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Yes. Whats your point?

Andy Reid is one of the most weirdly fat people I’ve seen. It’s insane.

I have been critical of Allen because he can be and needs to be better to beat Mahomes. But I wouldn’t trade him for almost anything. Unsure if you’re being serious or trolling.

I mean, Josh was the highest paid QB in the league when he signed his contract. I think there are some really bad QB contracts right now. I think Allen’s received a fair value contract. This makes it seem like he took some sort of Brady discount, which isn’t even close to the case. For reference there are only 3 teams in the league with the current cap space to fit in Allen’s 2023 cap number. It’s not cheap. But just about everybody would find a way to make it work.

Shakir. It’s a great throw. Great catch. But hard throw and hard catch. You can’t rely on those to get you through every drive.

I think Mahomes does a great job of spreading the ball around. Similar to Brady (barf) they force teams to cover everybody even if they are middling depth receivers. We don't do a good enough job at that. Sure the Chiefs highlight Kelce, but they throw the ball to anybody. For reference the Bills have 7 players who average one target per game. The Chiefs have 10. KC has 4 players with 50+ catches and another 4 with 30+. The Bills have 1 player with 50+ catches and 4 over 30. We don't really spread the ball around at all.

Allen has changed a lot of things about his game. We have to have faith this is one of them. There was that spoof QB room interview early in the season. One of the topics was "How much film you watch?". The entire interview was sarcasm and on that topic they talked about "all we do is watch film". Contextually I thought that that was super weird. It is a total tinfoil hat thought that I am not married too. But it got me thinking that I would actually like to know how much film Allen watched compared to his peers. TL:DR I would start with more film.

Plays like this happen every game if you watch the all-22. Dorsey needs to be better. The OL needs to be better. The WR needs to be better. But so does Allen. When we watch this live we think, "Great throw, great catch, I wish our guys could get as open as KC" because the broadcast tape stinks. But these throws happen all the time every week. Amazing play. But we talk about Dawkins and the throw and catch when Allen is 9 yards deep into the pocket and their is an easy TD to his right, making the whole thing tough on Dawkins and Davis. https://imgur.com/a/PG2vZc7

Given that Josh has had issues with zone defenses since entering the NFL, and was near the bottom of the league this year I would be tempted to guess it is the he has some issues understanding where to go with the ball. https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/josh-allen/ I totally agree. I think this is where it starts. His freak athleticism helps both create a lot of opportunities and mask deficiency.

This narrative drives me nuts. The staff needs to get better. The WR group needs to get better. The OL needs to get better. I don't shy away from any of that one bit. But to say that the issue with Allen is that he feels the weight of the world/everybody letting him down just isn't true. Allen has issues with seeing the field and decision making. His freak athleticism makes up for a lot of it. I watch the All-22 every week. And every week there are plays like the link below. Where live it looks like Allen HAS to thread the needle to Davis in the end zone because "nobody is open", and Dawkins didn't block the DE long enough. Or last night with KC's walk in TD "Why can't we give Allen that". We literally do, and he doesn't see it, or doesn't throw it in favor of the circus/throw and catch. I love Josh Allen, but every week I see plays like below over and over again. He needs to figure that out if we are going to catch Mahomes and the Chiefs. https://imgur.com/a/PG2vZc7 Edit: Sure that is great when you hit Davis like that in a super tight window for a TD. But it is a low percentage throw.When you inevitably start to miss those throws based on the general nature of them, you start to really stall a team for drives, games, or even seasons at a time.

I don't know what you are trying to say here?

Totally agree. He is capable!

It isn't that Josh is in a lesser tier. At this point I think it is that Mahomes is just in his own ranking.

OMG, I thought The Who were a terrible half time show. I like all the artists from 2005-2010, but I didn't like most of them as half time shows at all. Except for Prince, that was awesome! I am not a huge Rihanna fan in general. I liker her genre, and I actually do think a bunch of her songs bops. But I saw too many videos of her botched vocals to be a fan of her talent or lack there of. I just think she is a benefactor of the Jay-Z machine, who I do really love! I don't love The Weekend either. It just all feels like he is forcing me to sit passenger in some weird heroin trip he is on. Other than that I think the NFL has gotten a lot of the halftime shows right recently. Last years show was phenomenal!

So the best of the best of Allen as a player is better than Kelly. But as a career? Kelly has a better career to date. Allen has to play at his best for quite a bit longer to be in the HoF conversation.

The NFL mandates a vocal track, that includes Prince and Springsteen. The one thing you do get from both of those guys that are real is their guitar solos.

Personnel? OL, first and foremost. Philosophically, stop trying to score a TD on every single play.

I absolutely hate the "what if's". The Bills lost in the divisional rounds, they weren't 13 seconds away from winning the Super Bowl. There was another 2 hours of play after that to crown a champion. I am a firm believer that in order to get better you need to an honest inventory of the situation and 13 seconds away from a Lombardi is far far from that. I understand that we are fans, not employees or players. But it is something I whole heartedly subscribe to.

It feels like @FireChans is saying one thing and you are taking it and running too far with it. Favre is great. Had a great career. Belongs in the pantheon of QB folklore. But nobody is mistaking Favre for a top 5 QB. If you gave Belichick Favre, they would be a really good team still, and Favre might have a better career, but he still wouldn't be better than Brady That is what the comparison to Mahomes and Allen is. Allen is great. Love him. Love it. But ultimately Mahomes is the better QB by a wide margin, even in comparison to other great QB's. I think if Mahomes ended his career tomorrow he is likely a first ballot HoF'er. Allen would not be close. Part of that is environment, and part of that is the player. The current version of Hurts is going to hold the Eagles back once he gets his big deal. He puts his receivers in too many difficult positions. He has a lot of talent around him that makes up for that, but once he gets paid he will have to make due with less. Nothing I saw last night tells me he is capable of that.

I imagine there will be some swings as we get through FA and the draft. The Bills have Allen which will always keep them in the conversation. There seem to be a lot of up and coming young QB's, but the Bills have been a pretty stable org under McDermott. I think that will keep them ranked high among gamblers even though fans feel like we lost a few steps on KC.

I think it will take 2-3 season to reset the roster and lap the chiefs. They seem pretty cush with their roster, UFA's, and cap space for the next 2-3 seasons while the Bills will need to either borrow from 3-4 seasons away or take 2-3 to reset and regroup.

Big Josh Allen fan! But he needs to be better in a few areas if we are going to compete consistently with KC. Right now Mahomes is the best QB in the league by some margin. There is a second premier tier with Allen and Burrow some distance back. I think if Mahomes retired tomorrow he is in the HoF.

None of that is relevant. Nobody is arguing that Allen isn't the best player the franchise has had. This all started because I said that Hurts helps his OL by getting the ball out much quicker than Allen does. And you wanted to show me PFF that says our OL sucks, and now we are talking about Allen being the best player. You are just yelling at clouds dude.

Mahomes mentioned that he told the WR's at half time "Make them cover everybody". This is part of why Kelce is so good. Mahomes will throw the ball to any receiver, at any depth, on any route. Meanwhile we just heave the ball 30 yards down field to the same 2-3 guys over and over and over and over and over and over again.

I have a PFF membership as well. Do you or are you just regurgitating the tweet? I don't hate them as much as others, but they certainly aren't the bible either. I hope you two brought the same pro PFF energy when they said Allen sucked year after year. And stood so strong by them when they said he would not become the player he was today. There is room for a lot to be true. Allen holds the ball far too long, he is slow to read the field (especially against zone), and he regularly either looks past the guys underneath to throw the homerun ball. It doesn't do his OL any favors. Allen is a good QB who needs to be more decisive ANNNNND the offensive line can still suck.