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we shall see. Certainly is was not just us critical fans ? Who felt the O Line had stepped a half yard back off the line of scrimmage since Roman and Lynn left ?> they had moments but were not consistent. and PP was a fright each time Taylor dropped back for me. Sure we can call you out later for being wrong. But i suspect there will be no need.

all of the above. My opinion has changed about Kelvin. I thought he needed a haircut and healthier knees when Bills brought him in ! Not a fan of the pick and had many questions about Benjamin. Benefit of the doubt speaking here. Bills were looking at WR after Matthews went to poo nearly immediately ? Perhaps Bills knew he would need recovery time for KB , would limp through the last bit of the season. But was a focus for the future.setback for off line recovery time he had no time to learn the play book and was again injured. setback for route running and confidence building for he and Tyrod or Peterman. Easy for Defense to key on him. setback as he was getting handled off the line. Tyrod was falling apart with his passing game.setback no pass threat to balance the field Good news His condition and the few reports say he looks quicker leaner ( !) and running healthy. Makes me think his attitude is right. Good way to start the season. maybe a minority voter but , i think he might have been a good investment ? now add two more Mr Beanes please. best you can do is pick up depth at this point. And players who would have made a team but for too much talent at the position are the ones you might look for. or projects Bills have some money but i don't feel they are pursuing any one of great note. as some have mentioned, O line might well be improved overall when it shakes out

good post every bit ! But I want to focus on the bolded bit you posted. It was tough reading he kept taking reps at LT as i so wanted him to to succeed Mills asap I like Groy on the field. not sure why he could not make it last year. Hope he beats out Bodine. Hope Newhouse is serviceable or better. Hope Teller is a gem ! And glad John Miller looks to be trending back up. I do like him at guard. bet shady does too Because he did not use Groy or Miller at RG and kept Mills out there to get beat in PP. Maybe that ? Hey ! Watch out cheering for them jets mister ! 1st time HC for McD. he had to start somewhere. Castillo? still watching that one .. key is how one recovers from a mistake imho. McBeanes got the Guy they may have wanted all along in Brian D. ps I am a big fan of Dion !

Spot on about how they should use Ivory. Shady is at his best with tired LBs on the field. He just need to juke one to get the first down. Cadet is nice option to drop in. Hope he can remain healthy. Thats was tough injury last year. I expected Bills to grind Tolbert and just use him up between tackles. wear em down kinda option. Guess that box being stacked each week was the end of that idea

No please don't even do the math. Much like Badoll learned to dig this guy. Bills need to be much smarter how they used him last year. keep in mind how he performed the passing game last year? he was the passing game

That story about Earl is just a bummer. Such a great player ! I suspect Ivory will get more and better reps than Tolbert did. And in a healthy cadet and a meager enough passing and Shadys reps should drop but improve. Hated to see him getting buried last year with runs that just were not going to open up. Have become a big Fan of LeShady ! I hope he can retire a Bill after he hits his 12,000 and we make a string of Playoffs + That's our hope ! and the O Line will come together sooner than later under Daboll. Good point about last years circumstances for running the ball. Playcalling for Shady will likely decide his longer term health and fate. Dude can break one open anytime with a bit of help. But to Biscuits point, I do agree at this point L McCoy might have tough time if the blocking and passing game do not step up in general over last season

Plenty good folks here Pops ! you included !

agreed. Kaepernick is no longer about Football either. we can all consider his career over. By his choice or not, or a combination ? I do like how Beane thinks in regard to Team building. as i suspected. Anyone coming to the Bills from herein will be of heart, focus and discipline.

I saw what you saw.

thanks for more context White Linen !

Maybe Tom is getting soft in his old age. I just find it hard to see Dareus showing up five minutes early to meetings and practice. Marroon kind of a s stick up the bum kind of fellow as well. maybe best thing for Marcel ? Hope so

I understand : ) I also was surprised where Dareus went !

My argument is financials . Moving Dareus when Bills did. They already had sunk money into him. Moving Ragland and Darby on rookie contracts. Maybe one more year to turn them ? But i respect decisive action. Go Bills

picking nits at something yet to be shown, All in fun i expect. I was glad Bills went for a QB and how they went about it. at this point we just have to trust they picked a Kid they feel they can develop. Seems so already ? if they need to go for it again ? So be it. And Draft is not the only way to get there. shucks, Nick Foles might shake free ....

ME TOO !

Eagles have done it more than once and more recently. Broncos attempted to hedge it as well under Elway. good post

I cannot argue why Dareus was traded. My comment was if McBeane had drafted him he could and should be accountable for his success. Because he inherited him his stake was less.. next question might be ? Would McD have drafted him ? and would he and Beane been able to keep him in line ? i think no to the second question and a likely no to the first. It was the right thing to do as you mention, moving on No question I am just a fan whos watches the games and follows the team. and i have no idea why Bills did not upgrade as soon as possible. was that player Dawkins ? and fate turned on that plan? : ) and yes, it has been awhile since i whiffled

Hell of a football player, good Man as well. wish him well

welp i am gonna have to report ya. spot of the foul. repeat down 3rdand12

Thanks 26 Muchos gracias !

Can we also consider that McD inherited players. He scrubbed them over in his way and felt they would not work out long term in his method of Building His Team. I feel more aligned in between you fellows. If ya draft him ? He's your baby. If you raise him wrong ? Its on you. No question for me on that Both of you are correct. It's always a cop out by me , but context makes every case unique. like why Mills whiffed all those times. deep diving tells you whys and wherefores

that's one comment about it. Came out after folks were questioning the timing i thought ? Two Baseball Agents representing him. Wonder how much longer this story will carry on .

fair thought ALF. does anyone recall how many times White played man press with little or no help ? Gaines seemed on and off the field with health, so i imagine Frazier coverage packages had to take that into account. Nice try Pops ! Thats My line !

Just an Old Coot with a two cent opinion Old Time. Beane has surprised me before though. Suppose we have to trust Bills are and have been doing their homework on these Kids. Finding gems is rare quality. If Beanes scouts start hitting on them with any frequency ? Was a fun draft ! But i feel they have some more spots they wish to fill and or improve upon. Thanks OldTime : )

I would doubt anyone will give up a second rd for this kid. A 3rd is pushing it. and he is likely not going to produce much this year, just guessing. But missing this much time with Bills already ?? I consider fourth round where you can take those risks and hope to at least get a backup or Teams player. But who are the backups to play outside if Davis or White go down for any length of time ? That's an issue worth mentioning in this discussion