ThurmasThoman

lmao. the reason we havent been able to "breathe on brady" is because our defense has been terrible. giants won two superbowls against the patsies by putting him on his ass. dont hate the refs, hate our former defensive front. we'll kill the pats this week, replacement refs, real refs, madden refs, no refs. the pats have-no offensive line, no defense, and aside from lee evans dropping the game winning td last year, and cundiff shanking that kick, havent beaten a team with a winning record since 2010. the. pats. suck. bills 34, pats 13.

Im ashamed to say I read all the blurbs. classic http://photos.essence.com/galleries/eye-candy-buffalo-bills-safety-george-wilson?pkw=outbrain-rss#!184281 looks like zoolander lol

think of it like this. lets say beli is going with a package of 50 defensive plays for this weeks game if spiller and jackson aren't in the lineup. essentially, stuff the box, make fitz throw 15-20 yard passes, something he isn't comfortable with. every player on their defense has to know their individual assignments on those plays. now, if freddy and spiller are playing, it opens up another wrinkle to our offense - the screen, and to a lesser extent, spiller split wide. so you might need 2 or 3 additional defensive plays put into the game plan for each one of those. it may not seem like THAT big of a deal, but for every additional scenario you have to gameplan for, there is a bigger chance that SOMEONE will be out of position on defense. considering both freddy and cj are homerun threats on every play, defensive misreads 5 yards off the line is HUGE for us. 2 additional things - this is why the wildcat is so important - defenses will always have to have 3 or 4 looks in their practice every week just for our wild cat. you can argue with the line of thinking, but you cant argue with the results - we have been pretty good on offense under gailey. also, its why the patriots really didnt win a superbowl. if you know every play your opponents are going to run, and what their game plan looks like... whats the point?

lol. "that old." the guy is 30! since turning 30, tiger has gone through TWO swing changes, and worked with 3 different swing coaches. for tiger, it's always a matter of taking it from the range, to the course. he'll put a good number up on a friday, but then fall back a little on saturday. then a month later, its 2 good rounds. then 3. then he's winning majors again. same thing with fitz--a bad throw here, then 3 good ones, then a bad one. it's about developing muscle memory, but then being able to recreate that when the bullets are flying. we DO have the number 4 ranked offense in the league right now, and we DID just win this week right? or did i miss something?

i was watching on tv several states away. i watch every game til the final gun. paid 300 for sunday ticket this year. saw pigpen come in, and for the first time i can remember, changed the channel to a different game. tbh, i was really more interested in seeing if the pats would lose, than watching us hand it off to a 3rd string running back for 5 minutes. also, the cbs announcers were horrible. i know theres only so much you can discuss in a blowout, but once they started talking about what the chiefs practice would look like this week for the 4th time, i couldnt take it anymore.

agree with the first part, totally disagree with the second. fitz was great today. totally in control of the game from start to finish, aside from 1 underthrown pass on a play action in that first series. last week was a divisional game (always 50/50,) on the road (always hard,) in week 1 (always hard.) fitz played terrible last week, but if last week was a 1, and this week was a 10, i would say on the scale of how good of a team we are, we are closer to this game. lets see how we do next week in cleveland though!!

to the OP. you have to realize that your question will never be answered to your satisfaction, because you are asking the question to a forum of fans of... THE BUFFALO BILLS. and asking this forum of bills fans, the franchise that has multiple motherf*cking CATCHPHRASES (wide right, music city miracle) for heartbreak if the team will eventually complete the long con and move away? that's like calling the suicide hotline and asking the operator: "quick - tell me the best joke you've heard tonight." as you can see from the bolded section above, its ridiculous to think this team is going ANYWHERE. theres 10 million between rochester and toronto--people who passionate as all hell not about the NFL and fantasy football, but the buffalo bills. and if the league realized that about cleveland,ohio, of all places, it's not going to make the same mistake about buffalo, new york. the absolute, end of the world, sky is falling, we're doomed scenario that we can discuss (and should MAYBE come to terms with) is the ultimate regionalization of this team, and the phrase The Niagra Bills. The patriots were once the boston patriots, and play their games a good hour outside the city themselves. what this would mean (new stadium, higher ticket prices, more free agents, more wins,) could be addressed in a new thread, if you wanted to do something new around here. but from the highest executive, to the lowest fan, EVERYONE associated with the buffalo bills expects the worst. it's why we lose, it has infected the soul of the organization like a cancer of the blood. to post on this forum, you must disregard the multiple reports from everyone associated with the LA project, and the nfl, that continuously list the rams chargers and raiders as the teams that are going to be targeted for the move. since the LA ball started rolling 3 years ago there has been not a single. solitary. shred. of a hint, of a whif of a leak that has mentioned that the league has even entertained the idea of uprooting the bills. meanwhile, they continue to negotiate a new lease on the stadium, and a new 5 year deal with toronto.

you can read 2 pages back and find a rambling, incoherent post from me re: why people with optimism about this team should jump of a bridge, and then try to drink their way to the surface. HOWEVER. i've slept on it, and i STILL think this team is going to the playoffs, and pretty easily. first of all, no matter how bad it was yesterday, (and it was awful,) we still put up almost 30 points, and as of right now, statistically, have a top 10 offense in the league. let's be realistic here - how many games is Fitz going to throw 3 picks, and our defense is going to surrender 50 points? we may be bad, it's fine to think we are, but we're not THAT bad. we're absolutely not THAT bad. second, when you look at our schedule, and break it down, we need to go: 4-2 in the division (split the pats and jets, sweep the fish,) 2-2 in the NFC (ill take losses to san fran, and arizona, thanks) 2-2 against the south (maybe we lose to tennessee and houston) and 1-1 against the teams that finished in 4th in the north and west, which is our next 2 games against kc and cleveland to give us 9 wins. that got a 6 seed last year, and it's something we could do this year, easily. more importantly, it doesn't even make next weeks game the MUST WIN that some have made it out to be. we can still lose to kc, and beat cleveland, and be on pace for a 6th seed. but if we DO beat kc, that buys us another "losable game" in our division, meaning we wouldnt HAVE to beat new england, we could get swept by them and still finish 9-7. so, as mad as i was yesterday... and to be honest, i wasnt even mad, i was depressed... this sunday is a whole new ball game. this is what it means to be a bills fan. this is why we all post here. you mean to tell me that you have followed this team for as long as you have, and youre going to walk away now? no. it's just getting good...

we have the seventh ranked offense in the league. just saying.

i do. they played in back to back conference championships, were 8-5 before going on a 3 game slide to end last season, should have probably made the playoffs. they can consistently beat the pats, including in the playoffs. they have a starting qb who is good - didnt he have like 26 tds last year? 18 picks? they just smoked us. theyve beaten us, what? 6 times in a row? why on EARTH would i say were going to be better than the jets? what, over the last 3? 4? 5? 12? years leads you to believe they are not contenders and we are? gaileys 10-23 record as our coach?? fitz's 3 picks today? the fact that our number 1 running back and number 2 wideout could be done for the season?? WE. SUCK.

ive always been the optimist when it comes to following the bills. always. to a fault even. texting people today that we were going to win when we got to within 13 in the fourth. but facts are facts: gailey 0-8 to start 2010 - finished 4-12 gailey 1-8 to finish 2011 - finished 6-10 over the last 14 games (including preseason) were 1-13 and have been absolutely dominated in every facet of the game. to say the league understands our offense would be an understatement - there were defenders literally standing where fitz was going to throw his pass BEFORE HE THREW IT! we have no offense. the best defense in the world cant recover from the mistakes our offense made. gailey needs to be fired asap. a-s-a-p. he. is. a. terrible. coach. not bad, not mediocre - TERRIBLE. probably the worst win pct. in bills history. there is no excuse for this. he has lost the team, he has no offensive game plan, its over. its done. he needs to go right now. RIGHT NOW.

let me be the first to post it: this game aint over

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How any man with a pair of testicles between his legs and a strong father figure/male role model in his life could think that Ben Rothlisberger raped a drunk college girl in a bathroom is absolutely beyond me, and shows the failure and dissolution of the man in post-feminism America. Did watching the fallout from Tiger's scandal teach you nothing? Kobe's scandal?

People just have no concept how large/important the Toronto foothold is to the NFL. Will the Bills potentially "regionalize" (like the Patriots did,) have a stadium 45 minutes outside the city (like the Patriots do,) and rebrand themselves as the Niagra Bills (like the New England Patriots did)? Of course. But will the team in the 4th largest media market on this side of the atlantic pick up shop and move to the 2nd largest media market? No. jax>stl>oak>sd all going to go to LA first.

every division game is generally a coin toss. we've been bad for so long, that fact has been forgotten. this year, if we can have a winning record in our division, we go to the playoffs, it's as simple as that. ideally: split the jets, split the pats, sweep the fish. so sunday isnt a must win, and it's too hard to call - it's going to be stressful, but let's hope we can leave there with a W.

where are you even seeing it on your ps3? i searched the store, and my "video sevices" tab on the xmb, and theres nothing nfl-related to be found. im guessing theyll update the store tomorrow night, and ill be able to buy it tomorrow morning. oh well, the check im using to buy it wont even clear til tonight, so not a big deal. im just wondering if there will be an option to pay in installments...

Am I supposed to get a tent in my pants over Brady, and crown him as the greatest, when, since being punished for cheating, he has had his ass handed to him by Eli in 2 super bowls? Would that not make Eli better than Brady, and in turn, the best quarterback of all time? Because really, it's the super bowl "wins" that put brady in this discussion of "best ever," and the fact that those super bowl wins shouldnt exist changes the conversation a tad, no?

Why do people keep saying they're worried about the offense? Is it because of the preseason? I'm honestly wondering, I'm not trying to be facetious.

I think this thread confirms that the National Football League made the right decision in destroying all of the tapes that New England had which proved they cheated. It has almost been erased from the consciousness of America, and our national religion is allowed to go on, unquestioned, and continue to earn billions of dollars a year, without messy subjects like "fixed games," "cheating," and "las vegas" coming into play. Is Lance Armstrong the best cyclist ever? Is Barry Bonds the greatest home run hitter of all time? Is Tom Brady the best quarterback ever? If you think it's silly to lump those 3 together - you're right, it is. It's insulting to both Lance Armstrong and Barry Bonds, who have no evidence against them that they ever cheated, unlike the New England Patriots, who receieved the harshest penalty in the history of the National Football League--for cheating! Once again - The New England Patriots were punished for cheating. How their field general (who has won ZERO championships since this scandal) can be mentioned as one of the greatest of all times, is beyond me. I live in New England. I have watched more Patriot games than any 5 people on this board, combined, and then multiplied by 20. I have essentially watched all, part of, or most of every game Tom Brady has ever played. The way they "won" those games during their Super Bowl "era" was absolutely, fundamentally--for lack of a better word--uncanny. You can't understand if you only saw the playoff games, or the Super Bowls, or the games they played a clearly inferior Bills team, or the nationally televised games. You had to see them week in and week out. Like the Steelers said, Brady was calling out their defensive signals at the line, he knew their defense better than the Steelers did. The Patriots were just, outmatched, outplayed, and outclassed in 99% of their games, from 2001 through 2007. But yet, they always found a way to win. Always. The St. Louis Rams of 2002 were one of the greatest offenses in the history of professional football--this thread should be about Kurt Warner--yet they got sideswiped in what should have been the second of their back to back Super Bowl wins. And this isn't just a Bills fan saying this--the fraternity of NFL players, from Kurt Warner to James Harrison feel the same way. Kurt Warner, the good Christian, NFL dignitary says this about Tom Brady: "Warner suggests New England would tape opponents' defensive signals from the sidelines, as it was caught doing against the Jets this season, to decode the communications and file them away for a future game against the same team. If the coaches know the defensive signals, he says, they can filter information to the quarterback through the headset in his helmet, which shuts off with 15 seconds left on the play clock. "If teams kept their signals the same, then you could get a bead on them and be able to have that information," Warner says. "It would be a distinct advantage." So no, Tom Brady is not the greatest QB of all time.

great drive to start the game/end the preseason (for the starters.) No offense injuries. bring in the backups!

fred jackson: 7 carries/5 yards a carry/1 td. he is what our offense is predicated on. running him, screens to him, which in turn opens up the short to intermediate passing game, which will in turn allow us to let graham run some fly routes and hopefully get iso once in a while and break something. ball control ball control ball control. that's the name of the game with our running backs, and this defense, and the fact that were keeping a kickoff specialist only reinforces that - plus, most of our second half schedule is at home in bad weather, to further that point. why why why WHY would we run THAT offense, in games that don't count? keep the running backs healthy, that's the name of the game this preseason. if you think our season is going to revolve around fitz throwing for 400 yards a game, think again. teams know were not running this preseason, teams are blitzing, our offense looks terrible, blah blah blah. new england has looked: awful the jets have looked: worse than awful the dolphins have looked: the worst of all its. the. preseason.

I'm going to go on record and make a thread about this as the season gets near, and I've said it in a million different places, but the Patriots will NOT be a good to great football team this year. Everyone is absolutely conceding the top seed in the conference to this team. I know this is an incredible leap of logic, but bear with me. For just one second, put it out of your mind that they made the super bowl last year. Now let's review their 2011 campaign: *31st ranked defense in the National Football League (we hung 55 points on them total. we put 35 on the jets and 31 on the phins, for comparison.) *NO wins against teams with winning records during the regular season, got by the ravens in the conference championship by Lee Evans dropping a game winning touchdown, and Billy Cundiff shanking a game tying gimmie - a one in a million scenario. *20th ranked rushing attack in the league, BUT, green-ellis (their "leading" back) is now in cincinnatti. *Offensive line is absolutely TERRIBLE. I live in new england, the local talk radio won't shut up about how bad their O-line is - I watched the game last night, in a 4 play stretch Brady went sack, pick 6, incomplete, pass batted down at the line. *Tom Brady is now 35 years old, playing behind this O-Line. Thirty. Five. Jim Kelly retired after playing in his "35" year. I just can't get over how much is conceded to the Patriots this year. They. will. not. be. good. I promise you. They look old, slow, and are counting on way too many rookies to contribute way too much. If they win 9 games, I will be surprised. Analysts are talking like they could go 16-0 again? LOL. I think, week 1, when they travel to tennessee, it's going to be one of those "changing of the guard" games. I think they are going to get run off the field, and it won't even be close. By the time the Bills and the Patriots meet in week 4, it's going to be readily apparent that these are 2 teams traveling in very different directions. I mean, look at the Patriots first 7 games, and imagine them not as super-human, but just the middle of the road team they are with the worst defense in the league, and a 35 year old qb. at tennessee arizona at baltimore at buffalo denver at seatle jets i look at that and see them splitting the first 2, then loss-loss-loss-loss, then a home game against the jets that they could potentially enter at 1-5. It's over man. Their "dynasty" (haven't won a superbowl since the league punished them for cheating,) is going to crumble so quickly at the beginning of this year, people's heads will be spinning. we'll be sitting atop the division by week 4.

for what it's worth, this man right here does not look like someone who is going to come to buffalo in april, learn gailey's offense by september, and lead the bills to the super bowl. so the vaunted 7-9 seahawks, with a college flunkie for a head coach, made him their starter? can you hear my tears hitting the keyboard from where youre sitting?

i think for the section of the fanbase that is against keeping a kickoff specialist - imagine it like this: let's say we signed an unheard of free agent that could ONLY play special teams - he was a gunner. and with his signing, came the guarantee that he would FLY down the field at a rate of speed you had never seen before, and tackle every, single return man at the 20 yard line. they would get absolutely no further than the 20 yard line. you would certainly be for keeping that player, no? just because he's a kicker, don't undervalue his importance to this team. with our d-line, in our stadium (with the majority of our second half schedule being at home,) and our running game? im all for teams starting every drive at the 20. that's going to be absolutely DAUNTING. imagine sanchez throwing into the wind, down by 14 to start the fourth quarter,week 17, wild card spot on the line... and potter f*cking drills it through the endzone so they have to start on the 20. this season is going to be so much fun, i cant wait.