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The potential td passes weren't even close to being catchable. Josh and Zay have their own issues. Never said Zay didn't, but this year Josh's issues have cost Zay 3 tds. And today's miss to Zay may have cost us a win.

3 tds vs 6 ints. 5 fumbles with 2 lost and missed Zay on 3 easy tds so far. He's getting better. Today was against a great d no doubt. I think we're going off track, John. If Josh gets those 3 tds to Zay, I don't see how anyone on pace for 12 tds would be considered worse than a ps player. But alas, Josh did miss those easy td throws. JMO.

Rocky, I admitted to be a Zay apologist. Welcome to the party. Late, but welcome anyway. If Zay should have caught Barkely's low pass, same with Beasley. Where's the angst for Josh missing Zay on 3 EASY tds this year?

If Foster comes in and excels, I am as glad as anyone here. Even at Zay's expense. Hope it happens, I wanna win. Zay is doing his best, but to say he wouldn't this or wouldn't that is unfair. He had a decent year last year with crap qb play and crap oline play. And because of Josh missing these throws Zay doesn't lead us in tds. And if he doesn't miss on Zay today, we might have beat n.e.

No one is tracking those missed td passes. They were awful throws. Look, Zay ain't all that. I get it. But if you look at the 3 td misses, there's no denying they are on Josh. 3 potential tds in 4 games is on pace for 12 this year, but Josh just didn't get them there. Don't know if we're talking about the same thing. Zay's not great, I get it, but Josh is making him look bad. AND I LIKE JOSH!

Well, there's that.

Quote: " The passes DO get there.....so there that they are out in front of slow ass Zay Jones". So now your saying he's slow after I pointed out how he's getting open for tds but Josh misses him?

Read your reply to me and tell me you make sense. Show me 3 dropped td passes to zay. They never got there and he was open.

We're 4 games in and Beasely gave up a td with a dropped pass(jets) and dropped another catchable pass that game. He also dropped the exact same low pass from barkley that zay did.

No denials. He's unfairly targeted imo. I like Josh, but he left 3 tds out there to Zay. If you look at film and deny the 3 potential tds, I suggest you take the Josh Allen colored glasses off.

Dude , I gave the 1 thing he asked for. Don't write a check you can't cash.

In the same 3 and out, Brown dropped 1 in his chest and Beasley dropped a low one. Cut them all!!

He agreed not to bring Zay's name up again. For a reason.

For a rookie and 4 games in, I like what I see. Should pick it up over the course of the season. Great pick by the Bills.

Dude the passes have to get there 1st. You see the stats and you can go back to see the horrible throws from Josh to Zay. 3 blown tds. But, ok. He drops them, sure.?

Sure.

Would rather have Mahomes throwing to Zay. Josh: 3tds vs. 6 picks and 5 fumbles(2 lost). In 4 games. Missed Zay on 3 would be tds, in 4 games. He flat out missed an open Zay on those 3. Yep, that all changes with Diggs. Ok.

3 or 4 different threads that should be titled "Zay Jones sucks"? ?

Stop it. I've already said I like Josh and glad we have him. 3tds and 6 picks hasn't changed that. I actually think we'll get a lot better as the season progresses. No agenda. Zay should lead us in tds. Film shows this to be true.

I think we'll gel as an offense as the season progresses. It's a whole new crew, except for Josh, Dion and Zay. We'll be fine if we cut down on turnovers.

Who were Zay's qbs in those 3 years? TT, Peterman and Josh. In spite of that he had a decent year last year. Peterman and a rookie last year. And as I pointed out, this year Josh is the issue. 16 games or not. Zay should be leading us in td, but Josh has thrown him crap in the ez. See the Giants, Bengals and today's game. It's on film, in color.

I'm not saying don't bring up Duke. Duke for Foster would be the better move. I still argue that if he had better qb play by Josh this year, Zay leads the team in tds. Not Brown, not Beasley, but Zay. I don't see how that's missed in all this. Bring up Duke, just for Foster.

Are you referring to the high pass by Barkley? If you think Williams catches that, how do I argue? He hasn't even made it past the ps yet, but you're gonna hypothetically make it a catch for him. If you're referring to the miss by Josh on a wide open Zay, even ps Duke wouldn't make that. I hope Duke makes the team over Jones and lights it up, I really do. I'm a Bills fan, not a Duke hater or Zay lover. Did you read the whole post? Josh has 3 td passes and 1 was a shuffle. Josh also has thrown 6 ints. Watch film of the season so far and tell me if Josh is better, Zay doesn't have at least 3 tds, in 4 games. You can tell me Duke would have more, but again, how do I argue hypotheticals? I have my thoughts and you have yours. Mine are based on what I've seen in real games. And in real games, Josh has left at least 3 tds to Zay go to waste. I don't think you could argue that.

Only 3 td passes in 4 games so far. That's on Josh and Dabol. Announcers have mentioned too many times and have shown open receivers when Josh is holding the ball. It's only 15 or 16 games for Josh, so I'm hopeful he gets better. He should have at least 7 tds by my count. 3 tds in 4 games ain't gonna cut it.

If only Zay could throw it to himself when he's open for a td, he'd have 3 by now. There's a reason the Bills have only 3 td receptions so far, Josh. And 1 of them was a shuffle pass. Josh needs to do better. Unless you're wearing Josh colored sunglasses.