#34fan

Wow. That's a little low..... I thought we stopped putting people out there to get blasted by mods... It's a harmless animated conversation featuring a few jabs... I'm not hurt... -Is anybody hurt??? -We're just talking, here... E tu? Wow, you guys are shaaaady…. -I thought we were just talking for crying out loud.

Not fair... Your brain damage is evident at this point. You keep bringing up a point that I never made, in an argument about something that's not negotiable for me. I'm not excited about Palmer working with Allen. -IMO, he doesn't have the kind of experience that inspires confidence. Period. You could spread the reasons for that over a wide area... Do Palmer's lousy pro and college careers bother me? -Of course... But mostly because of his lack of league coaching experience... You could also look at other Jordan Alumni like Bortles, and Hackenberg… Again, -not inspiring confidence. Is Palmer better than nothing? -Maybe not. I'm not willing to grant him anything until I see September's product.

Yikes!..This isn't a post, -It's evidence of traumatic brain injury... Sounds like you had a helmet-to-helmet with no helmet.

You don't get it, do you? -You never had a point here. Neither did Doc, K-9, codered, or Tranny…. I'm not excited about Jordan Palmer working with my franchise rookie... I find his lack of coaching experience on any level, worrisome.

Oh no? See below: DUH! One JUNK comparison from a ridiculous assertion, -which I never made. A mantle of bull*** you clearly picked up when you said:: It's a bull**** point, since I never said you did. -What I did say was: I have long been a proponent of putting Reich on the payroll... You see the effect he's had as a coach in places like PHI, SDG, and now IND. -Taking a 1-5 team to the playoffs with a QB many thought was done. -Classic Reich comeback. OBD should have pursued him with more fervor. Bottom line: Jordan Palmer STILL does not have the coaching credentials I'd need to be happy about him working with my rookie. His marginal pro career is the only credential in a resume devoid of verified NFL coaching experience. To your assertion that he's helped Josh with mechanics, I can only say that Josh could have gone to any number of sources for that assistance. -Including YouTube! There are literally guys on the street that could have helped Josh with his mechanics. Until I see what we have in September, I'm not willing to credit Palmer with anything. IMO, Allen is too valuable not to have consistent, in-season, coaching and development. So good to have you in my life again, Tranny. -Do you mind if I shorten your handle?

I thought he looked much better than advertised today... More fluid than I anticipated. Could be worth risking a 4th or 5th.... Phish... Bengals... Bucs... Even the Lions... Teams with nothing to lose either way.

I find it best to ignore the insane... i.e. anyone who compares Jordan Palmer's coaching chops to those of Bill Belichick. I don't run away from a damn thing... I could use a mercy flush from all your bull****, though.

My Bull**** filter won't allow you to use things I never said to support your DOA argument. Bill Belichick started his coaching career as an assistant making 25 bucks a week. It was a real coaching job in the NFL. Something Palmer has yet to pull off. Because he's done wonders for Blake Bortles, Christian Hackenberg, and Sean Mannion. You just can't anchor your wretched argument, can you? -Not even by making up things I didn't say.

Who's nonsense? -Your nonsense? All I wanted was a coach who's actually coached somewhere before. -Someone with a point of reference besides their own terrible career.

Palmer giving himself the 'coach' handle is like you giving yourself the "Logic" handle. Anybody can totally say anything.

A football prodigy who took a $25 a week job assisting Ted Marchibroda on the Baltimore colts? Your arguments against honest work would be hilarious if they weren't so pitiful.

Oh do you, now? Exactly... Got a real Job, and accrued legit credentials. -Worked for FREE @ UB in order to build that resume. And again….Zac Taylor's credentials: As coach: Texas A&M (2008–2011) Graduate assistant Miami Dolphins (2012) Assistant quarterbacks coach Miami Dolphins (2013–2015) Quarterbacks coach Miami Dolphins (2015) Offensive coordinator & quarterbacks coach Cincinnati (2016) Are you really this bad, or do you enjoy making my points for me?

A 100% straw-man point considering no one said you needed to be. What I'd prefer, (for my 1st round QB) is someone with a track record of success coaching in the league. -However small. Get a job. -Assisting... Coaching... Something... Palmer's crap career is only relevant because it's his only professional credential... A fact that should worry those interested in Allen's development.

All that "person" ever did in college,or the the NFL was suck. it's not as personal as you imply. Never said you did. -But you want to, don't you?

Like comparing one of the most successful coaches of all time to someone who's never had a job in the NFL?

Yah. -And I'm pretty sure that comparing the two is absurd.

BB started by getting a real Job for an NFL team. -He wasn't some hack peddling his meager position knowledge as a 'side hustle'. I also prefer lawyers who've been in front of judges before. Shocking, I know.

Says the guy who compared Jordan palmer to Bill Belichick!

A homeless guy turned me on to a great cold remedy once. -Should he be my doctor? Jamarcus Russell? -The QB coach?

Tom House. -The successful pitcher turned Phd. who actually coached for a half-dozen professional organizations. Keep comparing apples to kumquats. Maybe I should be working with Allen.

And I don't see why a failed QB who's never held a 'coaching' job with any pro team should be molding my franchise QB. Yah... Possibly even getting worse.

The happy-clapper has gotten a few other things wrong as well. Where? -In his legs? Start where everyone starts... Assistant, Assistant coordinator, Coordinator, etc. -NOT with the future of my franchise who I traded two whole rounds to get. Sadly. that means actual accountability to management, and Palmer hasn't grown those kind of balls yet. Better to declare yourself a guru, then watch the rubes line up. The 9 AFC championships mitigate the 0 passing attempt thing.

Belichick: Coached 42 years, for 7 pro teams, won 2 superbowls as a coordinator, and 5 superbowls as head coach. Jordan Palmer: 7-year NFL QB who started 0 games, and racked up 11 career completions. Hint: One's a real coach, the other's just a failed QB looking for work. JMO, but teachers provide information, and instruction with no real plan for you to be ultimately successful. Er go, you might still fail. A good coach actively prevents your failure with a plan for you to succeed. His money is in guaranteed results. -Or should be.

I'm not so sure he's helping Allen at all... Guess we'll see in August.

What team does Palmer coach for?