artmalibu
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We will see what kind of competitor mario is this week. The tackle from KC might have to pay the price.
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The best D-linemen all have games where they look invisible. MAYBE except Demarcus Ware. I've not seen a Cowboys game and not noticed him. But my point is that one game doesn't really put a DE in a position where he needs to save face. A few might.
After crying in the media about hands to the face all day I think so!! If he kept his mouth shut your right.
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The only way Mario saves face is to have a few monster weeks, and then the peanut gallery can kiss his A$$.. If this stuff doesnt motivate him nothing will.
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Wait, he was a wasted pick!
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Maybe Edwards wasn't so bad!! Seeing the Jets #1 receivers uncovered isn't going to work.
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I assume people got it from listening to WGR pre-game show or off twitter from Chris Brown and a dozen others.
Thanks
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Where is this information listed? I have looked for it but couldnt find it.
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Is Rex that dumb to let his QB sit back in the pocket and take hits. I think not. Jets will run a lot and throw quick passes. The only way he will try to go down field is if they are down 2 or more scores.
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Dont think your hiding a player form 31 other NFL teams.
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You're entitled. I don't see how assuming Thigpen's roster spot would otherwise belong to one of the WR now on PS applies, which was the point I was addressing. I think GMs and coaches take a more gestalt approach, but maybe that's just me.
All the stuff I've read has said "an" (singular) late-round pick or "a 5th or 6th round pick" or "an undisclosed pick". I haven't seen anything about 2 picks - source?
Your right its a 7th that could become a 6th if he plays. So, the deal is better than I thought.
*chuckle* OK you have a point that Smith is not really a QB. But if we grant that, then it follows he wasn't a QB last year and de facto, last year we had 2.
The fact is, we have 1 more QB on our roster than we did last year (3 or 4, depending on how you count Smith). What's the "normal amount of QBs? Many teams have 2.
If they did not have enough time to involve Smith as a wildcat last year was he really a QB option, How much QB has he played in preseason this year and last year. He is not there to play QB, I would bet it the roster rules didnt change they would not have picked him up. Back in the day either Thurman Thomas or Andra Reed was listed as the emergency QB so I guess they were real QBs too. If he is a ligit QB option they would not have kept TT to get TJ ready.
We have kept coverage specialists. We didn't keep a WR for it (Martin), but if I'm not mistaken both Corey Mac and Chris White excelled as gunners for us last year.
Martin was the best gunner on the team in my opinion.
You're quite correct, Sanders is a 5th round pick. Me bad. And yes, that's exactly what I'm saying, he's not hurt or hurt seriously. When a guy's injury has never been mentioned in the press and is listed as "undisclosed", it's pretty questionable IMO when he shows up on season-ending IR.
What should they do with him 4 tackles are on the team now and I dont think he can beat any of them out. So, 5 tackles are needed? Just because they didnt tell you how he is hurt does not mean he is not. Even if he could be healthy later in the season is a second rate rookie without any real experience going to help?
As for the rest, I think I give up. Maybe y'all are right and despite what I saw, White outplayed McKillop and Carder at LB. Not so, from what I saw, but coaches have more to look at.
I think these were roster limitation decisions - I'm quite certain they would rather have Saunders or Asper available to them than David Snow (pitch me with a fork!) - but maybe Kelly the Dog is right and I'm wrong.
How many LBs should they keep??? They have 7 and now with a 4/3 defense, I think 4 back-ups is enough.
Maybe I drank too much coolaid or you know more than the coaches.
Either way I bet we agree that we are excited for the season to start. Go BILLS
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Well, I can try. Not sure I can do any better than I already did. I'll try to line it out.
The Bills made a decision to cut Vince Young and trade for Tarvaris Jackson. Net impact: -1 draft pick
Tarvaris Jackson had zip time to learn our system. That means Thiggy stays. Net impact: -1 roster spot
Bills decided to keep kickoff return specialist Net impact: -1 roster spot
Bills decided to keep 2 injured DBs on the roster, one past 4Sep deadline Net impact: -2 roster spots
In order to free up a roster spot, Bills keep only 4 WR (will prob. pull 1 back when the IR Brooks): Net impact: +1 roster spot
So the Bills need to free up 3 roster spots.
Place 4th round pick Zebrie Sanders (?what's hurt Zebrie?) on IR, rendering him unavailable to Bills and unable to practice for season: Net impact +1 roster spot
Cut 5th and 6th round picks Net impact: +2 roster spots
5th and 6th round picks promising enough to get signed off waivers. Net impact: -2 draft picks
So overall, by making the roster decisions that were made (late QB trade, keeping 4 QB on roster, keeping kickoff specialist, keeping injured DBs), cost the Bills 3 draft picks (2012 5th and 6th plus whatever they gave for TJax) as well as access to a 2012 4th round pick for the season and his ability to practice with the team and improve.
And, Thigpen's salary, since it's a sucker bet he'll be on the opening day roster.
All of these may be the best decisions for the Bills right now and for this season. It depends on what you think the potential of the draft picks that were sacrificed really was. Maybe it was low and they gave up really little. Maybe they gave up a good player. The way Nix stockpiles picks, I'm sure he didn't do it lightly.
Ok, since this is a TT takes a pay cut thread I dont see how 90% of your post applies...
I believe the TJ trade was for 2 picks next year not one, but a QB like TJ is well worth 2 late round picks anyway, so good deal
Smith is not a QB just listed that way to play roster games. He is a WR. So we still only have the normal amount of QBs
Kept a kick off specialist not a return guy. Still a break even because if they cut the kicker they would have needed to keep a coverage specialist, who yes you have been a WR but not a good one. Plus side we could have the BEST kickoff guy in the league our kicker of the future, and a long field goal guy.
The DBs that are hurt, yea so that happens in the league and these guys should not be cut.
Who care about Sanders he was not 1 of the top 4 OT anyway he can try again next year. Are you saying he is not hurt? does not make sense. BTW he was a 5 round pick
5th and 6th round picks didnt make the team. They kept all the OL and LBs that was expected. The coaches feel that thay have better players at those positions, so what should they do with them?
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Be fair, it's not that simple. Roster decisions are made as a whole. Because we need to carry more DBs due to injury and the new IR rule, and because we chose to carry 4 QB and a kickoff specialist, we wound up making some decisions that might not work to the long term good of the team - such as cutting our 5th and 6th round draft picks and IR'ing one of our 4th (quick: what body part did he injure?), as well as paring our WR corps to the bone. I'm sure the coaches and staff thought long and hard before making their choices. Essentially the QB and other roster decisions cost them 3 draft picks (this year's 5th and 6th, plus whatever they gave for Tarvaris) in addition to Thigpen's salary and season-long access to our 4th round pick.
Could you explain?
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Because we're playing one of the most important games of the year against a tough blitzing defense on Sunday and we only have one healthy QB besides Thigpen that knows the plays.
Hey, that sounds like it makes sense now... lol
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If another team has injury trouble he could have some trade value.
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Gee, buddy sucks.. lol Just think if they drafted him instead of tank we could say they know how to draft.
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To use another player to determine if Graham is a reach or not is pointless!! At this point it looks as if Graham will not only make the team but will also contribute. So, if Graham can contribute and his speed stretches defenses he is not a reach in the 3rd, he was a GREAT pick!!
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Wrong on both counts there.
Trent Edwards didn't beat out VY, it was a 1 year contract that expired. Thigpen didn't beat out young either, I'm not sure where you got that idea, however if you had followed this situation in the pre-season you would realize that it's just simple incorrect.
Thigpen didn't even play in the last preseason game, and Gailey himself even said Young has outplayed Thigpen. Jackson was brought in to replace Young as the #2. The only way Thigpen makes the team, is to buy Jackson enough time to get caught up.
Obviously the FO/Coaches think Jackson is better than young, or this wouldn't have happened. My point was that we are just replacing one poor QB, with another poor QB who has no knowledge of our system or any practice time, however it has now costs us draft picks and more money.
considering Young was cut and TT is still on the roster means young was beat out by TT.
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Great move by the FO!! If they thought TT was a capable backup VY would not have been brought in. After seeing VY play if they didnt do something then we would know that Buddy is asleep at the wheel.
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I can't wait to see what Mario does in game 1.
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Crazy to say why didnt they draft Aaron Hernandez he was taken in the 4th round!! So, every team passed on him 3 times and some 4 times. If the Pats thought he would have turned out so good do you think they would have waited? Not to mention if most other teams had taken him he may not be a star.
When they took Troup they were in desperate need of a interior D line to stop the run. So to take someone at any other position would have been crazy. No reason to think he would have the injury trouble, and when he has been able to play he looked promising. If after the 2 yeas they have had them if they thought he couldnt play he would have been cut not put on IR.
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It doesn't matter what the cap is. We also want to sign Byrd and/or Levitre before the end of this season. Why waste 2.5 million dollars on a player you're never going to play, you don't even want, just for a week or two on the team? Has nothing to do with anyone being cheap, just about risk and reward, and spending money wisely or wasting it. It would be WAY different if we didn't owe Thigpen 2.5 million, his entire contract, for that one or two weeks. That's a waste, IMO.
First off all of this is opinion anyway.
QB is the most important position on the team! To worry about signing players next year at the expense of starting the season without a backup QB would be irresponsible.
Yes, it would be great if TJ could come in and learn enough to to play week 1. Then TT could be cut to save the money.
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How about because not cutting Thigpen before the season starts costs the team 250 million cents?
The team is way under the cap.
Funny if the bills dont sign someone "Ralf is cheep" I guess many bills fans are too.
Hey some fans might think its a good idea to only have 1 real QB on the roster that knows the playbook.
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It might be best to keep TT until TJ is up to speed in a few weeks. So, this means 1 less guy at another position for a couple of weeks, not a big deal. Being too quick to cut a QB is reckless, you cant ask a guy to go out there and fake it at QB and and expect to win.
A lot of guys on the board are cut happy with out reason that makes any cents.
The ones that got away
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very well said!!!!
but if we are going to talk about the woulda, coulda, shouldas Kurt warner was avalible a couple times!!!!