Thurmal34

11th all time in catches, 12th all time in rec TDs, and 13th all time in rec yards. That's a Hall of Famer. edit - crap, just looked at Brown and Harrison and they are both better all time than Dre in all 3 categories. Hopefully Dre's seniority carries the day.

In before anyone else sez the Bills used the Schwartz

Wow, who knew Wade was such a prolific tweeter?

Hey Kirb - your point about talent is more than valid. What is your take on Rodgers not grasping the biggest opportunity of his life?

Just saw a blurb that the Pats have only had 3 100 yd rushers all year. Of course 2 of those 3 were against us. That stinks.

Of course. Prime example. We traded for him based on what his one game with Jax would have projected to over a season. Right?

Fair enough. Like I said upthread, I think a player should have to earn a spot, not be given one. For every Rodgers, there's a Robey.

Right, and Rob Johnson's stats projected to...doesn't a player have to actually do something to make the team at some point? If, as has been posited, Rodgers made the team over Hogan, would he have seen the field here more than Hogan did?

Kirby, in your opinion, do you think keeping Rodgers would have propelled the Bills to a better record in 2013 than 6-10? If so, how? What impact do see him having over the course of the year and how would he have improved the 6-10 mark you cite?

That's a fair opinion. I just don't think "disinterested" deserves to make any NFL club, regardless of being 20% more productive than a #6 WR. I don't think it's about who they kept, I think its about what Rodgers didn't do to earn his way onto the team. We can all agree that Rodgers is far more talented than Hogan or Easley. What we are disagreeing on is if Rodgers earned his way on to the team or not. Titus Young says hi.

I guess where we disagree is about Rodgers having to earn his way onto the team. Fair enough.

Fair point but he was booted out of the SEC, no? Why? Was it because of a lack of commitment and dedication to his craft? Was it something else? Who knows? I understand what you are saying about him being more physically gifted than Hogan/Easley and I'm sure you are correct. However, if he didn't do enough to make the team, with all that talent, then why is this an issue? The guy did not earn it.

Fair enough Kirb, but aren't there thousands of guys with talent? At some point don't you have to earn your way onto the squad?

Why? Are you looking for the Bills coaching staff to fail? Don't you want the Bills to be a successful franchise? I guess I don't understand why people are grumpy about cutting Rodgers. The guy did not do enough in camp to make the club, right? Can you explain why you think it was a bad move?

Does this remind anyone else of that time Shula broke his foot and had to ride a lark on the sidelines? And because he had Marino at the time he was forced to catch up to the yardage markers at a snail's pace when Marino hit a long pass?

Seems like this thread is a perfect launching pad for all of us to tone down the vitriol that has permeated the site over the last few years. We're all Bills fans fans, each entitled to our own opinion, and healthy discourse is the lifeblood of a robust and active fanbase. To that end, I'm removing my signature that called out another poster and embarking on a campaign of presenting my own opinion while respecting differing opinions with both ears (and mind) open. Go Bills!

I do believe there were phones and credit cards in 1993, right? Or was the only way to secure a ticket for that game to physically drive to OBD?

Backing off

Don't you think that pre-draft analysis was super lazy though? "Marrone coached him at 'Cuse so he's going to take him?" Seemed like people put no thought into it and then were upset when the Bills didn't follow the lazy script that these folks had laid out in their minds. No one knew Nasaib better than Marrone and Hackett at draft time. That they didn't take him speaks volumes about how they felt about him contributing at the NFL level.

It's never that black and white though, is it? Seems like if a poster has a positive take on any specific thing OBD does they are labeled an "apologist" and if a poster bashes OBD for a specific move they are labeled a "hater". The concept a single poster being able to objectively applaud one move while criticizing another has been lost. It's a shame.

Hogboy!

Eye opening stuff Dibs, nice work.

What in the heck? How is this even a thread? Nassib? Seriously?

That's how I interpreted it as well.

Pettine should be embarrassed. His boys just got humiliated.