BringBackFergy

This is very interesting. Congrats! On a side note, I’m wondering if law enforcement/State Police/FBI have access to Ancestry.com or 23andMe? It seems these websites may become a gigantic DNA database subject to state and federal search warrants.

There is no rambling when it comes to matters of Marrone.

I think I understand how things GROW...do you?? That’s the idea with trees. Let them get strong and take root. But with this one (Marrone’s) you have to realize the potential before it gets too large. Harvest the proginy (Hackett) now before it becomes overpriced.

Not sure you’re taking this serious. But to play along with you, this maze seems to demonstrate how intricate the root system is in the Marrone coaching ecosytem. Thanks for the illustration.

I’m more of a risk taker and others might disagree, but if I was Beane I’d text Hackett now (before the game) and simply say “Hey Nate. Good luck this weekend. Doug seems to have turned the corner. Wanna do the same in Buffalo?” You may not have known this but Hackett started in Bflo as an equipment manager. So I’m sure he would want to get back. With his history and local ties ( not to mention Marrone tree genetics), why not?

I think the problem with your opinion (and SouthNYFan above) is you fail to realize how Marrone affected others he worked with. Like the guy CrippledCreek said above, we learn from those we work with. Schwartz was a mediocre coach until Marrone brought him in and showed him “how to implement a plan”. Look at Payton - he won a SB but never had a power run game until he incorporated some of Marrone’s run blocking schemes. I just think Marrone’s coaching tree is going through a growth spurt and it makes sense to delve further into what makes him tick...namely, the middle trunk called “Hackett”.

Banyan tree - a/k/a Marrone Tree. Strongest root system, weathers the toughest storms, many branches. How can one be sarcastic and still make the same argument you made. I guess you are being sarcastic? Or maybe, just maybe, Marrone really does have a coaching tree that others on here are unable to appreciate.

Are you warning me against trashing Chud’s name? I did no such thing. In fact, your failure to acknowledge Marrone’s tree (given his 9-7 season here and his continued playoff success with Jags) is an obvious slap. Beware.

You raise a valid point. Guys here think a coaching tree can only be a massive, towering oak. The Marrone Coaching tree is similar to a banyon tree...not really tall or well known, but the roots run far and is considered one of the strongest rooted trees in the world (elephants were typically chained to a banyon tree to train them for work). Marrone’s banyon coaching tree reaches far and many have trained under his canopy. The funny thing is...his tree is still growing. Hackett is one of those branches and I see no reason to overlook him as an OC candidate (what tree did Bevell, Chud or McCoy come from?? Some rotted old recycled barn wood)

No joke. The Bills are done for the year. The Jags are still playing. Hackett is still calling plays. Enough said. I’ll have some of what Marrone is serving. The tree is getting stronger. Watch it grow.

I see you have likewise dug into Marrone’s history. Thanks. Nice to see someone who understands the widespread influence of Marrone’s coaching philosophy.

Anyone know how to properly smoke fresh tripe? Just curious.

I submit there is a “reset” when a coach goes from HC to OC or DC. Were the Lions known for fast LB’s?? No...or at least their record didn’t reflect that during his tenure. It wasn’t until Marrone (then Schwartz) saw the diamond in the rough of Kiko and Bradham that we had pure speed at the LB position. Score one for the Marrone coaching tree (again)

We have an extra room for you (and the dogs and cats).

Uhhhh, his tree. Not a Walsh tree, or a Parcells tree, or a Norv Turner tree. This Marrone tree is not identical to any other. It is its own hybrid that Marrone cultivated. The offspring (Hackett, Schwartz, Coughlin, Payton etc) are adopting it. I guess we could be considered the guinea pigs but bring in Hackett and we are part of it again. Certainly, Dennison’s tree has been chopped up for firewood or pulp for the paper mill.

I have to respectfully disagree with you on this. Marrone’s tree has branched out considerably. When you really dig deep (as I have) you can see not only coaches, but coaching PHILOSOPHIES have blossomed from the Marrone tree. ”Run First”: that strategy has now been adopted by Hackett (a direct root of the tree) but Sean Payton and Todd Bowles. Coughlin has also adopted it. “Fast LB’s”: that strategy has been adopted by Schwartz and others who have witnessed the LB corps assembled by Marrone (and his tree). That limb will keep growing even in Buffalo. “Conservative/Running QB offense”: Marrone adopted the ball possession, running QB offense with Orton and now with Bortles. If there is a risk of missing FG, punt the ball, pin them deep and rely on fast LB’s. This is the variegated variety of tree that many try to replicate and even MCDermott made an attempt at it. I predict in the next five years, we’ll all forget about “West Coast Offense” or “Ground and Pound”. No more “47 defense” or even K Gun. The new buzzword will be “Marroniac Offense” (ball control, let your defense win the game, have athletic QB to move the chains).

Will you be my butler for a week?

That twig bore an acorn that has sprouted into its own tree with his own branches, fruit etc. Pretty easy to see how Marrone’s own tree is now a towering symbol of what “could have been”. We can start our own Hackett coaching tree.

If you make him Assistant Head Coach and throw in a 3rd round pick I think it’s doable.

So your first post was “thinking of getting a part time job” and now you say “not even thinking of getting a job”....?? I thought long and hard about my suggestion. Where should I send my bill?

I guess you don’t understand simple plant/tree/vine grafting. Look it up. You take an existing branch/stem, root it in water, allow it to grow like your grandma did with geraniums in her front window, then plant it with older/mature plants and a new crop grows with different genetic markers and attractive characteristics. You’re looking at this as if Bill Walsh’s coaching tree is a sum certain....wrong. Marrone’s coaching tree branches off with rooted plants, grafted vines and transplants that take off. Sean Payton was nothing more than a “throw at all costs” coach until he watched how Marrone operated an offense. Guess what Payton did? Went out and obtained two of the most efficient runners in the NFL. Tom Coughlin was a cast off...a pirrahna and suddenly found a home in Jax with who? Marrone. Guess what? Marrone called the shots on the field with guys like Nate Hackett overseeing the offense. Why would you laugh at taking a small sample of Marrone’s tree and letting it grow into a strong mainstay of our own for years to come. I’ll never understand why we can’t have the successes of other teams until I read some of these responses.

Didn’t realize making decisions on what coaches and philosophies to adopt is not a decision attributable to the roots of the tree...hiring Schwartz was Marrone’s call and the fruit of his tree (along with Hackett, guys like Coughlin, etc) are now being enjoyed outside our own organization. I sense some buyer’s remorse in some of you.

What was Schwartz before coaching for Marrone? Oh, you mean the Detroit Lions perennial 8-8 teams? Take a look at his work after he joined ranks with Marrone. The branches extend far and you are like the neighbor that wants to chop them off because they hang over the driveway. Marrone's coaching tree can't be chopped and pruned to serve your own purposes.

I'd rather watch our team play another week in the playoffs....Marrone is Any coach or front office guy that Marrone has worked with this year or in the past belongs on the tree...can't pick and choose which branches are real...they all grow from his roots.

Uhhh, no. A joke would be Rick Dennison staying on. You can't question the success Marrone has enjoyed and that is due, in part, to the coaches he has surrounded himself with...all are branches forming his own coaching tree.