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    Buffalo @ Philadelphia Game Thread - 1st half

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    2 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said:

    Most undisciplined Bills team I’ve ever watched.  Way too many crucial mistakes every game.  Dropped passes, horrible penalties, awful clock management, piss poor decision making all around.  At the end of the day, this is on the HC.  See you later Sean, you're next out the door.

    I’m guessing you started watching this franchise 5 years ago?  
     

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    Beane's draft record - with several players emerging, has your opinion changed at all?

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    Posted · Edited by Dopey

    2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

     

    I didn't say that though, I said we don't know if they still would have gone WR once the big 3 were gone.  They liked Diggs more than the remaining rookie prospects is all we know, and its not like he was wrong about Diggs.  Jefferson may have very well still been the pick.

     

    And you can't blame Beane or any GM for that matter for not knowing Jefferson would be this good, no one knew he would be and that is an impossible thing to know for anyone.  

    He went 22nd. You know who went 21st? WR Jalen Reagor. Drafted by fan favorite of their gm here (Philly). Reagor lasted 2 years in Philly and has bounced around 2 more teams since. Beane would never live that one down if he made that pick. For all the hoopla KC gets, they drafted RB Helaire in the first round of that same draft. Only to have him replaced with a 7th rd rb. All praise to KC for drafting Pacheco here, forgetting (conveniently?) that first round bust of a pick. It happens to every gm. 
    Go Bills and go Beane!!!

    You too McD!!!

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    Beane's draft record - with several players emerging, has your opinion changed at all?

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    9 hours ago, ProcessImproverMan said:

    I'd much rather have John Lynch as a GM (49ers) or the Eagles guy or Chiefs guy...they seem to have hit on more picks and free agents. Their teams have made it to super bowls and not fallen out before like Marty Schottenheimer like teams. 

     

    Rousseau isn't putting up the sack numbers worth the pick on him. Von Miller has been a huge waste. Oliver isn't either and we passed on much better DTs and other positional  players when taking him (Dexter Lawrence was available who is a monster DT, as well as Jaire Alexander (stud corner) and Fred Warner who has been a stud MLB for the 49ers and would have been much better than the failed Edmunds experiment). Elam has been a bust. We took Cody Ford over Metcalf and then had to spend a draft pick to get Diggs which is what Metcalf would have given us (better explosive deep threat). And we took Boogie Basham over Creed Humphrey who is a stud center. And gave up Wyatt Teller. All those moves have been very bad and our offensive line and defense has suffered for it particularly, as well as our explosive deep ball game. 

    Lynch?  Can people here imagine if Beane screwed up drafting a qb like Lynch did. Quote below from an article about it. 
    “Over the 2021, 2022 and 2023 drafts, the 49ers traded 12th, 29th, 101st and 29th picks for the privilege of taking Lance. One of those picks was used to choose Micah Parsons, one of football’s best defensive players.”

    So, he trades a boat load for Lance, Dallas drafts Parsons with one of the picks AND then end up trading him TO DALLAS for a 4th. Somehow Lynch made Jerry look like an actual GM who knows what he’s doing. IMO that’s enough to remove Lynch from that list. Again, what would this place be like if Beane effed up that bad?

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    Beane's draft record - with several players emerging, has your opinion changed at all?

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    Looking at the votes on a few polls, it’s easy to see that the lynch mob is smaller in number than it appears here. The lynch mob is very vocal, though. Way to represent. 

    13 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

    Forget out team record this year (there are a lot of factors in that)...but one silver lining has been we have seen a lot of young players begin to emerge into good to even great players for us this year.  

     

    So I am curious if the emergence of these young players, many of which were written off or not thought much of prior to the start of the season, has impacted people's view of his draft history.  Personally, I already thought Beane had done well in the draft...but he obviously still had his fair share of critics around here. 

     

    Some of those players include:  AJE, Bernard, Benford, Shakir, Cook, Kincaid, O'Cyrus, Dorian, and even Oliver to an extent.  

    • AJE - (2nd round)A long time whipping boy around here despite having a mini breakout last year with 6.5 sacks in a rotational role.  He has become a very good player for us this season already matching his sack total last year and on pace for 10 sacks, plus he has an INT and defensive TD.  
    • Bernard - (3rd round)Labeled a bust by many the moment he was drafted and considered a major liability by most heading into this season.  But he has been one of the defenses best players for this team on the season.
    • Benford - (6th round) Seen as a guy only playing because Elam wasn't ready to winning the 3 way battle and playing like a starting corner.
    • Shakir - (5th round) Disregarded by many just because he fell to the 5th round, falsely labeled by many of not having good hands mostly because of one tough catch in the playoff last year.  Now he is becoming a staple in the offense with his snap count rising from 10% week 1 to now 80% nearly this week.  Has the best catch rate on the team.  
    • Cook - (2nd round) Considered a change of pace 3rd down back with little value as a featured runner.  Currently 2nd in the NFL in rushing yards despite Dorsey's struggle with consistently involving him and looking like a long term important player for this offense right now.
    • Kincaid - (1st round) He did have a lot of hype, but was too early to know, but he is proving that hype is legit and now the 2nd best receiving weapon on the team.  
    • O'Cyrus - (2nd round) Instant starter and while he has had some rookie struggles, he has really made an impact on the OL for the most part. 
    • Oliver - (1st round) Most were against his extension, now he not only is proving he was worth it, he has become one of the elite DT's in the NFL this year under McD's defense.  

     

    So has this impacted your view of his draft history seeing these guys really start to emerge and breakout this year?  

     

    NOTE:  I think AJE, Cook, and O'Cyrus play is getting to the point that the old "Beane can't draft in the 2nd round" criticism is headed for retirement.  

     

    For the record, my vote was:

    B Grade

    A Grade

    Better

    How dare you 💩 on the lynch mob?!?

    No one gets a chance to develop here. Didn’t you get the memo?  
    I’m with you %100. 

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    Bills Jets brawl in tunnel after the game.

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    On 11/20/2023 at 1:22 AM, mrags said:

    I think Dawkins was just pissed off after Clemons told him that he was going to eat all the left over Paula’s Doughnuts from halftime. Of course the fat tub of crap Dawkins had an issue with it. 

    Yeah, it’s a helluva lot easier to say that here as opposed to saying it to the fat tub of crap that’ll kick your ass. Good job, tough guy. 
    My bad, keyboard tough guy. 

    Singletary & Moss both look much better on new teams

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    1 hour ago, Mister Defense said:

    Yup, and  it took Houston  a little too long to realize what they have in Singletarry--their starter, a workhorse, one of the best running backs in the league at protecting the quarterback, a team player, never complaining, and someone who gets better and better the more you feed him the ball

     

    And he is always available.

     

    Now, watch to see if Houston is smart enough to let Motor run and run, providing Houston with a missing element of the offense, just like he did so well with the Bills in the middle of the 2021 season.  The Bills became the best rushing team in the league during that stretch, propelling the entire offense, and Josh Allen, to their best play ever, championship caliber.

     

    If Dorsey was not as incompetent as he is, he would have ridden Motor last year and not let him go this year.

     

    Ridden him to what? We were 2nd in the league in scoring last season in points per game. Also, do you really think it was Dorsey who let him go? 😂😂

     

    Allen Can’t Run!

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    1 hour ago, AlfaBill said:

    Ban this troll please mods?

    Why? 
    The OP stated:

    “Here it is, my unqualified, unstudied, “gut feeling” revelation for the day:”

    So, if you don’t like his post, he’s a troll? You can easily just move on or create a “Josh excuses “ thread. Although there was one created after Josh single handily lost the Jets game. 

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    McDermott weird comments about Josh Allen

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    2 hours ago, GoBills808 said:

     

    I mean to me, and maybe it's the confirmation bias talking so take it fwiw, this sounds exactly like getting the narrative out there that the offense is the root cause of all the issues. Because it can't be the defense. Because McDermott's in charge of the defense.

    Have you been watching these last few games? He's not wrong.

    Firing Dorsey did not solve Bills' number 1 problem: Sean McDermott (damning Warren Sharp article)

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    5 hours ago, Peter said:

    McCoach blathers on about "accountability" but that apparently is a hollow word when he looks in the mirror.

     

    McCoach has thrown others under the bus to deflect from his own issues. I hope Terry makes McCoach accountable.

     

    After all, we can say that firing McCoach was part of the "process."

     

    Karma is a B--ch.

    McCoach!?!? Really!?! What are you, 8 years old?

    I wish all this juvenile name calling would end already. Bunch of clowns. 
    Sincerely, 

    McDopey. 

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    Mike Norvell - the coach you didn't know you wanted

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    Posted · Edited by Dopey

    On 11/14/2023 at 8:00 PM, LeGOATski said:

    I get all the of the frustration and wanting to move on from this coaching staff. I advocated for firing Dorsey, but would rather keep McDermott.

     

    However, if you're not like me and want a new HC, I've got just the man for you:

     

    Mike Norvell

     

    I've followed him since he started coaching at ASU (my alma mater). He made their offense legit. Then he went on to be the head coach of Memphis, turning them into a successful team and making the NFL think Paxton Lynch was draftable. Then he goes to FSU and turns them back into an undefeated championship contender.

     

    He's an offensive coach, which a lot of Bills fans are clamoring for. He's signed with FSU through 2029, but we know how that goes ...

     

    This is the HC you didn't know you wanted.

    As an FSU fan:

    leave his name out your ?$@@& mouth!!

    He’s staying put. 

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    The elephant in the room that there is no thread about - Josh Allen has a severe turnover problem

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    1 hour ago, Mango said:

    Ok, I hear what your saying and that is a good idea. 

    But one thing I am so confused about is the turnovers. I get the sense these are bad. And when we have them, we lose more. I wonder if they have tried asking him to stop? 

    Has anybody asked somebody on the team if they maybe tried asking him to stop? Who is the asker I need to ask to do the asking of Josh to stop doing the thing? 

    Diggs.

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    Sal Capaccio - Why so angry?

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    20 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

    It's 10 games into 2023 and he's still gassing up McDermott for this great culture he's built. 

     

    Like nobody else in America could have done this with the Bills. 

    It did take like 20 years to get where we are. But, yeah, anyone can do this job. :doh:

     

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    [Vague Title] Worst part for me:

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    6 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

    I needed that man...and you're right. We need to all take a deep breath and re-evaluate the important things in life. Family, friends,  retirement,  golf, less stressing over this team.  We have no control.  Most players don't listen anyway,  they're after the bag.

    AND... we have 7 games left in the season. We were 7-6 during the 2021 season, went on a run and had that epic playoff game vs. KC. Different circumstances, I know, but there's hope. I sat through consecutive 2-14 seasons and watched every game. Why would this version keep me away?

    7 hours ago, Ray Stonada said:


    You talk a lot of sense, Dopey.

    If I could do a thank you along with the laugh, I would. :beer:

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