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This is silly. This is an internet message board and a huge part of being a fan of any sport is talking shop, discussing, arguing, disagreeing. One TE giving an opinion shouldn’t end any conversation around any football team. Beane liked Terrel Bernard enough to pick him. I thought it was dumb. Stupid me for disagreeing with Beane I guess. Because football professional and all….

I think YOLO has a bot set up That automatically posts breaking news. I “think” (ouch) he mentioned that when I asked him years ago how he was so quick. @YoloinOhio I am running with this as full truth until you come tell me I am an idiot.

I think less success is relative. My guess is 10 or 11 wins with a bit of drama and dysfunction.

If only worried about stuff I could control I wouldn’t be on an internet message board about my favorite sports team.

I don’t disagree with any of this. But I also don’t think it’s an honest inventory of the situation. I don’t give a Schitts Creek it Diggs goes to Terry and says everything needs to change. I don’t care if he sits down with Dorsey and tells him he needs to be better. But that’s not what we’re discussing. We’re talking about Diggs publicly undressing either Allen, Dorsey, McD, or Beane. Maybe some combination of some or all. We’re talking about him bailing on his teammates post game and locker clean out then gaslighting everybody with tweets about how he is supposed to be ok with losing. As if that’s the only other option. We’re talking about swipes about offensive vs defensive coaches. I can’t recall a player in another sport behaving like that and it leading to winning a championship. Maybe Jordan or Kobe? in order to get away with it you need to be on the GOAT conversation. Diggs is another 5-7 years of his current production away from being a HoF player let alone a GOAT receiver. Leaders of World Championship teams don’t behave this way. I want Diggs here. But I’m over his toxicity. He’ll have to shape up or he’ll be near the epicenter of a Bills implosion.

I have no doubt that Diggs believes he’s doing the right thing. Of course he does. It’s actually part of the problem.The issue is his behavior sucks and is detrimental to the players around him. His role is WR. Not FO. Not GM. Not owner. Not coach. He doesn’t have control over any of that. Creating a toxic work environment doesn’t do any good. Go publicly scream about your direct manager or SVP and see how that goes over. At every National Sales Meeting I’ve ever been to somebody inevitably acts like Diggs over a cocktail or two, the wrong person hears, and year in year out quality employees get fired for being unprofessional.

If only somebody would have given him a shot in the NFL. Imagine if this guy had access to NFL coaching in 2017, 2018, 2019, 2021, and 2022. Somebody give this man a shot!

This was supposed to be a reset year for the Chiefs and they won the whole thing. It is a huge part of my frustration with the state of the Bills roster at the moment. In a lot of years I would be much higher on the Bills than I am now. We’ve lost a lot of distance on KC at the moment. The conference runs through Arrowhead at the moment. It didn’t have to be that way.

I have been a part of a lot of really successful teams. Ultimately competing at that level is a profession. There’s certainly a casualness to athletics, but it’s still a profession. I know about 15-20 world champions, world record holders, and Olympic gold medalists. If any of them acted like Diggs has been I would likely know zero of them. It’s just not how teammates behave over long periods of time and find success at the worlds largest stages. He has got to find a way to be a better teammate.

Great post. I came to say the same. New Orleans proved you can navigate huge amounts of negative cap space. But they also proved that the Bill will eventually come due over the course of one or multiple seasons. Ultimately the Bills have to make some moves that may make the roster worse and in 2024 KC has $85M more cap dollars than the Buffalo Bills. And no matter how much they try, they won’t be able to outspend that difference between them next off season.

My stance is to run the direction of your first paragraph. I am fine with "easily upgradable". Fine go do it. But the guys you want to target are $15-20M+ per year. If we need two $20M WR we don't have a WR problem, we have a QB problem. I don't believe we have a QB problem. If we can get Mike Evans on an $8-12M deal go for it. Otherwise I have no interest in mortgaging 2024 and 2025 cap space for a WR when both OL and DL suck. Wholeheartedly agree that we need a starting slot WR and a change in offensive philosophy. As a guy who watches the A22 every week I am unsure if offensive philosophy is the the total issue. My dumb fan eyes have been telling me the same thing Kurt Warner did at the end of the year, and that is that Allen needs to make the QB position easier and see what the defense is giving him. There is certainly a ton of blame on OC, but Allen deserves a bit as well. My plan wouldn't be to just run it back. We have seen over and over again that teams who spread the ball out to tons of WR, RB, TE, etc have pretty solid post season success. And in that environment Gabe Davis is just fine as a cog in the machine. Upgrade OL and the slot.

Right, that’s the joke I was making….

I don’t think Davis is a world beater. I do think he’s fine. A guy you upgrade when the opportunity presents itself but you dot. Spend a lot of time, money, or resources doing so. Even if you are championship team. I disagree with the bolded. Davis is fine. Having a WR 1a/1b isn’t the norm for any QB post rookie contract. It just isn’t. Mahomes didn’t have a WR with more than 4TD receptions, but Davis isn’t good enough? Fix the OL. Fix the play calling. Get Allen seeing the field better. And we’ll stop caring about Gabe Davis so much.

The most pressing needs for the Bills offense are OL, Slot receiver, Play calling, QB decision making. Spending a lot of resources upgrading Gabe Davis seems like a waste if you could spend thenupgrading the above. (I know you can’t upgrade play calling or QB decision making with money or draft picks)

Give him a break. He just learned about the internet.

Man, being Josh Allen’s college roommate sure has its perks. Make NFL practice squad money. Dress for3 NFL games. Even get to play 20 snaps.

Remember where you heard it first folks. Beef Curtains… Thanks for the insight!

My big thing is return on investment. If the DL and our outside corners were lights out we’d have little complaint. But here we are 8 weeks from the draft and we still have to address the secondary and defensive line as well as our ignored OL.

We don’t have any money. We will have to borrow from 2025 to field a roster.

Diggs is one of the most targeted players in the league. Justin Jefferson gets 1.5 balls thrown to him per game. Not catches, but attempts. Jefferson was targeted more than anybody in the league this year, and had the 11th most targets in league history. Ever. The Bills don’t have a problem targeting Stefon Diggs. No matter how much Diggs says it’s a problem. It’s not. 2 pass attempts (not catches) per game would make be historical for Diggs. This conversation drives me nuts. The entire offense runs through Diggs. If anything this team needs to spread the ball out more. There are no more realistic attempts for Diggs. He already gets them all.

Why are you so contentious about having any conversation at all. I never said they were a juggernaut. Like at all. They’re a middling team in a log jam of middling teams in a fight for the last playoff spot.

Interesting wording because they have more wins than DET and also played one less game.

I mean, the first thing they did after the SB was sign a core special teamer. I don’t anticipate them doing anything different. Edit: I don’t think taking offense v defense early in the draft constitutes a meaningful change in philosophy. Rather roster spots for core special teamers who don’t contribute elsewhere. Play calling. Getting rookies involved early and often. Etc.

Gotta load up on special teamers…. Ugh.

I agree. I find Edmunds a slightly frustrating player, but he plays a major role here. It isn't just one more replacement. It would mean that Beane will have only re-signed 2 of his top 100 picks that he drafted. Knox and Allen. Certainly there are a bunch on the roster that have not come due. But he will have drafted and let Edmunds and Philips walk. We expect him to also let Oliver and Singletary walk. He already cut/traded Ford and Moss. Assuming the above happens the Bills will be left with AJE, Basham, Spencer Brown, Rousseau, Elam, Cook, and Bernard. Woof Edit: There is a reasonable case to also let Brown, AJE, Basham, and Bernard walk based on play to day.