religion in western societies, the purveyors of anti-religious tenants forgot one major thing. They forgot that, without a foundation of objective truth, commonly shared among society members, there effectively is no truth. We offset the subjective (in theory) with the use of common law; turning the subjective into the incontrovertible truth, and it makes us all feel like we're doing it the right way, indifferent to any higher authority. Common law has become just that. Things we all agree on, things most of us agree on, and things some of us agree on. Enter the lack of shame, and dwindling of morality in society and we now have things we all agree on, and just things some of us agree on. Things most of us agree on, is no longer a marker for authority. We have within us a society that 50% of the people think the other 50% are completely nutz, and vice-versa. Because everyone has a plural voice at the table, effectively no one can be heard. Philosophical gobbily goop aside, you can't pin-point what it is, but you know it when you see it. In statistical analysis when this occurs we look for correlations. Although not evidence of casue, correlates lead us in the right direction in search of the truth. The family is breaking apart, that much is certain. The leading edge on what is shameful has ben virtually wiped away from the sand, and generally as a society, I don't see how we can get it back without a great deal of pain and sorrow. When I speak with liberals (friends included) they always seem to argue from the point of the exceptional. Rather, an issue, regardless of what it is, seems worthy of repair even if the catalyst for change is an exceptional circumstance. That is to say that it's not the general rule that matters to liberals, it almost always is the exception to the rule that is required to make the general rule, now not the rule. Almost all liberal legislation from the 20's til now has been based on an exceptional circumstance that required the change in direction. I agrue that, from a philosophical standpoint, an exception to the rule should never become the rule. IN stats analytics, exceptions are weighted, BUT only if they appear frequently enough, and ONLY if they are predicatable. I dunno, all I want is to die knowing that my kids will have a fighting chance at life, and at this point in my life I'm not nearly as confident as I was 20 years ago. Tim- -
Obama takes no action on gun control;
D521646 replied to Keukasmallies's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
This will be challenge by the end of the week in court. No way this stands a constitutional challenge, IMO. Tim- -
My "value" FA signings for 2013 and the Bills
D521646 replied to D521646's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Yeah he'd be cheap, but he drops a lot of balls, and his blocking in both run and pass protection is average at best. No thanks, IMO Tim- -
My "value" FA signings for 2013 and the Bills
D521646 replied to D521646's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Thank you, yes, although I thought that much was obvious, but re-reading my post I can see how some might have been misled by my statement. Tim- -
My "value" FA signings for 2013 and the Bills
D521646 replied to D521646's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I can live with that. Tim- -
My "value" FA signings for 2013 and the Bills
D521646 replied to D521646's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I agree I am going on nothing as to scheme but 4/3 4/6 is my assumption. That said, if not Osi, then Seymore wouldn't be abad option either, even though he's on the backside of his career. Flacco I agree but like I said, I don't see anyone else that I would want, certainly not Alex Smith, I'd rather keep Fitz if that's the case. Bowe might not come cheap agreed but he's worth SJ money for sure, and if that's the splash we make I'd be ok with it freeing up our draft order for LB's and QB's. Tim- Flacco no and I agree but I think he's a franchise type player, and worth the money. Bowe? Not sure, depends on the market, we certainly can't get Flacco and Bowe me thinks there's not enugh cap space, but one or the other should be priority. Osi is a if not them then him type of deal, but in all honesty I'd prefer a cover guy like Talib. Tim- -
Assuming we sign Byrd, and Keep Levitre, or tag Byrd and sign Levitre we need other help and we have cap space to boot so here goes. Daryl Smith (JAC) - OLB - Only played a couple of games last year but he could be had for a decent price, and if the price is right we should sign him. Aqib Talib (NE) - DB - Yes, off field issues aside, he seems to have grown up a bit with NE, and for 7, maybe 8 Million he would be a very nice addition to the Bills. Let's face it, a top notch DB isn't going to be there in the 3rd, or 4th round so we may need to sign one, release Williams, and Rogers, retain Mcklovin, and groom Brooks, and a 4th, or 5th Db in the draft. Joe Flacco (BAL) - QB - Release Fitz, (We know what he can and cannot do regardless of whether our new coaching staff does) keep TJ, and draft a QB in the first or second round. Pay Flacco what he wants, and hpe someone picks up Fitz, or take the cap hit, either way, dropping Fitz needs to happen. If we can't sign Flacco, I don't like any other FA option for QB. In this vien, we draft two QB's and sign TJ to run the show in 2013 until someone else is ready. Osi Umenyiora (NYG) - DE - Although I think we're in really good shape at DL, letting Moore and Merriman walk, giving Truop a shot (Again) and an improving Carrington, adding Osi for the right price would be a good move. he may not want to play here, but if he shows any interest I say we pursue him. Dwayne Bowe (KC) - DB wants out of KC and even with the Ried signing at HC, my bet is he walks away. he would instantly contend for WR#1 with Stevie, but the two would work well together and the Bills would have a legit 1, 2 at WR with Nelson and TJ, and Jones would round out our WR corpes. If we get Flacco, we will absolutely lure him in. Fred Davis (WAS) - TE - Yes, he was injured last year and didn't see the field much, but his 2011 season was very good. If we can sign him to a one year prove it deal we should. So the "plan" is to draft one, maybe two QB's, sign Flacco -OR- retain TJ Let Choice walk, and draft a RB in the later rounds. Draft two LB's, maybe three. Draft another DB in later rounds or add one in UDFA. If we can't sign a FA TE, then Lee and Dickerson will do, and hopefully one of them will have a greater role in the Moroone/Hacket scheme and breakout. I don't think we draft a TE in this draft. If we can't get Osi, then keeping Moore and or Merriman would work, we do not focus on drafting a DL in this years draft. I think keeping Levitre is a MUST, but we should still draft at least one more interior lineman in this years draft. If we can't get Bowe, then Amendola or similar could be had, and if we can't sign any FA WR's then we will need to draft one or two fairly high limiting our defensive needs at LB. Thoughts? Tim-