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The "they" in my post was in answer to a question about the cockpit crew. Nothing to do with the passengers.

Their schedule told them. They have a schedule and they do not change that without notification. It involves a number of things, hotel/transportation changes etc., so if there is a change to your schedule, you know it. I'm not familiar with London City airport, so it may be that the crew boards from the ramp, or there are no terminal ..destination signs, and I have never looked at baggage tags. Still, I am very familiar with flight management system uploads and how flights are managed from the flight deck. You don't get the plan up-link until you type in the destination ICAO identiier. Not possible they typed in the identifier for Edinburgh instead of Dusseldorf, as it would cause a host of other issues. Point is they were expecting to fly to Edinburgh, had a flight plan for Edinburgh, loaded the flight management system for Edinburgh and flew to Edinburgh. Not possible to stare at a screen that displays your route and not notice it is going northwest instead of east, and a hundred other things that would have tipped them off. In short, not their issue.

The part of your post after the second sentence is inaccurate and impossible. The crew thought the flight was going to Edinburgh. That's what it was filed for and that's what their flight plan said. It is not remotely possible to "take-off, engage the autopilot and not pay attention to where the airplane is heading." Nor is it possible to not notice that if you think you are flying from London City airport to Dusseldorf, which is a largely easterly heading, that you would not notice that you didn't fly over the English Channel, transit Belgian or Netherlands airspace and talk to their controllers and enter Germany, but instead head northwest and check in with Scottish. Again, they were told the flight was to Edinburgh and flew the plan as intended.

The Hoos demolished Gardner Webb from the six minute mark in the first half.

I think you might benefit from seeing what you really have. Heat pumps can be set up so that once a certain condition occurs, they activate electrical heat. Kind of like a toaster. They can also be set up to go to LP or some other source under certain conditions. What I do know is that there is no heat pump that works using a regular refrigeration reversal at anything below 35 degrees.

We have built the last three houses we've lived in, so I had a lot to say about the HVAC stuff. Radiant floor heating is really nice, but it is expensive and limits your choice of flooring. You could do the research yourself, but using some tile product is vastly different than carpeting or wood flooring. Did geothermal in the second house. Very nice, especially in the Virginia summers, since it is extremely good at de-humidification. We always had our ac set at 76, and it felt much cooler than any neighbors at 74. Would have done it again, but it suddenly got really expensive. Heat pumps are great for ac, and OK for heat until you get to 40, and I don't care what they say. Below 40, it just doesn't handle it. Wood isn't comfortable. We've done that before, though a woodstove in California, not as a primary heat source, but just to make one room really cozy. Too dry and dirty. LP is OK for a fireplace, but doesn't put out nearly as many BTU's as NatGas. Anyway, that's my experience.

I think one of the great benefits to this team was Edmunds going through the year without injury or games missed. That was one of my hopes going into a year where I thought we had no chance to make the playoffs.

They are in no way, by anyone's distorted imagination, in any way "attached" to Jesus.

Those are not soups.

Patiently waiting for the first "high level business meeting" reference.

I'm a non fiction aficionado. My favorite book ever is "Undaunted Courage," the story of the Lewis and Clark Expedition, by Stephen Ambrose. Just a fantastic story about a time when men dared greatly. Another good one that isn't well known is "the Millionaire and the Bard," by Andrea Mays. It's the story of Henry Folger's relentless pursuit of the original Shakespeare folios. Might not sound like that interesting of a story, but it is really great. It also gets into the creation of the Folger Shakespeare Museum in Washington, which houses the collection and is really a neat place to visit, very close to the Library of Congress. Recently, and since I have an astronomy and space interest, I just finished "Death by Black Hole," by Neil deGrasse Tyson. He is an astrophysicist with a real skill of explaining things that those of lesser skill in providing such explanations can butcher.

That screws a bunch of things up.

Love my Hoos....but...... Their success always begins with defense, like all Bennett teams.

We shall see. I hate talking about games before they happen. Both UVA uards were talking about the difficulty of playing in the Carrier Dome....Depth perception issues because of the size of the arena. Still....UVA has had absolutely no problem with zones.

Can't wait. Go Hoos.

I have a few friends who left service academies and went to Ivy League schools. Universally, they claimed the service academies were much more challenging, for what that's worth, and their opinion eliminated the military demands,

Bikini Airline Be suspicious if they offer accommodations at the Hanoi Hilton.

Missiles cannot come close to bomb effectiveness. Way too much goes in to the thrust system, which does nothing to the target.

Ya, the more distance between the engines, the greater the thrust asymmetry when one isn't working. How much rudder ti takes to keep going straight is a function of how much thrust you ask of the good engine. I have not flown the F-14, fought it a hundred times, so I can't answer the question from experience. But for sure, you wouldn't want to be in full burner on one side with a failure on the other, and you would never do it, if you wanted to live.

You are not quite right on this Tom. You are reading the accident report, which was a gross attempt to inoculate her from blame. Watch the Youtube of the overshoot and the ejection. It's easily available, as all carrier launches and recoveries are filmed. But the most interesting thing about it is the comments below the video. Not the usual uninformed knuckleheads who always comment but credible folks who knew. Extremely unusual for people to write what they wrote, and be very discerning. There are people in those comments who were so incensed over this this that they pointed out the facts, and her history, and left their names attached to it. Very unusual. Still, there is no proof there was ever a compressor stall, and it didn't matter. She didn't "bank left." She jammed the left rudder down and yawed left to try to save an un-salvageable situation. At that point the airplane "departed controlled flight," and there was no possibility of recovery. She then jams the throttles full forward to zone 5 afterburner, and the right engine responds, creating a gross asymmetry. But it didn't matter. It was already too late. And as I said, she had demonstrated" this technique before and had dis-qualled. This isn't the first time this had happened. The Navy wanted to get another minority guy as the first one to fly a single seater from a carrier. Didn't work, and he killed himself in the same way. During the accident investigation, when his training records were reviewed, it was obvious he was being moved ahead when others would have been taken out. I'm extremely familiar with that accident, and it still irritates me.

I'm certain they try to track carriers, but there was a period where the Russians really didn't have many assets in shape to do it. I'm also certain that our sub force is on them. As I mentioned, their position relative to the task force was never mentioned. The Soviets always had an intel ship within about 20 miles of our carrier. They always picked us up about two days out of Pearl. I ran across two subs in my two cruises on Kitty Hawk, both in the Indian Ocean. One was a Soviet sub on the surface who was heading to port with some obvious problem. There were a couple of us buzzing it and the other guy asked on the intl emergency frequency if he was OK or needed any help and they answered they were OK, to which the other guy replied, "Is that why you're pulling a 75 mile long oil slick?" Clearly it was leaking something. The other was kind of funny. Someone spotted a surfaced Indian sub about 80 miles from the carrier, and of course we all went over for a look when we got done doing what we were doing. Anyway, this guy gets on the intl emerge freq., and with an obvious Indian accent states something to the effect that he is the captain of this sub , and all American Naval aircraft should immediately exit the area. Someone says "Why? He says becasue his ship is involved in an active military exercise. Someone else says "Well, I guess you lost."

Tom. I like what you you do here. but your conclusions are from reading reports. She caused the compressor stall, which was never proven, by the way, by jamming full left rudder during an overshoot of the center line of the carrier. This is a Cessna move, and she had done it before. She had dis-qualled before for the same reason. She jammed the rudder, never done in a jet airplane, stalled the airplane and the RIO command ejected the both of them. She was totally incompetent, and the F-14, again, was a relatively easy airplane to get aboard.

I was a pilot, so the way we fought against ships was to set up a strike and try to get to them before they shot us down. Easy to determine who got who first. Only at sea though. Subs are a different breed. You know when they are around, and they are always around when there's a carrier involved. Usually get picked up as soon as we left Hawaii, but our subs and anti sub airplanes are on them at all times. After my sea tour, I was fortunate to go to TopGun as an aggressor. Those are the guys who fight the class. In the movie, its the guys who are running the scenarios and the guys Cruz fought. Had the great opportunity to fight many different Air Forces all over the world, as well as our own Navy and Air Force hundreds of times. Many different scenarios. A lot of fun.

She wasn't "under qualified." She was incompetent, and the F-14 was a relatively easy plane to bring aboard the ship.

Ground guys can answer that. I can't. My experience is in Navy carrier based fighters, and the experiences involving females in that arena, along with other very bad experiences attempting to get other special situations into an area that has no margin for error.