Jauronimo

You just responded to my rebuttal. Do you smell toast?

You have multiple times responded to my substantive posts over the past few days with some form of "thats a word salad" which is a total cop out. Beyond weak. You introduced a false choice in your previous post between some "semi controversial" hypothetical and public celebrations of death. I'm not taking the bait and letting you advance your own definitions of terms and degrees of controversy, as that is an obvious and underhanded way to debate. I attempted to have an adult conversation with you in good faith, and predictably my efforts were in vain.

I don't know what "semi controversial" comments you are referring to or who deemed them only "semi controversial". Further, I don't know how this hypothetical of "semi controversial" opinions is even relevant. It is obvious that you are advancing a highly flexible and personally convenient definition of what cancel culture entails. Luckily, for us we don't need to debate the meaning of the term cancel culture as it has already been established.

This is an impressive meltdown. I think you haven't even approached bottom yet. How much lower can you go, I wonder?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancel_culture Definitionally, it is cancel culture. Social media outrage, citizens reporting people for their transgressions, calling for firings. The only difference between this example of cancel culture and thousands of others is that this time you're the one who is outraged rather than the one defending free speech.

I do find it disturbing. I have no sympathy for anyone losing their job for celebrating a murder. Make no mistake, this is absolutely cancel culture.

Relax. You aren't making any sense.

A quick primer on hate speech before you confuse yourself further: hating an individual because of that individual's opinions does not constitute any relevant definition of the term. https://www.ala.org/advocacy/intfreedom/hate

Thats the spirit. F@#% principles. F@#$ intellectual honesty. Its your turn at the trough. Eat up.

So sensitive. Why do you both feel so attacked by a harmless post about consistency and principled positions?

A principled stand on the issue is the best one. Freedom of speech has never meant freedom from consequences, whether you're calling some dude on the subway an N-bomb or celebrating a gruesome murder. But in this age its hard to cry for someone who lacks the judgement not to post something so over the top on their own facebook page. Now public sector "canceling" for matters of freedom of speech is an entirely different matter. I just cannot stand watching the same people who condemn so called "cancel culture" as an existential threat to western society now celebrate it as it suits them.

I am simply observing that once staunch critics of so called "cancel culture" are now celebrating the latest examples. My thoughts on yesterday's tragic murder have already been shared. I've been very consistent on the issue. Have you?

I really hope that people have consistent views on whether or not individuals should be "canceled" for exercising their right of free speech, no matter their political affiliation.

Cancel culture...good?

I guess satanic, pedo, baby eaters and evil communists bent on the destruction of the nation can be considered forms of "misguided", in a sense.

Happy birthday!

During the Rex Ryan year, their Rex Ryan years to be clear, yes. They were better than us, loud, and obnoxious. Feels gross having to clarify which teams Rex Ryan era I am referring to.

What number of twitter likes makes an opinion relevant enough to even give a second thought? How many tens of tweets do you need to see before you feel like you have the pulse on half the nation?

From everything I read, Ogunjobi looked poor in camp and preseason. I don't expect much of anything out of him.

I'm not someone who spends all day dehumanizing those I agree with politically, but thanks for the advice. There are others here who could use your help far more than me. From what I see amplified from Charlie Kirk on twitter, I don't think he and I agree on much but I am mortified by what I saw today. Its a sad day to be an American.

For the most part, this board is full of people who spend most of their waking hours foaming at the mouth about evil, mentally defective, liberals/conservatives who they believe should be the subject to all manner of violent punishments. The guy blaming MSNBC for all political violence in the country is telling me its not the time for any other discussion. He would hate to see a tragedy politicized, I'm sure. I think if any of these people want to claim the moral high ground today or lecture about separating human beings from their political opinions they should be reminded of their role in an ever deteriorating political discourse. Perhaps some self reflection is in order? Once we get to the bottom of whose fault this is, of course.

I agree he is more than his job. But all opinions are not equally controversial or equally divisive. While Charlie is deserving of the same human rights as every other person on the planet, regardless of what any of us may think of his opinions, there is no obligation to separate the man from his opinions. This board hates countless fathers, mothers, brothers, and sisters for their jobs, for their opinions, and for their politics.

You should probably give this another look and make sure you still think this makes sense.

Interesting juxtaposition with the political violence thread. Carry on with the moral authority.

Excellent suggestion. And right down the street is Gene McCarthys which has solid wings and the best fish fry I've had.