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Well he plays safety now and yes I would love to see him starting over Searcy for us. This guy still wants big $$$.

This is the first I've heard of this comparison.

Smartest thing you've said in this thread. lol at "semantics" and "underwhelming." The man has had two career starts, and his performance in both has been extraordinary (He almost beat the Pats in his 1st start and his 2nd game with 6 TDs would be record-breaking I believe). I don't think anyone is questioning his performance in his starts. The knock on him is that there isn't enough tape to tell if he's for real - and that's the big question here and my biggest concern. He's not as good as Aaron Rogers and Russell Wilson, that's all we can infer from his current backup status.

Uggghh. Everything in your post is heavily skewed toward your opinion of not wanting Flynn. Fine. Just say that then. As someone else mentioned, he didn't "lose his job" - it was an open competition. He got beat out by a rookie that went on be a Pro Bowl QB. Wait I thought they "jettisoned" him, which implies he was cut? His contract was up and although I'm certain Green Bay would love to have him, he wasn't going to re-sign to be a backup. Also GB wasn't going to pay him the starter money another team would to sit the bench. I don't know, why would we give up a high draft pick and waste our time with [insert college QB]?

Please explain this comment "At the time the switch was made, Wilson was a rookie and not a pro-bowler." So in your mind, Wilson wasn't playing at a Pro Bowl level until they announced that he made the Pro Bowl??? what???? My point is your hyperbole is hysterical. Jettisoned by his second team? Is that the other one with a Pro Bowl QB? Or is he an All Pro?

Makes sense.

That's just not true.

Wow. Probably 80% of college spread offenses only require their QB to read half the field. Pass plays are designed so the QB has a primary and secondary, and the emergency bailout RB. No long read progression, it's simply 1-2-bail. This has been one of the biggest knocks on college spread QBs over the past 5 years. It's one thing to argue in favor of a player you like, it's another to spout complete BS. Here's some suggested reading - Evaluating Quarterbacks.

I don't see how anyone who watches college football regularly could ever say "Geno Smith has everything that a team is looking for." That's absolutely ludicrous. He solely plays out of a spread formation and doesn't take snaps from under center. I guess the fantasy football crowd probably thinks that's no big deal - "Heck, how hard could it be to take 3 steps back, right?" Let's also overlook the fact that the Airraid scheme in WV only teaches a QB to focus on reading half of the field. With all the underneath throws and wide open receivers, there's a legitimate concern that after 3 years at QB he still can't properly cycle through his read progressions. Bah, who cares right? I mean 42TDs and 6 INTS guys!!! That will certainly translate to the NFL! How's he perform with a pass rush on him? Well that's hard to say as well, because he rarely faced a pass rush in college. I'm not going to argue these points - it's too difficult when the subject is so adored, but they are valid concerns. I will however completely rain on your parade with this tidbit - Jeff Lurie personally attended Smith's Pro Day, only the 2nd time in his 19 year ownership of the Eagles that he has done that (Donovan McNabb was the other). So forget about him at 8, and sorry but no, this isn't the "complete package QB" that a team trades up for.

Ahhh, the old Fitzpatrick-Brees comparison. The talking heads on ESPN are always comparing the two.

We're going to say he's the same damn QB that Fitz was, only he costs about $9M less per year. He'll be just as good at throwing 2 yard screens to Spiller and watching him run 60+ yards, and he'll be just as good throwing useless TD's when losing by 40 points.

Fitz was the master at carving up 2nd string defenses that stop blitzing. But hey, it says 20+TDs on his stat line!

That compact, snap release is gorgeous. It really allows him to rip it regardless of what position his feet are in. That alone will probably vault him into the 3rd-4th round. I think he would be a great project.

If that were true everyone that works out could be a major league pitcher.

Cannot believe the lack of respect for Manny Lawson from this board

Yeah, why haven't the BIlls fixed QB, WR2, TE, SS, LB, CB by day four of free agency? Dude, I could totally fill those holes with ease on my fantasy team.

Yeah we've got a disconnect here. I want them to re-sign Byrd long term. My anger was directed at the Bucs for recklessly throwing around cash and driving up the FS market, thinking Byrd is going to want what Goldson got ($22M guaranteed is pretty hefty). I would prefer we didn't pay him that much, but we may have to now. Someone else made the comment to "negotiate with Byrd now" and I thought that would be unlikely. I would assume they would sign all FAs and draft picks first, assess the books, then negotiate a long-term deal with Byrd - which would probably be over the summer ala Freddy Jackson. EDIT: ahh ok I get it now. When Maddog69 said "Plenty of good safeties available at far more reasonable prices" he was implying we jettison Byrd. I thought you meant it was a forgone conclusion that we tagged him for 1 year and he's gone. I was responding to that part, meaning I don't think we let him walk, and will get a long-term deal done this summer. I need a beer now. Last year the cutoff date was July 16, so around that time. Absolutely, I agree.

I don't possibly see how you could compare the two. Golson is a FS and Scott was used as a LB. Even when Scott was playing nickel DB years ago he wasn't in the same league as Goldson. All this tells me is a) don't believe everything you read on Twitter and b) stats not used in proper context (i.e.tackles) are meaningless. Byrd is probably the #1 FS in the entire league, he didn't allow a single TD in coverage last year. I don't think so. I expect them to give him a similar contract probably sometime over the summer (they will wait until all rookies and FAs are signed then open negotiations).

Title should say highest paid FREE safety.

According to Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network, Goldson's deal is worth $41.25 million over 5 years and includes $22 million in guaranteed money. Grrrr you suck Tampa, a gazillion in cap space and they're handing out blank checks. This is not going to help us negotiate with Byrd...

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It doesn't work like that, this isn't a fairy-tale world. There is no way on earth Levitre's agent is going to agree to a deal when he's 1 year away from being the top available UFA at his position and aligned for the biggest payday in his life. Despite what lip service you may have believed from Andy, his intention all along was to test FA.

As I mentioned in your other thread, losing a backup quality QB and a guard does not constitute a "total rebuild." The only lie you were fed was the one told by yourself over and over. There was zero chance of us paying Fitz $10M, sorry you didn't see that but the sour grapes routine is way over the top.

Wow that's impressive, you just criticized the GM for not signing big name players and within 1 sentence criticized the GM for signing big name players.