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Obviously Peyton won't be signing a long term deal . I think he signs a 1-2 yr deal at the most and he's definitely not gonna sign anywhere without being 100% healthy. I think if he goes anywhere it's not gonna be just for the money. Peyton will probably sign for bout 15 mil per so he can still give his team cap space to add more talent. Wouldn't it be great if he signed for the minimum and told Pegs get me some help

How can u just say that, If we get in the playoffs healthy and on a roll anything is possible. Especially when u have a great D and hopefully a power running gm to go with Peyton leading the offense with his mind and arm. Even if Peyton is 75% of what he was this yr that still might be the best chance we got to win it all.

I think this is there plan, Keep building this D and beef up the running gm to top notch levels so that Defenses have to load up the box to defend it. Once the D loads up that box it's time to go vertical. The Seahawks do this better then anyone else and it works. Every time I watch the Hawks play I find myself amazed by the intelligence of this philosophy. There running gm sets up there vertical gm. Taking shots down field vs 1 on 1 coverage makes the gm easier on your QB. Making those down field passes are actually easier then dinking dunking your way to the end zone. Watching Russ Wilson play he's not very good at working threw progressions. He's not gonna lead many long drives during the season he's just not consistent enough of a passer. I believe EJ can play in a similar offense and have similar success. Power running with taking shots down field where there is actually more space to throw the ball to spots instead of short & intermediate gm where u have to throw into small windows. Now of course there gonna have to mix in some screens and high percentage short passes to keep the defense honest. I fully expect the Bills to play with this style taking advantage of the skill sets of Sammy & Woods.

I beg to differ, Let's say Peyton becomes available he's looking for a perfect fit to end his career. He sees Buffalo thinks hey this team has one hell of a D, great Special teams and some fine young pieces on offense. Peyton tells his agent set me up an interview with Mr Pegula and the Bills hierarchy. During interview Pegs tells Peyton we'll get u Ap fix the line and add your buddy JT no problem. Peyton starts to think about beating Brady, Belicheck and bringing a Superbowl to Buffalo. Now What does that do for Peyton legacy? Winning a Superbowl in Buffalo might just propel Peyton back into the goat discussion.

I'm not saying Joe B is the end all be all of Bills news but he makes a few points in discussing this subject. DW likes that bum C Williams and has talked up Kujo & Cyril this off season. This is definitely a Whaley move just like when he signed Tony Moeaki and said "we have guys". Those words make me cringe "we have guys" well Doug I'm gonna let u in on something, everyone has guys!. But can those guys play I think is the question. We seen this the last 2 yrs with Doug waiting for Unga & McClain to develop, waiting for Tony Moeaki to fix our Te situation even waiting on a undersized Chris Gragg. Well boys get ready to wait some more. Its Kujo & Cyril turn. Part 3 of the interior line dilemma. I'm hoping DW has learned from the past and goes out and signs another guard banking on only RI when he hasn't played in almost 2 yrs is ridiculous. Don't get me wrong I like the fact that we have young players to develop on the line but counting on them to play at a high level next season is wrong. Let those guys sit next season and develop properly. RI will be off the books and either Cyril or Kujo can take over when there ready.

I was listening to wgr and Joe B seems to think the Bills are pretty much finished with the Oline. He says we might draft a player late but that's bout it. I think this would be a huge mistake, I guess DW really doesnt put much stock into building our offensive line properly. He has had 2 yrs to fix the guard spot and just can't. I really hope this is not the case and that we will sign another veteran guard that can start right away. Relying on young unproven players like Cyrus & Cyril to develop into fixtures on this team can end up costing DW his job. Seems like DW likes playing with fire hopefully he doesn't get burned.

Rebuild? Pittsburgh is looking like contenders. There Offense is top notch and the Defense needs some adjustments but they have some young pieces. If Pitt trades Big Ben I would be in big shock!

Just the mention of Blaine name makes me feel like throwing up on this board, I'd rather sign JP Losman. Lol

I'm starting to think the line is almost complete and Whaley won't be making any big moves. DW will probably add another low priced free agent like a Wille Colon but that's it. Whaley doesn't value paying guards premium money and I fully expect him to stick to his guns. Here is a little preview of what our line can look like heading into camp Lt- Glenn, Hairston LG- Incognito, Williams, Urbik C- Woods, Urbik & late draft pk Rg- Colon, Cyrus, Cyril= camp battle Rt- Henderson, Hairston, Cyrus

Cut them this off season so dead cap money can hit the cap now while we have the space

Thanks for clarifying the Status of both Williams & Urbik I guess it's even better that we can cut them after June 1st, gives our coaches time to see if these guys can fit into our plans.

Well said 100% correct

Moving forward Chris Williams should be cut now, he's getting nearly 4 mil per to compete? the guy is a bust bum that can't stay healthy and even when he's healthy he's not very good. When we signed him from my understanding he was basically on a 1yr trial deal. That he can be cut now and there's no cap penalties. If this is the case cut bait now please. This 4 mil can be used to bring in a real stud lineman. If Williams stays in Buffalo that's just lazy management not doing there jobs correctly and if gets hurt again and doesn't perform maybe Whaley should look elsewhere for a job

I just watched some Preseason footage of Tyrod Taylor he looks like a fit in Romans scheme for sure, While watching, Jon Gruden & Ray Lewis had some really good things to say bout TT. Ray Ray even said Tyrod was the steal of the draft that yr. Ray went on to say that Taylor is very impressive and he called him the human highlights film. I wouldn't mind this move but only if it comes with another signing like Matt Moore. MM should be signed to be our insurance plan.I think MM can be the Alex Smith of Romans Offense there skill sets are similar. If TT or EJ don't pan out we got a guy with experience that can take the reins. TT won't break the bank should be looking to sign with us for cheap figuring he can steal the job from Ej. So with that said I'm cool going into training camp with EJ, Matt Moore & Taylor battling it out. I know this isn't sexy but what choice do we have barring some miracle trade for Big Ben or Brees. This is realistic and has potential to be a steal.

I applaud the Bills for this signing, but let's not stop here when it comes to the line we still need 1 maybe 2 more additions to this line. Let's cut bait with Urbik, C Williams & Pears and go hard after Boiling & RT Parnell from Dallas those 2 guys would be great additions to this team at a good reasonable price. I think Parnell won't get more then 3yr 10mil and Boiling probably 4 yrs 16-20 mil. If we can't get Boiling I would love to sign Jahri Evans once he gets cut from the Saints. Evans is the kind of road grader Roman & Kromar love. New starting line Cordy, Boiling/Evans, Wood, Incognito, Parnell. . That's Bully!

With Gilmore we have the same option (5th yr) we had with Dareus. The Bills have until may to exercise this option if not he becomes free agent in 2016.

First of all Kendricks is a great blocker and pretty good Red zone target. Gilmore has 2 yrs remaining with team option. Yes I might of low balled a couple of guys but that's the value I feel is safe for those players. I don't think Ap will get anything over 5mil. Murray was just offered 4 yrs 16 mil from Dallas. Hardy won't get paid but doesn't mean he will come to Buffalo either. This was my dream scenario I would be happy with half these guys.

We should first & foremost call every team bout possible availability of there QB, if for some reason a guy like Big Ben is up for discussion. I wouldn't have a problem giving them 3 firsts no problem. Even Captain Phillip I'd give them 2 firsts. But those guys won't be available so we got to scrap the bottom of the free agent barrel see what we can get

If u really think about it's not that much. It could be 1yr deal for Locker if he pans out he can get paid if not have a nice day. Moore can be signed to be a backup option just in case EJ or Locker don't work out. I don't think either one is a long term answer but having depth can be good for competition.

Gilmore still has at least 2 yrs left, Cordy ain't with a dollar over 6 mil per season at best especially if he plays like he did last yr. Bradham shouldn't break the bank either. Iupati 8mil per Boiling 4.5 mil per Parnell 3 mil per Top notch FB no more then 2 mil JC 4 mil or JT possibly 7 mil. We targeting only one of these guys. 33 yr old David Harris 3.5 mil per Hardy shouldn't get more then 5 mil on 1yr prove it deal. Spiller 3 mil per Ap or Murray 5 mil per. Lance Kendricks 2.5 mil We can cut Urbik, Rivers, C Williams. Don't resign Pears, Hairston. Freddy comes off the books next yr. I wouldn't worry bout signing people back until the time comes in which we can open up more space by redo Mario Deal and others. Remember we have an owner now that doesn't mind paying upfront. No more cash to cap philosophy. Btw we should be upwards of 40 mil under the cap with the roll over. We have plenty money. This is my dream off season but like u said I would be happy if we can get half these guys

#1 sign both Locker & Matt Moore to compete with EJ for starting QB. #2 Let Hughes walk & sign Greg Hardy for half the price on a 1yr prove it deal. #3 Cut Keith Rivers & Sign David Harris to play next to Kiko #4 Resign Spiller & Go hard after either Ap or Demarco Murray. #5 Sign one of the top FBs available Felton, Hynoski or Kuhn #6 Cut Urbik, C Williams and sign Boiling, Iupati and Rt Parnell from the Dallas kid is a beast can be had for cheap. #7 Resign Searcy #8 Sign either Jordan Cameron or Julius Thomas also add Te from STL Lance Kendricks, These 2 signings would give us a excellent 3 TE set with Chandler, Kendricks and either JC or JT. #9 Draft best player available in all rounds. If WR Doran Green Beckham is available I would take him at #50. With these moves the Bills will be ready to compete for division right away. All these moves wouldn't be mind blowing big money signings. Yes Iupati, JT or one of the rbs probably cost some dough but the rest of the guys can fit in nicely into our cap.

We should sign both Jake Locker & Matt Moore. Make it 3 way battle for starter, EJ, Moore & Locker

Applause hooray, I thought I was the only one that sees this stuff. Omg the holding, it's incredible what the Pats get away with. Btw what stopped u from mentioning the TUCK RULE! That is like the billboard of the NFL love for these cheaters.

I wouldn't mind bringing in Hardy & Ap, these players make us better and hopefully they learned from there mistakes. Adding Hardy can save us at least 5 mil instead of resigning Hughes and he's a better all round player. Ap is a freak of nature and would flourish in Roman scheme. The Pats & Bengals have been living off second chance players for yrs now. Sometimes it works for both the player and the teams that sign them. Ap & Hardy are well liked & respected teammates in there locker room. They are not cancers to there teams. Sign me up for both of them.

[3yrsl name=TheTruthHurts" post="3451860" timestamp="1423125091] They didn't draft him so now after sitting they would think he is better than EJ? Highly unlikely. Times change people change opinions change Ryan Nassib has been said to have developed very well playing behind Eli Manning he's young athletic and has a lighting quick release. Nassib just might be the fit that Greg Roman is looking for if anything he should be brought in to compete with EJ. I think he would be better then anyone of those other QBs that have already had there chances. Ryan Nassib is a mobile QB that can go vertical. What would u rather have Jake the Hurt Locker or Matt i haven't played in 3yrs Moore.