Mango

Hamlin was the nail in the coffin for the season. But we’ve been plying bad football for a few months now.

I think the reality lies somewhere between the Jets and Bills draft order. Beanes reference to the Bengals feels disingenuous . We don’t need to be in the position we are in. He doesn’t need to be fired today. But he absolutely has to be much better going forward.

Edmunds and Oliver aren’t chief complaints. Rousseau, Basham, AJE, etc. as a whole unit are. Wed be in a great spot if the talent of Oliver and Edmunds were our number one concerns.

Meh, I think that is old timey. Tennessee just hired a new GM. Teams can structure their totem pole how they wish. The 2017 draft was OK.

When he gets to the point he cannot turn it around. The bottom started to fall out of the foundation of the team. He likely has an opportunity to hit one last draft out of the park. At which point I believe McD stays and BB hits the road if he fails.

Let me start by saying that I totally understand that you cannot hit on every pick. But I think this answer is way too simplistic. We don't have too many holes because of the salary cap. We have too many holes because of. Singletary, Moss, Cook, Bernard, Basham, Brown, AJE, Oliver, Ford, Philips, and Elam have not provided enough impact. That is 11 of Beanes 15 total selections he has made in the top 100 of the NFL draft. KC had all 10 draft picks make their roster this year. That is certainly an anomaly, but ultimately that is where we are losing ground. Bad drafts and expensive FA to make up for them. When the dust settles this offseason, the Bills may very well have 1 or 2 players on their roster from the 2019 draft. Come time to extend the 2020 class we could very well be down to Tyler Bass and Gabe Davis.

Is this true? I cannot find a single source talking about Frazier's contract at any point in his Buffalo tenure.

We have been sitting receiving backs sense McD and Daboll got here. I am so perplexed by the constant need to go find it but never indicate any need/want for it. I have no idea if this is on Beane or coaching.

I think some of the offense is on Allen. He is just so unwilling to get rid of the ball quickly and/or take what is underneath. None of the Bengals game is on Allen though. I am talking season at large. Allen is a stud with some kinks. Ultimately it is Dorsey's job to reign him in and he didn't. I think there is also a little bit of "we have been figured out". Unsure how much of that is the offense or Allen himself.

There were dozens of posters all season long that were convinced the Bills struggles on offense during the regular season was because they were saving it for the playoffs.

I think its time McD take over play calling full time. Start there. Philly runs the same scheme. It isn't a cover 3 issue. It is calling the right defense at the right times.

I would like to upgrade, OG x2 RT WR2 WR3 RB DTx2 DE CB2 SS Should be a busy offseason.....

I think there is room to upgrade/replace both coordinators. But I am really frustrated with the FO that we are in this position. I just don't get how we got so tight against the cap and so many draft picks that have just been role players. We can replace all the coordinators we want, but it doesn't change the fact that we have neglected WR and OL for 4 years and gotten no return on a billion draft picks spent on DL.

Did he call the plays in SD? I think I’m firmly in the “OK?” Column of when it comes to hiring Reich. But I won’t be pounding the table for him. Apparently he didn’t call plays in Philly. Then they sucked when he brought Wentz back to Indy. I would be tempted to think Pederson is the secret sauce based on that.

I’d imagine he stays around Daboll if that’s the case. When Daboll left there were whispers some weren’t happy with some things at OBD. To the extent that Dorsey seriously considered following Daboll rather than working with Allen. I don’t see Webb coming back.

Unpopular opinion, I don’t know what to think of Frank as an OC. He was Manning’s QB coach. 2 mediocre years with the Chargers. One bad year with Wentz, one good year with Foles. Than his recent stint in Indy. Outside of Frank being Frank, what’s the hype as an OC?

On the bright side, anybody on the wait list for season tickets should have little issue this offseason.

Beane deserves an opportunity to get this pointed in the right direction. But for that to happen he has to be a different GM. Fingers crossed.

This. We have heavy cap restrictions and major needs at multiple position groups. Good drafting was supposed to make losing players due to the cap more palatable. Beane has only re-signed Allen and Knox from our top 100 picks. Philips walked. Likely Singletary walks. Ford is gone. Oliver likely walks. I just don’t understand how we are so strapped.

We split the Jets, as as close as we were to being 3-0 against the Dolphins, they were just as close to being 3-0 against us. I don’t think it’s a cakewalk.

I think Bush and their kid spend the year in FL and come up on weekends. All the things I could dislike about Rachel Bush, I think it’s logical to want your husband home all year.

That was the joke. This staff, either McDermott or Beane have been hell bent on getting in a receiving RB. Yeldon had 500 receiving yards the year before getting here but was regularly a healthy scratch. I feel the same about TE2. We rarely target our super athletic TE1. Even if we cloned Knox, it wouldn’t change anything.

This is where I am at too. He looked like a deer in headlights today. Beane has been good for us and the turnaround. But when I look at the Bengals and Chiefs, their recent drafts, and upcoming cap space to keep the train on the tracks I have some major concerns about how we keep up. I am not sure Beane has done anything worthy of being let go immediately. But he’s proven he hasn’t had the ability to keep up? I think he gets another draft before he is on the hot seat. And he has to hit it out of the park. But in his words we are are currently in a bit of cap hell plus compounding bad drafts. Maybe he’ll finally land that elusive receiving RB, and finally everything will come together!

I am super frustrated. I think some seats are likely getting warm for a few people at OBD. But Christ, 11.5 of their last 12 years of hockey ownership makes me terrified to charge them with hiring a new FO/Coaching staff for the Bills.

My “maybe it will all be ok” moment is that we’re a 13-3 team with the QB in place. I don’t know if we have the horses in the stable but we have a chance.