The Cincinnati Kis

I am good with it. I didn't expect it, but that doesn't make it a bad pick. I think he'll be a solid guy for us that gives us options in the secondary.

Thanks Nevergiveup. We all appreciate your insight. FWIW: I hope we grab Miller. He is the guy I've wanted all along.

I have never seen one, but I think that it is a great idea. Maybe you could be the one. Why not? Follow your dreams!

Quinn, Newton, Gabbert With Quinn I just think of the WR Williams that Detroit took out of USC after having a year off and he BUSTED big time. I guess he latched on with Carroll and Seattle this year, but was out of football for a stint prior to that. Newton and Gabbert are good players and will be fine NFL players but I do not think either of them are going to be a Franchise QB. I think Gabbert is more likely than Newton to be one, but I liken him to a Marc Bulger or Jake Delhomme in their Primes. Newton just scares the crap out of me. I think, based on what I have seen and read about him and his body language, his quotes and his general demeanor, that h e feels entitled and that he won't get after it once in the NFL. I think he'll succeed like Vick did in ATL but he won't ever reach the level that a Top 5 draft pick with his measurables should reach....like Vick in ATL.

I thought at 13 it was the throwbacks, 21 def could be tho

Ok so now that the lockout is lifted (perhaps only for the moment), would you try and acquire Kolb for 3rd overall plus their 1st and 2nd? Then perhaps trade Kolb to some other team for their first? and a swap of a combination of 2nds? Its interesting... Suppose they want Jones or Green for a Big WR with Maclin and Jackson? Suppose they want a shot at Dareus or Miller? Lots of options here... What do you all think?