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You are uniquely incapable of understanding the written word. I never said Putin was not a war criminal. It is a boldfaced lie to ever claim that I did. What I listed was a number of countries that could be guilty of it, and this silly exercise of pointing fingers at only those you don't like is a waste of time. You continue to establish rock bottom in your useless and grossly false claims of what other people think.

This entire "war criminal" thing is a silly diversion. The US, UK. Germany, Japan, the USSR and subsequent Russia could be guilty of it. Israel is going to eliminate Hamas, or come as close as they can, unless stopped, and I don't see that happening. There are going to be many civilian casualties, because Hamas uses civilians and media nonsense as a major part of their strategy, because they have nothing else. Get over this "war criminal" nonsense.

If we had a Mongolian BBQ option here, it would be my auto go to. Back in my Navy days, the Cubi Pt. (Philippines) Officer's Club had Mongolian every Wed. It was the best.

Ceasefires jammed down Israel's throat after the Six Day War and Yom Kippur really worked eh? Hamas has to be eliminated for any hope, and the Israelis are committed to that regardless of what others, who have no "standing" suggest. The only way this ends is for Iran to be stopped and for some level of sane leadership to come from the Arab world in dealing with the Palestinians.

It makes perfect sense if you had been paying attention. Israel said, after the atrocities committed by Hamas that they were going to eliminate them. Not stop them, eliminate them. A ceasefire is a guarantee of Hamas' existence in Gaza, and a guarantee this all happens again. That is the correct stance, and it's going to be ugly.

Proverbs 29:9-11 There’s no use arguing with a fool. He only rages and scoffs, and tempers flare. Proverbs 26:4 English Standard Version Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself. Proverbs 18:2 A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge; fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 18:6 A fool's lips walk into a fight, and his mouth invites a beating. Proverbs 26:11 Like a dog that returns to his vomit is a fool who repeats his folly. I have challenged you regarding your accusation in the past, offering to contribute any amount of money to the charity of your choice if I was not truthful. How about this. $10,000 from me to the charity of your choice, (with the exception of a Biden reelection campaign fund, because I won't commit treason), if I can't produce bona fides. $1000 from you to the charity of my choice if I can. Take the bet or stfu.

If you are insinuating something, stop the nonsense and say it. If you can't say it, shut up. Beware of idiots who waste everyone's time. Sherpa 1:1

Not his fault. The press release from the Carter era DOD kind of claims that, but if was "Hey, if you see some floaters let us know,." Nothing unusual about that. Somebody spotted a boat and they looked to be in a bad way and they grabbed them and got them to the next port. The entire thing took about a day and didn't stop the usual stuff the airwing was doing Saying it was a carrier task force on a humanitarian mission is kind of like me claiming I was on a humanitarian mission if I help a kid cross the street. Kitty Hawk also hit some stupid Russian sub and did the sub some serious damage. The carrier didn't even know for a bit. Same logic/nonsense would have been for DOD to claim that Kitty Hawk completed a successful sub hunting and attacking mission.

They didn't get on the carrier. The Kitty Hawk task force spotted a group of about 20 or so Vietnamese refugees on a boat and they were fished out of the water, placed aboard other ships in the task force and dropped off by at the next port. Calling that a "humanitarian mission" executed by an aircraft carrier is grossly misleading. Carriers in third fleet, which is what ships in the US area are assigned to have provided humanitarian aid after hurricanes as with Katrina, but not with an airwing embarked and certainly not in a war zone.

They are aircraft carriers, not "Air Craft Carriers." I was talking about their use in the context of the two deployed there at this time. Both have full airwings embarked on them and are in war zones and possible war zones. It is possible to use one for a humanitarian mission without an operating airwing embarked, such as a earthquake or something in the western hemisphere. With an airwing aboard, an aircraft carrier is an extremely dangerous place. There is no additional room for anyone. The flight deck is probably the most dangerous work space on earth, and nobody would be allowed up there during flight operations. You can get killed or thrust overboard in a second. The hangar deck is always busy, but the huge openings where the elevators operate would be a likely place to fall overboard. There is no extra bunkrooms. It would take huge amounts of human resources to control whomever was boarded, and that manpower does not exist. As they are either in, or could be in war zones, there are times when general quarters was sounded, and there is not place to put them while the ship addresses the threat. In addition, there are other, better options.

Total dishonest, disingenuous nonsense.

Pistachios. I love them. Lump charcoal. I will die before I ever see another briquette in my grill. Strafing. It's fun and I miss it. Mind you, against acoustic banners, not people.

You really don't pay attention to what other's post, and it is clearly evident. A couple of weeks ago, I believe in this very thread, I wrote a lengthy post about responding to the Iranian takeover of the US Embassy in Tehran; the resulting hostage situation, and Kitty Hawk being turned around from going home to heading to the Arabian Sea and picking up the ill fated helos that were destroyed at Desert One. I also discussed the planning of eliminating two Iranian Air Bases in response to a query from Fergy. You should be aware of when that historic event occurred, as it significantly effected US foreign policy and a presidential election. You seem to not be able to connect dots. Anyway, my squadron deployed on Kitty Hawk and as part of that embarked airwing, I made two cruises on Kitty Hawk during the ship's WESTPAC/Indian Ocean operations from 79-81. https://www.navysite.de/cvn/cv63deploy.htm Scroll down to April 30 1979 and April 1 1981 deployments. I have over 200 of my 300 carrier arrested landings, called "traps," 100 at night on Kitty Hawk, and pages and pages of logbook entries recording those "so called experiences" to use your phrase your foolish doubt. The picture I included months ago of me after pre-flighting the alert 15 airplane carrying Sidewinders, APAM and HARM missiles is on Kitty Hawk.

Why do you care?

One is the action of a rogue few, identified as a war crime and prosecuted by the governing authority. Anathema to the US military. The other is a planned strategy by the governing authority, including the kidnapping of hostages. There is no analogy.

No. There is nothing emotional about the vast differences. The out of control actions of an individual unit, completely un sanctioned by the UCMJ and US military authorities is absolutely not comparable to a government planned, equipped, formally trained and executed barbaric war crime, including the taking of hostages. Military actions have spawned atrocities forever, but they are not condoned and prosecuted, usually.

By the way, while not knowing a thing about bourbon, I do know a thing about wine. Proud to see that, this week, the Monticello Viticultural Area has earned the Wine Enthusiasts Wine Region of the year award for 2023. That is a world wide competition. Additionally proud that the petit verdot grapes from my vineyard produced in 2017 produced the 2021 Virginia Governor's Cup silver medal award for best red. You are welcome to come over to this side of the mountain anytime. Never any hard feelings.

Nope. Not a thing. I just know that old fashion is not old fashioned. I have never had a taste for it. Haven't tasted anything other than beer or wine in over thirty years. Not my taste, but to each his own.

Fair enough. No problem. Couldn't resist, but no permanent scar. I know what three sheets means. I'm not sure about four, but I'm guessing it looks like a Biden Amtrak story rendition.

I'm not sure what your "club" serves, but the implication is that you are referring to a drink, called an "old fashioned." An "old fashion" is bell bottomed pants. Still, enjoy your golf lesson as summer ends in Virginia today, and have a great afternoon, but stay away from those old fashions.

I am not going to waste time taking your assignments. Do your own work. Start by comparing a horrible event by a small, independent unit to an attack planned for a year and including the entire terrorist group. Same can be said for abu ghraib. That was basically one night shift of one small unit. Horrible, but not a military strategy being executed. Additionally, those were prosecuted under the UCMJ. Think the leadership of Hamas is going to prosecute? They planned it. That is nothing like the planning and barbarism under which the Hamas invasion, rape, beheading, torture, burning, evisceration of fetuses was undertaken as a controlled, planned strategy. You outdo yourself every day. Simply unimaginable how someone could conclude what you regularly do.

Not remotely close, but no surprise there.

Yes. Despicable murdering terrorists have figured out how to geometrically expand the casualties of non combatants and hostages.

What's going on now is the attempted, promised elimination of Hamas. Really smart guys in a room to figure out tunnel warfare? How about Iwo Jima? Didn't work there, and there were few civilians. Sure. These really smart guys can figure out how to spare lives and just get the bad guys without other casualties. Just nonsense. Not possible. One late, additional note. The Iranian backed Houthis in Yemen shot down a US Reaper drone yesterday. They did this while the Reaper was in international airspace, technically an act of war. All you need to know about the Houthis is contained in their slogan: "God is the greatest. Death to America. Death to Israel. Cursed be the Jews. Blessed be Islam." We'll see if there is a response, but an undisputed act of war is generally responded to. In addition, Eisenhower must transit just south of Yemen to get where it's going. Could be some tense times on that portion of her repositioning.

While desirable, has been made practically impossible by Hamas.