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    Is Cook worth it?

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    1 hour ago, Virgil said:

     

    The only reason I mentioned Barkley and Henry is because of James and his brother commenting on X about their contracts, inferring they want a new deal and like those numbers.  Based on their posts, I think it's reasonable to reference them.

     

    I knew I'd get this response from someone, yet didn't think I needed to point out the obvious that I'm not personally paying them 🤦‍♂️.

     

    It matters to the team, because there's only so much money to go around.  You can't pay everyone top dollar and expect to keep everyone together.  Beane has done a great job of getting player's buy-in and gotten people paid.  If Cook is about getting top dollar, and that's his right to, then his demands will probably not fit within the team plan.  Hence, the money matters.  

    No it does not

    Is Cook worth it?

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    2 hours ago, Virgil said:

     

    I have no issue paying Cook, but the price tag matters.  If I were the Bills, I would allow Cook to seek a trade and negotiate with other teams so he can see what his real value is.  Comparing himself to Henry and Barkley is insane, and I don't think any team would give him that type of contract.  I'm okay with up to 12 mil per, if it's front loaded, for cap flexibility while we have it.

    It does not matter, unless you are the one paying him. The goal should be to have as many players that produce more than the average player in the position that he is. You find a way to pay him. That argument "the pay matters" is for the unimaginative weak. I'm not saying pay him 50 mil a year, just pay him to keep him working hard and in a Bills uniform. Negotiating is part of the deal both ways, but if your gonna lose him cuz you wont pay him 15 mil then that's just insanity. He is not injury prone, doesn't fumble hardly, catches pretty much every throw at him. Not to mention he is pretty much the only player on the roster besides Allen that can score from anywhere on the field. You lose him you lose more games. Simple

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    Is Cook worth it?

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    1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

    It's cheaper but usually a disaster extending a RB before the last year of his rookie contract (Gurley, Dalvin Cook, David Johnson, Zeek, Chubb).   I'm having a hard time where one did work out off the top of my head at least within the last six to eight years.  McCaffrey you could argue was the best contract extension on his rookie deal but it was only a good deal for the 49ers (not the Panthers).

     

    Edit:  I forgot about Derrick Henry.  Well worth the money for the Titans.

    I agree for the most part, except that for the past 6-8 yrs RB's have been so horribly underpaid versus other positions the examples are really null. RB's are just now starting to get paid, and I would be surprised if you see the pay scale in relation to other positions exceeded. I believe the Bills have purposely decided as a team doctrine at most every position, to not have one star except QB, and attack their personnel lineup with many players. WR, RB, O-LINE, TE, DL, CB, S. LB they have only 5 and really treat that position like the Red headed step child of the philosophy. They have 2 good ones, and the other 3 are meh.

    Is Cook worth it?

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    3 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

    No doubt the most expensive way of acquiring a player is trading draft assets and then having to play that player top of the market value.  The fact that the Bills didn't draft his replacement in this year's draft made me think Beane would either give him a new contract extension or let him play out his fourth year.  Maybe he was offered something for Cook before the draft but it wasn't anything higher than a day three pick.

     

    I really wouldn't know what to do if I was Cook.  I think I'm playing this season no matter what.  On one hand I know that if it's best case scenario in the 2025 season like you laid out then his contract would be even bigger if signed next year with the salary cap going up.  However, you also face the risk of injury or declined production if our offensive line isn't magically healthy throughout the year like they were the last two.  At his age I pry would bet on myself.  As his agent I would advise him to get an extension with $25m or so in guaranteed money.  You're set financially for life. 

    If the Bills do not sign him this year it is a going to cost a heck of a lot more to sign him as the season ends and into the offseason. So if your the Bills you sign him now to an extension, if you do not sign him you are either Franchising him next year or you are losing or letting him walk after this year. If he hits 1500 yards and North of 12 TDS he will get over 20 M easy next yr IMO. It is always cheaper to sign the player early. 

    Who is your favorite Bill that was underrated or should have gotten more acknowledgement

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    48 minutes ago, T.E. said:

    The Drought started on that play.

    It sure did. 

    1 hour ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

    Off the top of my head… Willis McGahee gets loads of hate. More than any player I can think of with his level of production. Rushed for 3,365 & 24 TDs in only 3 years here. Went on to play for another seven years after leaving Buffalo, had bit of a career renaissance at 31 as well when he rushed for 1200 yards in Denver. 

     

    Edit: That Miami Hurricanes squad produced some legendary players. Their RB depth chart is only rivaled by the Thurman Thomas/Barry Sanders duo in Oklahoma IMO. Frank Gore, Clinton Portis, Willis McGahee as your RB stable is crazyyyy. 

    Travis Henry and Jamaal Lewis were not far behind if at all..just shows you how the philosphy of the game has changed. I wonder what a team would do now with a old school rf,fb, Te lineup with pro and i formation sets. 

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    Who is your favorite Bill that was underrated or should have gotten more acknowledgement

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    1 hour ago, BuffaloMatt said:

    Peerless Price:

     

    In the 2002 season, he appeared in and started all 16 games. He had five games going over the 100-yard mark and two games with multiple receiving touchdowns. He caught 94 passes for 1,252 yards and nine touchdowns. His best game came on September 15, 2002, when he caught 13 passes for 185 yards and two touchdowns, including a 48-yard score in overtime, during a 45–39 victory against Minnesota. After the season, the Bills used the Franchise Tag to ensure Price stayed with the team. Price was given permission to seek a trade, and the Atlanta Falcons were willing to give up a first round pick in the 2003 NFL draft for Price. The Bills used it to select running back Willis McGahee. 

    Peerless Price, Travis  Henry, Shawn Bryson all played for the 98 Ncaa Champ Tenessee Volunteers. That was a stacked team....

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    Bills 2nd Rnd pick in 2025 Draft : TJ Sanders - DT South Carolina

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    50 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

    Amazing - this kid has been a Bill for all of 10 minutes and already has a false fan myth - "He is too small"

     

    I don't know who needs to hear this (although it seems to be most of you) - but he is not undersized or small...not to mention he just said he is comfortable playing at 310 without losing any of his explosiveness.  

     

    That is neither undersized or small.

     

     

    The last Bills draft pick where I said " he is huge, gonna be our starter at his position for 10 plus years." was Mike Williams..LOL.. I am more disappointed in the position as I really wanted the Bills to trade up for Emanwori, I thought he would do so much more for our defense than any other player out there and even with our 30th pick.

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