Thurmal34

Right, let's trust the cops. Wake up!

To be fair, our country was actually built on exactly that. It's pillars are racism and shortly thereafter genocide. The question is how best to progress? To admit failure and move on in a progressive way...

Boston CRUSHED it today. People not standing idly by. So proud.

It's the correct take. Plenty of room on an actual battlefield to honor not only the fallen valiants but the leaders of both groups. The hallowed ground of Fredericksburg, Antietam (Sharpsburg if you are from the South), The Wilderness, Shiloh, and more all deserve monuments and statues to the fallen as well as leaders from both sides to commemorate what occurred there. No problem. That's our history. That's what happened. Memorialize on the spot in which occurred. Not 30 years after the Civil Wat ended in Helena, Montana. Imagine being a young professional black dude living in say Charleston, owning a condo in town, law degree in hand, eager to make your mark, and having part of your daily commute take you past a statue of AP Hill. Or Harry Heth. Elevated up on a large platform riding a horse in full battle regalia. You looking up at that every day as you walk to your new job.

Those guys were Wehrmacht, not Nazis party members, so no. What I'm saying is Lee led the army of a traitorous nation that was founded on white supremacy and was defeated. Those guys led the army of a regime bent on conquest for lebensraum and based on aryan supremacy and was defeated. One nation admitted they were wrong and moved on.

Ever been to Germany? Notice all the statues of Jodl, Von Rundstadt, Keitel, Von Paulus, and Rommel? Me neither. This isn't hard.

Dude. Bro. Of course. But then the fascists in Charlottesville were threatening Jewish existence as well, weren't they?

To quote my man George Carlin, we are the only country that mentions rockets and bombs right there in our national propaganda song! Were the pyramids built to honor traitors and seditionists?

Who said anything about silencing any free speech, at any point in this thread?

Yep, agree 100%. All about hearing stuff I don't like, and even listening to it and giving it consideration. However, I also reserve the right to reject it, especially if it's a tenet of superiority based on a particular pigmentation.

Welp. My original point was there is only one side that any American can take, and that's being against fascism. However you want to rationalize your feelings and beliefs is up to you. I will stand against fascism until I'm dead. I owe that to my children.

Comparing communism to fascism is like comparing capitalism to dictatorship. They aren't the same thing. I've tried to explain this to you but I guess I'm not doing a very good job. Is there some other method I can use to help you understand the difference between an economic system and a form of goverment? Does antifa stand for "anti-fascist"?

Oy. We don't have a democracy, we have a republic. Come on, man.

Yes!! Exactly, well done. That said, there is ALWAYS moral relativism when it comes to fascism. Always.

I'm not going to call names. I'll just point out that we wiped out an entire race of people and enslaved another as we expanded west. If you want to hang your hat on that we wiped out less people than other countries did, then I say go for it! Be proud of that! Celebrate it!

Def will. Always up for learning more. Thanks!

No, thats dictatorship, the governmental system best suited to pair up with the economic system of communism. Neither is a system worth pursuing. Get out of your box and try free thinking. It works, it really does. And really, didn't we already cover genocide? If you want cite death tolls, the best place to start is at home.

Joe, pro tip: communism is an economic system, not a form of government.

The treatment of AA's by American police since the 13th amendment speaks for itself. I mean, dude.

I not going to call names. I'll leave that to you. I'm comfortable knowing I'm standing up for what is right. You do you. I'll do me.

Communism is an economic system. Dude.

Yes, agreed. We are on the same page.

In every situation, you have to ask why. What do you think the motive was? Am I correct in interpreting "antifa" as meaning "anti-fascist"?

You sound scared.

Agreed, But you don't glorify it. Did I miss the part where they burned all the books about the Civil War while taking down the symbols of oppression? It's not like the statues are the only way to tell the story.