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O.K. You memory hounds, when was the last time the Bills signed their own CB to a long term contract after their initial 4-5 year contract?
I THINK the answer is never unless you guys go back into the 80's or 70's. And even way back then the answer may still be never. I sure can't remember one. (Odomes, Burris, Thomas, and Winfield are the last four I recall as being allowed to sign with different teams)
This bodes POORLY for the Bills (in terms of retaining Nate's ervices) unless you feel (like I have for quite a while) that overpaying for CB's is a mistake - they can be replaced by younger men on the cheap.
Nate IS a cut above the others though I will grant you. Why? He consistently plays well defensively, seldom gets beat and has great hands near the football. So, IMO, IF the Bills do break with "tradition", then this is the guy to do it with. But c'mon folks, let's face it, Winfield's contract was RIDICULOUS. Nate's is better than Antoine. Therefore, he expects a better contract.
My prediction based on Bills and league history is that he is gone after this season.
SOOOOOOO, here's hoping he has a career year with 14 int's and is named to the Pro Bowl as a starter.
Plus, a brand new Super Bowl ring on his finger
I bet he wouldn't have signed for anything last year. I highly doubt Clements was even willing to sign an extention last year. Why would he?GM's don't have the choice to re-sign anyone they want anytime they want. There actually has to be some desire from the other side.
Last year Clements was heading into his first year as a number one CB. Other than injury, there was no way he wasn't going to up his value.
This goes for all the other guys on the team everyone wants to sign before their contract expires. This is not Madden.
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Nick - I am pretty sure Tim was injured in preseason and was placed on the IR, so your comment about him being inactive doesn't make sense. IOW, he was hurt and couldn't be activated. I'm right aren't I?
My recollection as to preseason is that the Bills were high on the guy. I don't recall any great plays but I might have missed something.
As to his weight, again I would have to see what his weight is at camp in the next few weeks since his injury and his young age both may have been factors.
As to your comment about Edwards: I absolutely recall the great game he had against the Fish , I think we also had something like 5 INTs that game. But other than that game Edwards was silent UNTIL last season when he started to make some noise.
I have no idea who will win the DT battle but I H-O-P-E it is Anderson since I think I know what we wil get from Edwards (competent DT play with flashess of the great). Anderson made the scouts drool coming out of college. I am hoping they hit the jackpot.
Go Bills!
-RichNJoisy
Ok having read this - my take on the Edwards/Anderson situation is this: Ron Edwards should be the starter until Anderson proves he can step up.I know the Bills are high on him, but not to get on the field last season really leads me to question how well developed a guy like him might be. He was inactive for many games - and is only 300lbs. He might have upside - but us fans really haven't seen any of that. I'd have to go back and see how he performed in pre-season last year to evaluate him as a raw rookie - but Edwards has show me he has got some skills to perform.
Remember back to the Snow Bowl - Edwards blew up in the backfield spectacularly to knock Ray Lucas out of the game. He had some very good games partnering Pat Williams in 2003 and I think deserves to be the lock at DT next to the Keg until Anderson shows his worth.
The only problem I see here is that Anderson is light at 300, and Ron Edwards is a pass rushing DT, so we really don't know how well these guys are going to do against the run.
My money is on Edwards to be the better DT for the first period of the year.
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The over/under on McGahee is amazing! These are from people who do this for a living. They are clearly trying to get a lot of people to take the under to assure a 50/50 split (in other words, they predict if they set the over/under at 1400 yards, too many people would take the over)
Remember - this is gambling which is just as much a measure of REALITY as it is to PERCEIVED REALITY
Now, on the other hand, JP at on 15 td's appear on the surface to be depressing but remember again that the majority by far expect JP to suck tghis year and STILL the # td passes is only 5 less than Drew threw last year.
My predictions
JP over 15 td's
JP over 15 ints
McGahee over 1500 yds
McGahee over 12 tds
Nate under 6 ints
schobel over 10 sacks
Bills over 8 wins
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/stor..._len&id=2111098
So, the DE who would attack JP from the backside is out and may miss the Bills game (week 3)
Plus, the Falcons starting DT Coleman MAY end up being suspended.
Can't hurt. can't hurt
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Like you, I have concerns about this OL quickly becoming a dependable unit. They have new players in there (again) that will need to adjust to McNally's coaching philosophy, just as their teammates will have to adjust to their strengths/weaknesses. I go into yet another preseason being "cautiously optimistic" about the line's development.
I also think the article has to be taken w/ a grain of salt, since it's coming from the team's website @ a time when fans have concerns w/ the line. Here's where my 'cautious optimism' comes in again. I'll reserve judgment until we have had ample time to see them in action.............and I'll pray that we have nothing but praise to heap on them.
Hi there Rich!
You are obviously correct to take the source (bb.com) into consideration when attempting to predict how the OLine will do.
The facts DO point towards a more optimistic conclusion:
1.) Unlike last year, Bike Mike is reportedly in great shape and there are no emotional issues (last year he was upset over the death of his grandmother) to deal with.
2.) Villarial, Teague and Williams are now entering year 2 in playing together with McNally as their line coach
3.) McNally is considered one of the best if not the best OLine coach in the league. He now has a second year to work with most of these guys
4.) Anderson is undoubtedly a step up from Smith and Tucker at LG. He may be only average at pass protection but he now has McNally as his coach...yada yada yada
The big question mark, IMO, is how does Gandy compare to Jennngs? I feel Jennings was an average LT who SF way overpaid for. Last year WAS Jennings best year however. You can bank on him playing worse this year AND being out at least 3 games due to injuries. McNally believes Gandy is serviceable. We'll see.
Finally, having a QB who can move around can be a huge help to the line not only due to the obvious (he can avoid sackers) but also because he can FAKE rollout passes and force the linemen and LB's to hesitate on BOTH run plays and pass plays. This gives the RB's, WR's AND OLIne an extra second to work with. THAT IS AN ETERNITY.
That's my assessment - thus I am definitely optimistic.
-RnJ
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O.K. Nick, I'll bite: What is so magical about 3 pm today? Just something "in your bones" or do you actually know something?
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I don't know about you but if the Bills complete the trade AND THEN sign Verba, I will have completed a total turnaround evaluation of the offseason (from "most boring" to "exciting")
Let the game begin!
Is it Sunday Yet?
WINGS!!!!
(the top three chants of the week at "Bills Central" - Home of the CNJBBB)
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As I posted a LONG time ago: Don't play poker with TD, you'll lose
Great job Mr. D.
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Now, what will he do with that extra $1.25 mil in his pocket?
Is the phone ringing at Mr Verba's house right now? Hmmmmmmmm
This call for some Hot Wings (sorry fezmid
)RichNJoisy
CNJBBB
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Your points are well-made FFS. Anderson is, without much doubt IMO, an upgrade.
Losing Jennings MAY hurt but he was WITHOUT A DOUBT way overpaid for by the 49ers.
The O-Line play definitely improved as the season progressed last year. That had to be a function somewhat of McGahee's presence helping the offense as a whole click but only a very careful analysis can determine how much the overall imp. of the O was due to line play (I am a big football fan but not THAT much of one to spend time evaluating this!
)Fans love to banter and spout their opinions as experts (I am as guilty as the next guy) but I am willing to grant the Bills front office the edge in evaluating talent. Having said this, I would be thrilled if the Bills sign Verba to a relatively cheap deal. If they sign him, he must be good right (heh heh
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interesting article, thanks but they don't mention what it will take to "close the deal" which is, obviously, matching Tennessee's offer at the very least (a solid third). It MAY take a conditional third (promoting to a 2nd).
cough it up Jacksonville
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Looks like his agent Hadley is trying to dictate a deal. I recall someone on the wall saying a drunken Engelhard after a game running off at the mouth about how he was going to screw the Bills. Well, he could be stalling contract extension talks with the Titans in order to force a deal to the Jags, since Tenn presumably won't complete the trade unless they have an extension in place.
The 3rd from Tenn is better than a 3rd from Jax in that it will likely be at the top of the round as opposed to Jax, as well as not helping a team that will be competing for a playoff spot this year. I could see his dumbass agent screwing this one up, and I hope Donahoe doesn't end up giving TH to the Jags just because TH agent won't make a deal with Tenn. If he gets stubborn, we could see Jax drop out and be stuck with Henry even longer, with no competition for Tenn to bid against.
God I'll be glad when this is FINALLY over!
Let's not get paranoid.
MONEY is the key here and, all "strutting" and talking aside, that is what this will come down to for Travis. IF the Titans want to beat out the Jaguars, they will have to not only work out the trade with Buffalo but alos work out a deal with Travis' agent. Engelhard is in this for the money. Period. If Tennessee comes up with equal or better money to the Jaguars, then he will convince Henry , "it's for the best". Travis, meanwhile, proably prefers Jacksoville (closer to home) but more $$$ will get his attention since, in reality, that is all he is truly interested in.
The Bills are not in much of a hurry unless they think they can sign another FA with the cap room a Travis trade clears up. The Jags and Titans and henry, however, ARE in a hurry. Sooooo, the Bills can wait until their demands are met and Travis and the offering team agree on a contract.
Relax, this poker game is going fine for us.
-RnJ
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I plan to grab him in the 1st round of the 8-team league I am in (none of them Bills fans heh heh)
I expect the draft to go like this:
Tomlinson, Holmes, Alexander, Portis, and then maybe McGahee
-RnJ
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This whole situation reminds of me of my fishing theory. It goes like this:
Fishing is inherently an activity completely bereft of anything even resembling excitement. It only seems to be exciting. Fishing is like stepping into a sensory deprivation tank so that anything that happens, anything at all, seems exciting. Thus holding on to a string which is occasionally tugged by a mindless, mercury ridden fish seems like a trip to Vegas. The TH news is like that. The off season is a football deprivation tank into which we have all been immersed. Anything that happens, any tid bit of football news actually seems exciting in our deprived state of mind numbing football-less-ness.
My God Mickey your analogy reeks of someone who needs constant stimulation. Your comparison of "excitement" to "trip to vegas" fits in perfectly. I certainly can undersatnd what you are saying but I don't happen to agree with it. To help you understand, try replacing the word "exciting" with "enjoyable".
Thus SOME people (not you evidently find fishing ENJOYABLE while others (such as yourself) find it BORING. SOMEpeople ENJOY going camping, others enjoy going to Vegas.
You couldn't pay me to use my free time in a casino. You, on the other hand, apparently would have to be roped and thrown physically into a rowboat or canoe to ever get you to go out into nature.
Different strokes for ......
As to the Henry news: Fine. You're bored. To the rest of us, the idea of FINALLY ending the Travis henry era in Buffalo AND getting a decent draft pick IS exciting to SOME of us.
sigh
Good luck in Vegas Mickey. I hope you win but , more importantly, I hope you have fun.
watching the red-tailed hawks out my window (which I find exciting)
RichNJoisy
www.cnjbbb.org
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Green Bay could match anyway but if a deal could have been struck that the Bills could meet but the Pack could not.......grrrrrr
From FF.Mastermind.com:
The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports transitioned free-agent TE Bubba Franks has yet to sign an offer from another team and has until July 22 to do so. After that date, he can either sign the tender offer for one year at $2.095 million or negotiate a long-term deal with the Packers. Thus far, things have been very quiet on the Franks front. With just a week left for him to sign an offer with another team, things could heat up. The Packers have the right to match any offer another team would give Franks, but if they chose not to match the offer, they would not receive any compensation. Assuming Franks is back with the Packers - and they simply can't afford to lose him at this point - the tight end position should be solid.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/stor..._len&id=2093822
Check out the article which confirmed this - The "in-between" conjecture is somewhat confirmed but the article also mentions the jag coaches lauding the work of " two young backs, third-year pro LaBrandon Toefield and 2005 fourth-round draft choice Alvin Pearman, and expressed confidence the two could successfully fill in if Taylor's recovery is prolonged."
I think the jags were unwilling to use another draft pick on a RB, were hoping for good news on taylor (which seems crazy to me given the severity of his injury), AND - and this may be the key point - were hoping to get Henry on-the-cheap as a further safety valve.
It looks like this is going to work out for the Bills, perhaps for Henry , and for the jaguars. The holdup may actually be TD trying to get a conditional 3rd rounder. The 3rd rounder straight up seems all but assured now IMO. The conditional one WILL happen if the Jags wait too long and another team loses their starter during the preseason (not THAT unlikely a scenario).
-RnJ
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For the umpteenth time folks - Taylor reported a few weeks ago that he had two torn ligaments which were operated on last December! There is no way he will be ready to play by September let alone mid July. Not to mention Taylor was injury prone anyway. The Jags front office lied stating it was only a 'scope so the Taylor announcement (which the Jaguars front office admitted was true) was BIG news. Do ANY of you know of ANY player who has come back from this type of surgery in 7-9 months? The standard recovery time is one year to be able to play and two years to be 100%.
In the next few weeks, Taylor will begin to run around and prove to them that he is - at best - at 50% which would be pretty good just 7 months after a double reconstruct. If the Jags go into the season depending on Taylor then they are nuts.
The Jags will cough up the 3rd rounder.
richNjoisy
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So like the topic title says I was talking to a friend who happens to be a Lions fan and he was very insistent that for the Bills this would be a season where the Bills win in the range of 6 games. He kept on insisting that because JP is only in his second season and this is his first season starting that the Bills will struggle. He raises a good point, as very few quarterbacks come in and are succesful right away. There are the obvious exceptions Marino, Roethlisberger and also I thought Byron Leftwhich was solid as a rookie. I kept on countering with the argument that very few young quarterbacks come into as good a situation as JP Buffalo having the #2 defense and #1 special teams plus he has good skill position players with Moulds, Evans, Mcgahee and Shelton. I also raised the point that the Bills won 9 games with Bledsoe at QB and that it should not be too difficult for JP to match Bledsoe's play. Finnally I raised the point (Now I am not sure if this was Mularkey's call or Cowher's call) that in Pittsburgh when Kordell Stewart was struggling he made the right choice to go with Tommy Maddox and that the Bledsoe Losman situation was similar and that Mularkey was making the right choice to go with Losman over Bledsoe. Anyway I'm just wondering what it is with other's that makes you Comfortable With Losman at QB? I should add that I think the Bills have a top notch backup in Kelly Holcomb as I think Cleveland could have been succesful with him at QB with a better defense.
"MrLocke" - Objectivity is almost impossible to find inside WNY let alone outside! Your points are well taken but you are wasting your time trying to convince anyone ESPECIALLY outside of Buffalo. JP will simply have to go out and do it.
The keys to JP's season is a lot like you say and also like "canbuffan34" is stating in his complaints about the rags thread, the coaching is going to play a MAJOR role in how well JP performs. Unlike a veteran who has established his own way of doing things, JP is much more able to listen, learn, and adjust. The game plan - unlike almost every brand new QB in the league - will not be focused on him but on the rungame. Most newbie QB's are on weak teams and the new QB's play is the key role. That is hardly the case in Buffalo. JP is the caretaker of the offense. IF he performs well, his role will expand. Defenses will be set up to STOP THE RUNGAME not the passing game.
Look at the great Peyton Manning: The first few times the Bills played them, the defense was focused on stopping Manning. it worked....to a point. The key for Manning was the addition of James (obviously adding Harrison helped too!) JP comes into a similar situation as Roethlesberger except JP has a full year of practice under his belt PLUS he knew by late February that he would be the starter. Ben was thrown into the fire in Week 3. Ben was susccesful due to a great ST, defense, rungame AND a gameplan where he was not the key player.
If JP is well prepared and IF the coaching staff puts together a game plan geared to what JP CAN do right now, there is every reason to expect him to at least match Drew's performance (Drew was # 27 out of 32 teams.......uhhh, not so hard to match right?). I actuallity, is expecting JP to be as high as #20 outlandish? If so, that is a HUGE improvement in the Bills passing game from last year.
Let the games begin.
-RichNJoisy
www.cnjbbb.org
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OBD announced awhile ago that Peters would be moving to tackle. There has been no word on his progress however.
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I totally agree with this assessment and prediction.
I also agree with the premise that Reed needs a big season to be resigned. I have my doubts that he can do this. Early in his career I was convinced he would be a great rec (not just a good one). Staring with his drop of the flea flicker in the 31-0 drubbing of the patriots 2 years ago, reed has done nothing but disappoint and my expectations are now low for him. Too bad. My cnjbbb friends bought me a Reed jersey 3 years ago.
I think he will be a Bill post camp because:1. Even in his disappointing seasons the Josh Reed MO has been that he is a workout warrior who looks good in camo though he disappoints in regular season. I think he will likely look impressive in pre-season though he may well disappoint in regular season.
2. Reed has shown that there is a big difference between how you practice and how you perform, in addition to having a few key plays in pre-season games as mentioned above, he will likely look good from Friday to Saturday though this well may not translate to Sunday.
3. His contract is such that we have already paid him 400K + of his near million dollar salary, the braintrust will be reluctant to cut him as they have already spent above the rookie minimum for him and a cut would subsidize aniother team.
4. We likely will have the space for him despite the huge number of WRs in camp. I think we can keep up to 6 WRs with one space allocated to a WR who really is a KO guy. The 6 are definites Moulds/Evans/Parrish and likelies Reed/Aiken and Smith. Things can hapen like someone else (Brown perhaps) steps up and impresses and forces his way onto the roster as a scrub WR did a few years ago (Clarence something or other). However, even this possibility forces a choice between Reed and Aiken and Aiken is ahead of Reed last year based on performance since an injury riddled Reed did nothing last year, but Aiken did not take the position by the throat either.
In my mimd, the key to this is going to be ST performance for a player who I think is likely to be #4 on the depth chart if Parrish plays as advertised. Reed's mental lapses appear to be in regular season game performance where he has gotten the droppsies before. Mentally he stays in his lane and will pump iron in the locker room and with his cap hit whether you cut him or not that should keep him here.
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I figure this is impossible but I would love to own just one game which represents the kind of RB OJ was like. I have tried to describe his running style to my wife - kind of like Barry Sanders except north to south and with the strength of an Edgerrin James. I doubt anyone has any video of OJ though. VCRs came out...what...in the late 70's?
Maybe McGahee will look like that this year - hopefully he will have a better home life in any case. sigh
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I still don't see how Travis could divide the locker room. Everyone knows that McGahee is the clear cut starter; the fans, media and players. Henry will only be a backup for the Bills and nothing else (barring injury). If he starts bitchin' the players will either ignore him or tell him to 'shut the !@#$ up'.
I tend to agree with you (uh-oh Nick , we are dividing again
)....I have always argued that there is no such thing as a RB "controversy" (as opposed to a QB controversy which is very real). Thus, if Travis wants to play - play well when you get the rock. If you want a good contract next year , then play well when they hand you the rock. Complain, and the rest of the team will drill you in practice.
This means showing up, shutting up, staying in shape and making the best of your opportunities - on THIS Nick and I AGREE
Hey Nick - BTW - good luck with your new Backer's Club!!!
RichNJoisy
CNJBBB
www.cnjbbb.org
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The reason to trade him is that whatever rose coloured specs we all might wear, Travis is not going to produce diddly-squat this year if he's in a Bills Uniform.
It's a basic equation... You pay him just over a mil this year for no return. You don't pay him and let him go for no return. You trade him and get some return (3rd or 4th round pick).
Travis can do more harm than good in Buffalo in his current state of mind and we should get shot of him.
Ahhhh Nick this is why neither of us is a GM.
I don't disagree with your prediction (aka A Trade) but I do disagree with WHO is in the driver's seat. Let me ask you this: Were you one of the people advocating trading Travis for LJ Shelton? if so, then you would have traded a yet unknown value (to us) for a player that Arizona eventually released (thus of no value) PLUS if we had traded for LJ we would have paid him $3 mil per year for 3 years.
Now if you were not advocating that trade, then you got that one right and then you and I only differ in that I DO NOT see Travis holding out forever but - if no trade ensues - he will come in for his paycheck.
I am not seeing TH with rose-colored glasses. I see TH as a very capable and cheap backup at a critical position. You see him as a guaranteed zero so any trade will do.
We'll eventually see what happens. IMO, I am glad you are not GM
Of course, your prediction may come true. I hope not
For those angry at Terrell....
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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This thread is from both myself and RevNJoisy (sitting behind me as I type this)
A quote from Terrell Owens:
"At the end of the day, I don't have to worry about what people think of me, whether they hate me or not. People hated on Jesus. They threw stones at him and tried to kill him, so how can I complain or worry about what people think?"
-- Eagles wide receiver Terrell Owens, on how people might react to his potential camp holdout.
Len Pasquarelli , espn
soooooooooooo...........
Terrell is The Messiah - The Annointed One - The Christ
He suffers (for us)
He is hated (for us)
If he dies (it'll be for us)
So those of you who doubt his ways, methods, or tantrums
remember who he is.
And be thou ashamed
excuse us while we go barf up our dinner.
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My wife is insisting on a serious note: for those of you who are people of faith, you are not alone in your outrage over this particular individual. For those of you who have ever wondered what breaking the third commandment REALLY means, this is it.