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My stance is to run the direction of your first paragraph. I am fine with "easily upgradable". Fine go do it. But the guys you want to target are $15-20M+ per year. If we need two $20M WR we don't have a WR problem, we have a QB problem. I don't believe we have a QB problem. If we can get Mike Evans on an $8-12M deal go for it. Otherwise I have no interest in mortgaging 2024 and 2025 cap space for a WR when both OL and DL suck. Wholeheartedly agree that we need a starting slot WR and a change in offensive philosophy. As a guy who watches the A22 every week I am unsure if offensive philosophy is the the total issue. My dumb fan eyes have been telling me the same thing Kurt Warner did at the end of the year, and that is that Allen needs to make the QB position easier and see what the defense is giving him. There is certainly a ton of blame on OC, but Allen deserves a bit as well. My plan wouldn't be to just run it back. We have seen over and over again that teams who spread the ball out to tons of WR, RB, TE, etc have pretty solid post season success. And in that environment Gabe Davis is just fine as a cog in the machine. Upgrade OL and the slot.

Right, that’s the joke I was making….

I don’t think Davis is a world beater. I do think he’s fine. A guy you upgrade when the opportunity presents itself but you dot. Spend a lot of time, money, or resources doing so. Even if you are championship team. I disagree with the bolded. Davis is fine. Having a WR 1a/1b isn’t the norm for any QB post rookie contract. It just isn’t. Mahomes didn’t have a WR with more than 4TD receptions, but Davis isn’t good enough? Fix the OL. Fix the play calling. Get Allen seeing the field better. And we’ll stop caring about Gabe Davis so much.

The most pressing needs for the Bills offense are OL, Slot receiver, Play calling, QB decision making. Spending a lot of resources upgrading Gabe Davis seems like a waste if you could spend thenupgrading the above. (I know you can’t upgrade play calling or QB decision making with money or draft picks)

Give him a break. He just learned about the internet.

Man, being Josh Allen’s college roommate sure has its perks. Make NFL practice squad money. Dress for3 NFL games. Even get to play 20 snaps.

Remember where you heard it first folks. Beef Curtains… Thanks for the insight!

My big thing is return on investment. If the DL and our outside corners were lights out we’d have little complaint. But here we are 8 weeks from the draft and we still have to address the secondary and defensive line as well as our ignored OL.

We don’t have any money. We will have to borrow from 2025 to field a roster.

Diggs is one of the most targeted players in the league. Justin Jefferson gets 1.5 balls thrown to him per game. Not catches, but attempts. Jefferson was targeted more than anybody in the league this year, and had the 11th most targets in league history. Ever. The Bills don’t have a problem targeting Stefon Diggs. No matter how much Diggs says it’s a problem. It’s not. 2 pass attempts (not catches) per game would make be historical for Diggs. This conversation drives me nuts. The entire offense runs through Diggs. If anything this team needs to spread the ball out more. There are no more realistic attempts for Diggs. He already gets them all.

Why are you so contentious about having any conversation at all. I never said they were a juggernaut. Like at all. They’re a middling team in a log jam of middling teams in a fight for the last playoff spot.

Interesting wording because they have more wins than DET and also played one less game.

I mean, the first thing they did after the SB was sign a core special teamer. I don’t anticipate them doing anything different. Edit: I don’t think taking offense v defense early in the draft constitutes a meaningful change in philosophy. Rather roster spots for core special teamers who don’t contribute elsewhere. Play calling. Getting rookies involved early and often. Etc.

Gotta load up on special teamers…. Ugh.

I agree. I find Edmunds a slightly frustrating player, but he plays a major role here. It isn't just one more replacement. It would mean that Beane will have only re-signed 2 of his top 100 picks that he drafted. Knox and Allen. Certainly there are a bunch on the roster that have not come due. But he will have drafted and let Edmunds and Philips walk. We expect him to also let Oliver and Singletary walk. He already cut/traded Ford and Moss. Assuming the above happens the Bills will be left with AJE, Basham, Spencer Brown, Rousseau, Elam, Cook, and Bernard. Woof Edit: There is a reasonable case to also let Brown, AJE, Basham, and Bernard walk based on play to day.

Yes. Whats your point?

Andy Reid is one of the most weirdly fat people I’ve seen. It’s insane.

I have been critical of Allen because he can be and needs to be better to beat Mahomes. But I wouldn’t trade him for almost anything. Unsure if you’re being serious or trolling.

I mean, Josh was the highest paid QB in the league when he signed his contract. I think there are some really bad QB contracts right now. I think Allen’s received a fair value contract. This makes it seem like he took some sort of Brady discount, which isn’t even close to the case. For reference there are only 3 teams in the league with the current cap space to fit in Allen’s 2023 cap number. It’s not cheap. But just about everybody would find a way to make it work.

Shakir. It’s a great throw. Great catch. But hard throw and hard catch. You can’t rely on those to get you through every drive.

I think Mahomes does a great job of spreading the ball around. Similar to Brady (barf) they force teams to cover everybody even if they are middling depth receivers. We don't do a good enough job at that. Sure the Chiefs highlight Kelce, but they throw the ball to anybody. For reference the Bills have 7 players who average one target per game. The Chiefs have 10. KC has 4 players with 50+ catches and another 4 with 30+. The Bills have 1 player with 50+ catches and 4 over 30. We don't really spread the ball around at all.

Allen has changed a lot of things about his game. We have to have faith this is one of them. There was that spoof QB room interview early in the season. One of the topics was "How much film you watch?". The entire interview was sarcasm and on that topic they talked about "all we do is watch film". Contextually I thought that that was super weird. It is a total tinfoil hat thought that I am not married too. But it got me thinking that I would actually like to know how much film Allen watched compared to his peers. TL:DR I would start with more film.

Plays like this happen every game if you watch the all-22. Dorsey needs to be better. The OL needs to be better. The WR needs to be better. But so does Allen. When we watch this live we think, "Great throw, great catch, I wish our guys could get as open as KC" because the broadcast tape stinks. But these throws happen all the time every week. Amazing play. But we talk about Dawkins and the throw and catch when Allen is 9 yards deep into the pocket and their is an easy TD to his right, making the whole thing tough on Dawkins and Davis. https://imgur.com/a/PG2vZc7

Given that Josh has had issues with zone defenses since entering the NFL, and was near the bottom of the league this year I would be tempted to guess it is the he has some issues understanding where to go with the ball. https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/josh-allen/ I totally agree. I think this is where it starts. His freak athleticism helps both create a lot of opportunities and mask deficiency.

This narrative drives me nuts. The staff needs to get better. The WR group needs to get better. The OL needs to get better. I don't shy away from any of that one bit. But to say that the issue with Allen is that he feels the weight of the world/everybody letting him down just isn't true. Allen has issues with seeing the field and decision making. His freak athleticism makes up for a lot of it. I watch the All-22 every week. And every week there are plays like the link below. Where live it looks like Allen HAS to thread the needle to Davis in the end zone because "nobody is open", and Dawkins didn't block the DE long enough. Or last night with KC's walk in TD "Why can't we give Allen that". We literally do, and he doesn't see it, or doesn't throw it in favor of the circus/throw and catch. I love Josh Allen, but every week I see plays like below over and over again. He needs to figure that out if we are going to catch Mahomes and the Chiefs. https://imgur.com/a/PG2vZc7 Edit: Sure that is great when you hit Davis like that in a super tight window for a TD. But it is a low percentage throw.When you inevitably start to miss those throws based on the general nature of them, you start to really stall a team for drives, games, or even seasons at a time.