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Morris is a fine blocker and why he is on the team. He is very underrated as a pass catcher hes more a slot receiver than a TE. We shall see how he develops, and or how he is used. One of my favorite draft picks for bills in a long time. They are different species of TEs But Knox has been the best all around TE we have had in decades. period

The offense needed to grow. Build the running game. use TEs. Screens sweeps checkdowns quick hits. RB out of the backfield. Stop with the shotgun and five wide bs. Not sustainable for Allen's health. Just because they messed it doesnt mean the concept was wrong. Allen still can dump the ball off short for some reason. we all see the open guys while Josh pats the ball waiting poor kids a mess by now do away with that damned shotgun ! and the shotgun draw we saw dorsey go back to it late in the game last sunday. Pink Floyd ?

well maybe What has actually occurred is that Defense Coordinators have figured out the Offense, and the Offense has no retort. Its really that simple

I thought they gave Josh the gift of keeping Dorsey and the promotion. No wonder Chad Hall left. And here we are with Josh likely regretting his influence on McBeanes But yes , change need to come for Allen to become all he can be. it aint gonna happen with the status quo.

getting to the next play slowly is frustrating. It should be a sequence of events with options . Does this mean Dorsey etc are reacting to defenses as compared dictating ? Seeing the play clock at or near zero last week was a concern, Agreed C3 , pace is an issue. Which leads me to think communication is at the heart of it. Confusion is showing on both sides of the ball actually. aaarggh

On any sunday thats why we watch the game

I cant agree with the range. But i do agree the range varies each week. One of our biggest gripes is wishing to see a more steady Josh. Cerebral even. But then folks are unpleased he is playing what the defense gives him. And thats when the Dorsey blame (for me ) fires up. Give Josh direction along with accountability, and create opportunities for success more often during the game. Some games I have watched , I absolutely wondered where his head was at. Also still see him growing into a more responsible owner mostly he might need 5 more years to get us to the Promised Land though arrrggh

I might suggest , you have to be able to set those plays up with other plays to preface. And motion might be a better way to get there. O Line is much improved , no question. But still 5 wide is a hard core play call and you better have a hot read (or two)

I am not sold on Dorsey still Some improvement ? Yes But adjusting and getting those down to the field are not showing up For context as some have mentioned , we do have a ton of at least mid level talents and much of it is above. and a few are Top Level. yet Bills offense does not play up to their potential it seems Josh can say whatever he needs to. lets see some consistent drives where defenses are adjusting to the Offensive gains for a full quarter again. I am sure its everyone on the team who can take some blame. But it still looks like the play calls and execution are lacking. Dorsey has to own that. and the McD has to own all of it

Damn you Dave ! But yea. Great pickup by Beane. I love the three headed monster at RB btw.

On a slightly different perspective. I think McBeanes and Dorsey need to better plan how to use the types of talent and skill sets they brought in. Seems to be a slight disconnect there. the rotation at RB seemed to be a real asset for a game or two in the run game. Lets get the pass catcher doing what they do best. Davis has a skill set that might be better served, if we involve the others. Allowing the offense to dictate a bit more. I feel a good few passes are forced plays , by Allen and Ken , when they may need to look at the third or fourth check to find the soft spots. Keep poking around till they find it. Since they have a run game available now, defenses should have to play a tad more honestly in the pass game. And we have seen that with some nice one on ones running routes. Davis has a role. We just need to get everyone more involved to create the proper match ups, and then see them Post Snap.

But i do need to upgrade my Football acumen , without question

yes. he needs perhaps, to combine horizontal and vertical out of the condensed. And even a curl to force a defend to choose to run or stop to play over the route. Yes its noticable and why i questioned is it poor route running , understanding of the timing with the route or just a poor play call . i dont understand why i too see this happening

Then why. Asking for a friend, why dont they know the calls and assignments" thats what I pay them for gosh dangit all But seriously How do you need three years to learn your assignments? You dont its a Communication breakdown https://www.google.com/search?q=communicatio+breakdown+led+zeppelin&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS932US932&oq=communicatio+breakdown+led+zeppelin&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCTE4NTU4ajBqN6gCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:2ab695e3,vid:3EH7QMVnSRI,st:0

and not always open. Mostly doubled and still makes plays I would like Kincaid to become the second most viable threat for defenses to attend to. That way Allen can go through a few progressions and find Quinton Morris in the End zone more often or Cook or Murray or .......

This. These question are really getting to the heart of wtf is going on. Seriously Turk. Thanks for asking and pointing out Good root cause thinking Its been going on for a few seasons and thought Kromer would have fixed this along with Fire Dorsey and Josh. Does appear the adjustments might be poorly communicated. So who owns it

You can see its a new Member just trying to acclimate right ? Could have left that comment in your pocket for one of our more frequently repetitive posters How a bout a "welcome to the Boards , you fg idiot" or something nice ?

Go Bills

Good dialogue here and some fine banter indeed !

One of them should be. We already see he can track the ball ! Then lets get him under center doing 3 and 5 step drops with PA. and offer him the route running the can exploit his skillset

And prat tell where will these all come from ? When someone of his quality is avaialble at a price we can afford ? You make the call and kick them tires Period Not an If Or question here i dont feel. Now if we could get Surtain Heck yes ! ! I would trade a good few players and a draft pick or two. Not happening though So take what the good football Lords offers when it stares you in the face LOL

Yep. Being literal. and yes you get it. Glad you and The Dad dig that stuff 👍

Imagine if one of them was Kincaid ?

W/L ? THis subject makes me something something crazy ! I do not understand why Bills hate TEs since forever. The answer to winning is right there. It really is. and using Cook/Hines as a pass catcher. Geesh I miss Scott Chandler

yep if the majic 8 ball says yes ? Then i vote up AYE on Frank. Cant have too many pass rushers. and yes he can move around so there