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Given the fact the receiving corps have been decimated by injury, and a complete lack of defense, putting the offense in constant "Must Score", pass happy mode, I am not surprised he is ranked in the middle, but I do think just a little better defensive play, allowing a more balanced attack alone would have allowed Fitzpatrick to be a more efficient passer.
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We haven't won a game with Roscoe on the field in 2 years. What are you talking about?? Fantasize all you want about Merriman and then go back and watch the games--rarely doubled or drew more attention than his replacement. He lost more than a step.
Ahh I knew the merriman bashers would have to take a jab at that one.... even when asked to keep responses to the question asked and what the thread was intended to discuss, you still can't handle that.... was it really that hard? Did I have to not mention any names in order to keep the thread on task? Did I really need to dumb it down that far to keep the likes of these remarks out? Geez!! There is literally a banquet of other threads for you to bash these players in, I just don't get why you found it necessary to do it here. Good grief!
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No he is not an elite QB, but he is very good at times. Inconsistency, and not posting a winning season or a few games where he completely controlled the outcome are what he has yet to do.
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The 90's Bills proved that weak defense can't win superbowls, and the same can be said about the Colts. This team could be heading towards the playoff right now if the defense could have stopped a few of the opposing team's drives. The Bills have allowed 14 drives for touchdowns over the last string of losses, and have lost 3 actual games where they gave up the lead going into the last few minutes of those games. So I disagree with the point of your thread, but the team does need more depth on offense, but watch out what you ask for around these parts... you see, we drafted a play maker in the 2010 draft, and people around here hate that idea.
Brace yourself, the sharks on this board smell blood in the water with this one....
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Actually the team has had 21 winning seasons, with 10 of those winning seasons coming between 1988 and 1999. I think the sum of winning seasons would be ghastly if Bill Polian never manages the team.... simply ghastly!
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hmmm...If you give me back fully healthy with all of the games lost of Marcus Easely, Kyle Williams, Aaron Williams, Eric Wood and, I can't believe I am saying this, Chris Kelsay then I am with you at 8-4.
I know, it's funny how well and how poorly Kelsay can play, at the same time, and in some instances, on the same play! It's like when you see water on fire....
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Wilcots! Buffalo Beels!
HAHAHA!!! Hilarious.
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Not dedicated to winning is how I classify him. Dedicated to making a profit, yes, incompetent, not really, you don't get to be one of the most wealthy sports business owners by being a bonehead. A great poet once summed it up best:
Ralph is Cheap.
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It isn't fair to compare a "potential" future pick with a prior pick made at a different time and different situation. I'll be more than satisfied with a backfield composed of Jackson and Spiller and then using an upcoming pick on a stud LB or OT. You have on many occasions made a sound case that it is absurd and self-defeating to constantly redraft the same positions we have already drafted at, especially the running back position. It's almost at the point that this franchise has a neurosis about drafting backs, releasing/trading and then redrafting. It's not surprising that Lynch and McGahee are still producing.
The Bills had a good LT in Peters. He was our best lineman and was one of our lowest paid lineman. He was shipped out for financial reasons. Wouldn't our OL be more credible with Peters at LT and Hairston at RT, probably his more natural position? If you add Bell as a swing tackle then you also add some depth on the line. The point I'm addressing here is that the owner through his finance people, Littman and Oberdorf, have established a business model in which good players entering their contract years are often moved due to money reasons not having anything to do with football considerations. Is there any doubt that London Fletcher, one of the most productive defensive players in the league, was released because of financial considerations?
My central point is that the flaw in our franchise has little to do with any particular player. It has everything to do with the way the owner has structured the organization. He has established a business model that makes him a ton of money but relegates this team to being stuck in the muck of eternal mediocrity. The owner is 93 yrs old and is fading from the scene. Yet through his financial confederates this team is still being managed in the same self-defeating way.
I couldn't have said it any better myself with regards to Ralph Wilson, he has always run the team strictly from a profit point of view, and has always put very little, if any focus on winning championships. The only man hard headed enough to punch a hole in Ralph's wallet for almost a decade got fired, which had very little to do with losing superbowls.
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Great, anaother thread on hypotheticals that can never be proven.
One clear fact is that Buddy Nix went into this season with no experienced, veteran depth.
Curious decisions were made to not bring in more OLB help, to cut Jeff Hangartner, to trade Lee Evans. and to start the season with a rookie (Hairston) as the swing OT.
Those decisions are on Buddy Nix.
We are $20M under the salary cap - that decision is on Ralph, Overdorf, and Littman.
Injuries are part of the game. Yes, we would be a better team if all of our starters were still in the he line up. Sorry, not gonna play "what if".
Nobody held a gun to your head to post in my thread, which I'd like to share and hear the opinions of those who ask this particular question... Why even post a comment then? Just to be rude to others?
Two games for sure stand out in my mind that should have gone the other way, well, make that 3, cincinnatti, new jersey giants, and new jersey jests. A healthy Kyle Williams alone may have had an impact on those games. I still think it's early to lay blame on the GM just yet, I am looking forwards to the pivotal 3rd offseason where this team tries to get some real depth at a few positions. As for Lee Evans, I loved the guy, but I think having him here this season wouldn't have had any impact, I don't know what happened to him, but he seems to have really faded. I watched a few youtube highlight clips of the guy, and it's night and day between the 04-06 lee evans, and the 07-10 player. I do wish him well though if he can revive his career, great, I just didn't think his style of play fitted what Chan Gailey wants to do here.
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In looking back at the season where the team started out quite deep at a few positions, and had some talent at a few others, they seemed to actually play better as the game wore on, but slowly as the injury bug hit, the strong finishes in games also seemed to fade away.
It seemed to have started with Shawn Merriman, and while there are a ton of those threads already where people don't think he was doing anything, I saw him as very effective with respect to how much attention he drew. Next other key players like Roscoe Parrish, Kyle Williams, and so on and so forth out for the season. Looking at our IR list is almost like looking at our opening day starting roster, it's staggering, so my question is, How do you feel the season would be so far given just a few key players weren't lost for the season on both sides of the ball?
Personally I think we're probably looking at a solid 8-4 record without all the injuries to most of our key players and positions, and just this alone has a lot to do with how the team has slid.
I find it hilarious how all of a sudden we see buddy Nix threads starting to pop up questioning whether or not he should be fired. I don't think you can place blame on him for what has happened to the team with regards to injuries, which I'd like to keep this thread based on(Bolded question)
If you want to bash Buddy Nix, or Shawn Merriman, please take that stuff somewhere else, If you want to post a few random Ralph is Cheap comments, feel free.
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Banking on Merriman was a bad idea. Why do you think no other Gms pulled the trigger to sign him? It was just idiotic. He's nothing with out the juice. Terrance McGee hasn't finihed a season the last three years, so he was right on schedule for his IR return. Should have resinged Greer, and let McGee go. Parrish can't stay healthy. He is just too small unfortunately to take the hits. I just hope Wood can make a full return for next year. Our FO let us down once again by banking on injury prone players in key positions to make plays.
Sometimes I just sit back and wait for these shots... merriman has nothing to do with the amount of injuries the team has endured over the last 6 seasons, it's almost like you replied to the wrong thread with this garbage.
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I see no reason to think this team is not headed in the right direction, and just because they got our hopes a little higher this year than we thought possibly doesn't mean this season will be a bust. If a new defensive coordinator is had, along with some OLB and corner help, this team will win quite a few games next year. I'm disappointed like everyone else, but I agree with the OP.
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"Dig a hole my men," Sir Andrew said
"A lot I'm hurt, hemorrhaging blood, and fading from delusional consciousness to the blackness of cold death, but not yet slain"
"You bastards better wait till I'm dead before covering me with dirt though!!"
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I will try, although you will probably dislike, or perhaps even get angry at my reponse.
If you live in a beat up bungalo that needs a roof, bathroom, kitchen, and has a basement that leaks, would you put Anderson windows on it? Andersons are "good" windows, but the house itself won't be any good until the major needs are addressed.
Now, CJ, while he might be good some day, would appear to be a luxury that the Bills couldn't afford. After 28 games, are we really sure that he is an every down back? To add insult to (imo) injury, they RAN to the podium to make this selection. They didn't wait for last minute trade offers, which do happen. Then, Mr. Wilson was loving the pick, stating that the team needed "more excitement." This while we had no pass rush, no OTs, weak lbs, and was Trent still the qb?
So, as you requested, I left out Lynch and Jackson. And if you like the pick to this day, what's the problem? We can't agree on everything.
One question if I may: Trent Richardson may or may not be picked in the top 10. Who would you prefer, Richardson or Spiller?
I simply disagree any team not having any depth or game changers on their team at a position can even have any pick be classified as a luxury, and I also can't understand how any player can be deemed a bust without getting the chance to play. I'm not arguing your strategy isn't more sound than what the GM decided that day, I can't control that, but the point of this thread was that I did agree with the pick, still do, even though other players have had more opportunities to play, hindsight is 20/20, and i didn't want to go there, I want to stay on task that it's not always doom and gloom when we pick in the 1st round, but Buffalo fans love to poke holes in paper houses when it comes to draft picks. It seems like the satisfaction they get from saying "I told you so", or "look how bad our GM is" is all that keeps them around. It's obvious the problem is much deeper than one draft pick, but CJ has been an easy target since the Maybin pick gets worse by the minute, damned if you do(picking him), damned if you don't(cutting him).
It gets old reading the constant bashing and brow beating these guys take, and I am starting to wonder if players, coaches, and even front office staff actually lose their jobs over what is said in the public open media, we have a meddling owner who just might have the sense, or lack there of, to act on such nonsense.
And now with Freddie injured, how on earth can anyone sit around and think the top RB in the draft is a luxury? What frickin luxury? Nobody really though Lynch was getting any better in 2009, nobody, INCLUDING the rest of the NFL. Who else has the potential to break runs on this team, or possibly score on offense? I stand my ground that they saw that potential in Spiller, I saw flashes of it Sunday, there's no doubt he will be good, so the arguments against him get thinner by the moment. The depth at that position simply was not, and still is not there past Freddie. It seems they have had a plan on offensive line, and it actually seems to be working, and defensively it looks like a DE or DT again since other picks have not panned out.
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lynch had two 1000 yard seasons to start his career before 2009(the year before spiller) when freddy took over the starter position and ran for 1100. So we had two backs that could go over 1000 yards on the roster with one of them running himself outta town cause of his bs. Pouncey was on the board who is an all pro center and we could have had him to make our interior o line legit. Oh and see the titans and how well they have done with a pro bowl rb.
So your point is that we weren't very deep at RB, since neither were considered elite talent at the time of the draft... glad you see it my way.
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actually the team went 2-14 in 1984 and 1985, then 4-12 in 1986, 7-8 in 1987, but I get your point...
Injuries and a bit more help on defense and this team would not be collapsing this year, so as disappointed as I am with this season, I have really liked some of the things I have seen from them this year.
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I love this and will be stealing it...don't worry, i will not claim it as my own.
No worries, have fun with it... it fits this team so well it should be printed in the game day pamphlets at Rich Stadium
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Link?
link to what? you didn't hear it on TV? where you asleep or not listening to any of the radio shows on Monday after that game?
You have to be kidding me you didn't hear those things being said on the air in the media...
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Here's my problem.
YOU DONT DRAFT A RUNNING BACK IN THE FIRST ROUND! (And if you do, you damn well better hit a home run).
Look through the league. Any number of teams have good RBs who they have picked up later in the draft. A quick sampling:
Fred Jackson - undrafted
Turner - 5th Round
Murray - 3rd ROund
Gore - 3rd Round
Foster - Undrafted
Greene - 3rd Round
Hillis - 7th Round
Bradshaw - 7th Round
...I am sure there are others (and I'll spare you the Terrell Davis's)
Point is, RB is THE ONE POSITION where you can almost literally plug someone in and have them be successful. Maybe CJ isnt the guy, but guarentee you plug CJ in, White, and a couple other guy and eventually you will find you next Fred Jackson or Arian Foster. And it DIDNT cost you much money or any draft picks.`
Because of that, it was asinine to draft Willis McGahee when you had Travis Henry. But it was no more ridiculous than drafting Marshawn Lynch when you had Willis McGahee. Nor was it any more insane when they drafted Spiller when Lynch was on the roster. Those are 3 wasted picks to me (and they were at the time as well). Lets stop this. We can never draft another RB in the first round for as long as I am alive and I will be happy.
We waste enough first rounders when we actually pick a position that is difficult to fill. STOP WITH THE RBs.
CJ would have gone in the first round guaranteed, and probably would have started on the team that picked him, making his career further along than it is now, and everyone around here would have pissed and moaned on how we passed on the guy. He was the highest rated player on the board at #9, so you pick him since you had one running back with a career 3.7 YPC average who wants out, and the other at age 29 who hasn't been a starter in the league at that point.
So yes, your facts actually prove the RB position was a position of need, so it's completely senseless to pass on the highest rated RB in the draft at the time. This thread is not about any other RB picked by other GMs in the past, so lets leave that dead horse alone. As far as finding top tier RBs deeper in the draft, yes, it's possible.
I'd love to have a rebuttal that doesn't point to a useless Marshawn lynch, or an unproven Freddie(at the time), neither player was a game changer, or elite talent, so enough with that argument already, it's lame, weak, and just proves why you would take the highest rated RB in the draft at the time.
Again, I'd like to point out that I posted this after Spiller finally got a couple games under his belt, and I also will go so far as to say he will be a better back than the likes of Reggie Bush. I have no doubt this kid won't have any trouble starting where Reggie struggled. In one full game he already has more highlight runs than the guy we sent to seattle. I still can't for the life of me understand how people simply want to ignore the fact that a team with 0 pro bowlers at the RB position can see it as a luxury pick... just blindingly hard to understand.
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I literally laughed aloud when he did that. I thought it was funny, and something that just a young kid having a little fun with a situation that was blown so far out of proportion it was laughable. People saying cut him, or trade the guy, give me a break...
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you can hang this one and every other one on the defense. they simply can't stop anyone on any given play.
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It's hard to celebrate in the NFL.
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If you do what you've always done, you get what you always got.
no goal, wide right. bills 11 yr embarassment..PEOPLE!
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+1 -- that was agonizing to read.