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Wrong QB..Would hvae give up the 3rd this year for Ryan Mallet

Mr. Jauron...Your approach really comes to mind....with your McCargo pick.....Something on the lines of Best DT available @ that point in the draft...even though he was the 3rd best player on that line that included Mario Williams and Manny Lawson....and we know how that Panned out.. You cannot reach for players unless they are a sure thing and there is no sure thing in NFL. Don't pick 1 year wonders from college...They usually cannot cut it. Don't pick players who have bloated their stats against weak opposition. Pick a player based on what his contribution is going to be. There is a HIDDEN Answer to your question. What you need to ask of these successful teams is: How many OL coaches have they had in the past 11 years...For most of them, the answer would be a couple and that would be mainly because the OL coach got promoted and they were able to successfully promote from within and keep the CONTINUITY. We had one OL coach for a 5 year window, but unfortunately we had three different Head Coaches during that time, whereby the philosophies were changed each time. Successful teams have continuity in their front office, continuity in coaching staff, continuity in their draft philosophy etcc....The Bills just have not had that...and that is a big reason for their failure.

Levitre is too small for being a center.

Yeah...Lee is a class act...A very dignified personality....Kudos to him and hope he gets to that mythical playoffs in his career...One thing though...the AFC North is a very tough black-and-blue division and there is war everytime the steelers play the ravens and the intensity is very high...Lee is a pretty finesse player...it will be interesting to see how he copes with that division.

Q&A with Ravens Lee Evans

And...another one bites the dust....Limas Sweed of that draft class was cut by the Steelers today... Limas Sweed Cut by the Steelers The other bust is Malcolm Kelly for the Washington Redskins....The only guy who succeeded was Desean Jackson and I think that was purely due to the system in which he played and used his burning speed.

Again...please can you line up those OTs that are out on the street that can come and make this team significantly better. I don't want one crap replaced by another crap.

It is one thing to criticize the Bills blindly, but it is another when you cannot come up the list of other candidates that they could have gone after...... Flozelle Adams and Max Starks have not been re-signed by their own teams, the steelers who themselves have a very weak line.....Langston Walker is available, if you want to throw another 25 Million at him...The Truth is that teams don't let go of their starting OTs if they are any good, except for the Bills who were twisted around by Jason Peters on his way to Philadelphia. The RT tackle from Pittsburgh would have been a good fit, but he really wanted to use all other teams to gauge his market and then went to the Steelers for a counter offer and bingo...they gave him the offer because he is a good RT and they didn't want to let him go. The Bills have failed to address the Tackle position at the top of the Draft and also have not had luck with their late round picks. I am more worried about their depth than their starters.

Did I miss something...I thought there was just an offer and the Jets had actually not signed Maybin.

And since the OP talks about not having depth, how much are backups going to cost for the team. The OL mess is way over blown. Every team has a decent set of starters and some backups. Our weakest issue is lack of two starting caliber tackles. Both Bell and whoever start at RT at best would be backups on most teams. And for not drafting a QB for the future...Ryan Mallet in the 3rd round has far more value than a Sheppard, especially if he can sit and learn behind Fitzpatrick. O Well... Nix has made his share of mistakes (or likely to fail) and will have to live by it. The Spiller pick made no sense last year...and so did the 3rd round pick this year. Also, the fact that Spiller, Troupe, Carrington, the top 3 picks in last years draft were not able to make any contribution (or even getting a starting job) says a lot about those picks. Similarly if Williams and Sheppard cannot get on the field, then it would be another wasted draft.

The Bills have had what @ 45+ drafts in their history. There are 22 starting positions in the NFL...that gives you a shot at getting 2-3 starters at the same position in that period of time. The Bills have invested on the OL this decade...just have not been successful...Except for the Donahoe era, the bills have tried hard.....Dockery, Walker, Williams, Wood, Levitre...Hangatner, Green, ..The only guy who had a pro-bowl career, Jason Peters was traded. Again, we don't know all the details, but there was definitely rumors @ that time that Peters asked too much money from the Bills as a way out to go and play somewhere else. The ones they missed, Eric Steinbach instead of McGahee, Mangold instead of McCargo, Oher instead of Maybin.

I may have given too much credit to Prisco...but the fact is that it does not matter whether he ranks as @ 25 or 32....Right now we are the doormats of the NFL and until we can pick up ourselves and get some wins, it doesn't matter. The guy has to cover 32 teams..where is his focus going to be....not @ the doormats....I don't believe Prisco is an idiot and doesn't know his football. As you agreed, there are just way too many IFs for this team to succeed. I agree...The bills probably have the weakest Tackles in the NFL and until last year we also had a very small guy playing center...The Bills cannot run on the edges nor between the tackles. Plus as Nix said today, we also have the weakest depth on the OL in the NFL. Also, I am not sure whether we can evaluate talent or have good coaching.....A guy like Jonathan Scott who started at LT for a few games couple of seasons ago, is the starting LT protecting the blind side of Ben Rothelisberger. How did a doormat player who was crushed play-in-play-out, go on to starting the most important position on offense besides a QB.

Give him a break..He could have ranked us anywhere from 25 to 32. All the teams in that group can be flipped around and given the same reasons for their failure. It is not like that the Bills are really in the top 10 (or even top 20) and that Prisco is stupid. The Bills were the 3rd worst team last season and no one has any idea as to how they will do this season...especially with almost the same cast...There are so many IFs.... - If Fitzy will have similar season like last year - If Merriman will be the same old former self as in SD - If Spiller will be able to shrug off his horrible rookie season - If the Bills will have a decent OL - If the Bills will be able to stop the run or falter like last year. - If the Bills will be able to replace Lee Evans - If the Bills DC be able to outsmart Ryan and Belichek Prisco has been doing this for so many years..It is silly to pretend that he knows nothing about football. I am sure he knows much more than any of us on this board.

+1.. and it is 11 seasons since we made the playoffs.

Trai Essex was a career backup in Pittsburgh and had conditioning issues. The fact that Jonathan Scott who was horrible here in Buffalo beat him to the LT spot says everything. I would rather have Max Starks who started for the Steelers at both LT and RT.

Completely agree...For a guy who can play offense and special teams and make a difference @ the end of the day....I am all for it. And finally, I think this is one of the Gailey pick where he has a plan. As someone else posted, Gailey could not run the Wildcat either with Spiller or Jackson...With Smith he can. When you can get 5 yards on 1st and 10, that is a great play to move the chains.

I believe Hangartner came to the Bills from the Panthers, mainly for a chance to start @ Center and I am not sure that is (playing RG) something he may be interested. I think Urbik is going to start @ RG for game 1. On the other hand, the RT spot is wide open.

One of the reasons for average ST last season was that DeHaven had less to work with. There were new players and a new system and also new rules...The bills were average...and with the Offense and Defense being what it was, it really did not matter.

Also, by taking him away from our rival, it is one less chance to hurt us in those two games...and Brad Smith hurt us in last years games.

Agreed 100%...When you give up 200+ yards in half your games, you better start fixing what is broken.....and the DL was broken and a blue chip prospect available....

I think they lost that ability with the Evans trade. Hopefully Jones or Spiller will be able to fill in.

Thanks Bills for renewing your thread again for this season. Now I feel my Bills Experience of the week Complete.

Dude...your precious daughter got you something for you to Cherish and Remember....Well..that is what you will do with Lee and Poz...Cherish the good plays and remember them as good Bills players.

Why do we have to jump on the ownership for every front office move. Go yell at Buddy and Chan as this is their choice. Buddy builds his team with "bigger" people. One of the reasons he brought Craig Davis from SD to here. While I think they traded the wrong WR (Parrish instead of Evans), I don't think the owner has anything to do here. As another poster said, this franchise should have had a Buddy kind of GM in 2000...They hoped Donahoe would have been that, but all he waanted was revenge against the Steeler (For kicking him out in favor of the Chin).

Except that it may have been easier for this team to unload Roscoe Parrish than Evans...considering that we already have a replacement for Parrish in Brad Smith.