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It’s not $40M. It’s $13M with a trade today, and that saves us about $1.5M. We would have to eat $31M next year in Dead cap. But that’s only $3M more than keeping him on the roster. It’s inconvenient, but possible. Diggs and Morse for Mike Evans and a 1. Trading Morse now frees up more space next year. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/stefon-diggs-16872/

If this is about target; there really aren’t any/many more to go around. I don’t know how you go about fixing this in that scenario. He was 4/10 35 yards vs Cincinnati in the playoffs. All this over targets/no targets on the 10 play drive down by 14? Come on. I hope it works out, but otherwise at some point you have to just say deuces.

Reading the tea leafs, it seems as though at least part of the issue is that Stef would like to ask to leave, but cannot?

You are moving the goal posts. My OP that you were responding to was that being correct doesn't excuse bad behavior. You said I was obtuse and to not compare it to desk jobs with low expectations. I said I wasn't, I am pretty qualified to talk about high level team building and construction. Now you want me to explain Diggs beef. I fully stand by the fact that being "right" is rarely a good excuse for being a distraction in team sport. Especially on high level teams competing for world championships.

I am not being obtuse. I was specifically speaking to athletics. But thanks.... I am not referencing desk jockey's. I am talking about real life world championship sports; a topic I am well qualified to speak on.

Sorry, that whole thing wasn't directed at you. Mostly the "well if he got the ball more, he wouldn't act this way" crowd.

First Half of the Season: 60/83, 857 yards, 7 TD's (3 TD vs TEN) Second Half of the Season: 48/71, 572 yards, 4 TD's Extrapolating both to full seasons, one is a top 10 season the other is top 3, and that is without adjusting for a 17th game. The Bills went 7-1 and averaged 29.75 points per game during the stretch Diggs hated so much. One more win and 1.5 more ppg than the first 8 games. I keep hearing that he wanted, or needed the ball more, but honestly, Diggs was 1 or two total passes thrown in his general direction from having the same amount of attention from his QB. He was only down about 1.5 targets per game from the first 8 games to the last 8 games. Is the baseline 11 targets per game? He only average 10 for the first 8 weeks. 11 per game is a top 10 targeted season. Even then most of those top 10 seasons are great players like Calvin Johnson on bad offenses. History cannot be the realistic baseline. I always want to know what is the quantifiable solution? No just "more" or "Diggs has to be involved". But an actual metric. That goes for Diggs himself. How many more targets can we realistically push in his direction? Are 1-2 targets per game moving the needle from nearly 30 points per game?

I don't know why this is parroted as gospel all the time. It maybe works if you are competing for the Monsignor Martin League Championship, but it basically stops there. Diggs behavior is something teams trying to win a World Championship generally try and keep out of their locker room, not something they embrace. Eventually that sort of attitude starts to weigh heavier on the team than his physical gifts. It happens all the time across all sorts of professional and Olympic sports. Being correct isn't, and has never ever been, a viable excuse for being a bad teammate.

No it doesn't. The entire synopsis is that when Diggs doesn't get what he wants he causes a scene like a toddler. This isn't how good teammates behave. It just isn't. This^^^^ He is a WR, not a QB. If he wants to be consulted like a QB he should either 1. learn throw a football or 2. go to a team with a much worse QB situation where he can be the focal point of all things from the hiring of the OC to how the GM spends their money in FA.....

His is 12th in cap hit this year. 5th next year (ahead of Mahomes), and 2nd in 2025. Only Watson's stupid contract carries a bigger cap number. We have barely entered his big contract years. He will have to have an extension to lessen what will likely be very heavy cap hits in the next few seasons. Sometimes AAV is good, sometimes it doesn't tell the whole story. Sure Allen's total value may or may not be worth more, but what matters is the yearly cap number and it is about to be very high very soon. Josh has a fair deal, but we aren't getting a mid tier QB contract coming down the pike any time soon. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/2025/cap-hit/quarterback/ https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/josh-allen-25102/cash-earnings/

I have all 22 and at no point did I think we ever needed Cole Beasley back.

Tomlin/Cowher also fit the bill. They struggled to get the job done with Ben.

McD is 6th longest tenured HC in the league. Of course he runs through a lot of assistants. Also Pete, BB, and the Walrus won’t be doing this forever. He could quickly find himself at number 3. Sean McVay is 7th which is crazy because he’s still one of the youngest coaches in the league.

There are a lot of questions around McD. The standards have changed since he was hired. He’s a good coach. But I’m not sure if he can get us to a SB parade. I sure hope he does. I have watched the Pegulas take 12 years to turn the Sabres around (hopefully). Because of that and the fact that I think more coaches are worse than McD than are better than him, replacing him is terrifying.

But he also didn’t participate in any 11 on 11. Because of new wrinkles in the offense? Didn’t Milano miss OTA’s? Did he sit out. I’m not sure the sky is falling. But something doesn’t smell right either. Diggs only costs us $4M off the roster rather than on the roster for 2024. Curious if part of the PR stuff is for a trade? Or if it’s just to try and smooth this all over. Everybody has been laying it on thick.

The FO is thinking of the future. Stef counts nearly $30M against the cap the next few seasons you can’t have a drop off with that type of allocation. It’s mostly tongue in cheek, but there’s some truth to that.

2 targets per game from being the 10th most targeted receiver in NFL history.

Somebody call Dan Brown, time to get Robert Langdon on the case!

Please don’t tell my boss I didn’t do anything.

Just a reminder that it has been 3 weeks and Dion is still fat. https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=802456134574073&set=pcb.802457531240600

I don't know the proper reaction to give this. My anxiety is killing me at the moment. The cucked comment is hilarious. Also, I hate PPP. I do generally agree with you. McD spilled over into the presser. But I also think there is more to it than you are giving it. Diggs and the FO likely had a discussion that didn't end well. These things sort of happen in sports sometimes, but to have this going on from last season, through the offseason, and into OTA's is wild.

Stef missed OTA's so he needed a day to catch up? Milano missed time at OTA's, did he sit out too? Lenard Floyd has never played here before and served a couple days at OTA's. Was he more ready than Diggs to participate today because he had a few days compared to Digg's few years?

I didn't buy that. He wasn't concerned at OTA's. When players miss practice for injury it is "one day at a time, we all have a job to do, all it means is reps for the next guy, etc. etc." Morse hit the nail on the head. "Diggs is an explosive personality and player". Von said, "you have to handle different personalities differently". The entire org from player to coach is trying to calm down Diggs explosiveness. We are getting cucked because of his contract and our cap situation.

I don't know about one game. But if I had to build a brand new team right now, I would likely take Shanahan. I wouldn't complain if I got Andy Reid either. But Shanahan Allen would be devastating.

I think the Bills will make themselves available only as much as they are contractually obligated for the rest of mini-camp. my $0.02