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FWIW, I mentioned the Britt Will/Allen bartender baby to a good friend Justin now. I thought it was sorta wild rumor mill stuff. She immediately responded “I’ve known for months. It’s actually a friend of a friend. Just wasn’t my story to tell” I don’t know what’s what for details, as I didn’t pry. But I’d say there’s very real teeth to at least a portion of this.

The difference between both Sabrespace and TBD is funny. I made an off color joke based on somebody's phrasing and I got a slap on the wrist from a mod. Over hear you get all the fake internet points. I do appreciate that neither devolve into any wild crassness.....even though that is how I communicate in real life.

Most of the time restructure language is included in the original contract and do not require player approval. He likely didn’t agree to anything outside of his extension. I’m not claiming this tweet means he’s unhappy. But his restructure isn’t an example of good faith either.

Knox’s route percentage is also pretty high as well. It’s not an opportunity issue. It’s a target issue.

I’m on the waitlist for 5. Based on the no go on 4, and couldn’t find room for 3 together, I doubt we’re getting off. I know the cap is 4. I just casually asked the rep for 5 for my BIL and he was like “oh, ok that’s no problem”

Saying we need more talent at WR is way different than advocating for 2 x $20M WR's which is what I am specifically speaking towards. I am all for getting more talent in house through under valued players on other rosters and the draft. Robert Woods never had a double digit cap number in LAR. Kupp was $5.3M against the cap when they won the SB. Stafford, Woods, Kupp totaled $31.17M The total cap hit for Gronk, Evans, Godwin, Brown in 2020 was a whopping $21.218M. Add Brady and it goes up to $46.2M. As it stands right now Allen, Diggs, Hopkins would eat $52.95M of cap space. For fun you can add Dawson Knox for better comparison to that TB team and that number jumps to $59.38M

That is a super broad brush. Big money never hit for all three of those guys in the same season. And when the time came, they got rid of Tyreek. The very first time Mahomes cap hit was over $7.5M was in 2022. That is right Mahomes cost less than $7.5M every season until this passed season....where they moved on from Tyreek Hill, their expensive WR. This is literally my point. You do not pay all 3 top dollar at the same time. If you want to have a conversation around surround Josh with more talent, I am fine with that. Go draft a guy high, pay him big money when Diggs contract is up. But stop pretending everybody is paying multiple receivers $20M to play on the same team with a big QB contract too.

I agree. Sorry, I left out "why do we need to draft another RB high." I can see value in a day 3 player.

Ummm soooo.... Chase, Higgins, nor Kelce make anything close to that, at least in cap dollars. And once it comes time to pay Chase/Higgins CIN won't keep both. And when the bill came due for Hill they shipped him off. On top of that, Kelce has cost more than $10M just 3 times in his career to date and that hit came in 2018, 2019, and 2020. All of which were around $10-11M. Even with that low number, KC still moved on from Hill in favor of allocating cap dollars elsewhere and relying on rookies/young WR. QB's who command high value contracts do not have multiple high value WR. They just don't. When you make huge money playing behind center part of the deal is doing more with less. That is not a criticism of Allen, it is just part of the responsibility of the contract. And as you unintentionally pointed out, half of those receivers will not be staying on the same pay roll as their very expensive QB's and other expensive counterparts. Go ahead and draft some guys. Do it regularly. Criticize Beane for not doing it. That is fine. But pounding the table that the only solution to the offense is to spend $80M+ on 2 WR and a QB is insane. If that is what it takes for your offense to run effectively at least one of those guys is way over paid.

Because QB’s on giant contracts don’t get two $20M WR. Davis showed a lot of promise, they were right to give him a shot. I still think Davis can be a very productive with a change in offensive philosophy, QB decision making, and OL upgrades. I’ll say it for the 100th time, if the solution for the offense with a $40M QB is 2 x $20M WR’s, you don’t have a WR problem. And I don’t think we have a problem at QB. That said, I have no issue with grabbing a WR in the top 100 on a relatively regular basis.

Maybe Jalen Hurts can wear 1 and Mariota can wear 01. Totally different numbers.

We have Cook, Harris, and Hines. I’m not exactly sure why we need another RB.

I think that they can trade him for less than that if he doesn’t sign the tag, right? I think the Ravens still hold his rights, he’s not just a UFA right now.

Does anybody else think Saleh is on the juice?

I think one hand washes the other. The OL gets Allen to be antsy, but Allen has had issues with holding onto the ball too long since the day he entered the league. It was the big part of the reason we were OK with his low completion percentage coming into the league. He takes a lot of low percentage shots down field, regardless of what is going on underneath. Those throws require him to stand in the pocket longer. The longer he is in the pocket, the more he exposes an already struggling OL. The OL is not good enough. But Allen putting a little Brady or Fitz into his game would ease a lot of ills as well.

I think there is an ocean between the "Allen is to blame" and the "OL, WR, RB, OC" is to blame crowd. We need to get some help. But Allen has a tendency to take off a lot more often than he actually needs to, even when he has guys open and/or not under pressure. I think that is a reasonable criticism actually. It just isn't the only problem. There is a sweet spot in the middle here where the truth lies. We need help on the OL. Allen needs to see the field a bit better/be a better decision maker. Dorsey needs to be a better play caller.

Wow, the disrespect towards Tyler Matakevich is absolutely unreal.

Who gets signed first, Carson Wentz or Lamar Jackson?

I never thought I would say this, but I think that Lamar could more or less negotiate himself out of the league.

I don't have to imagine. We experience 20 years of Brady/Belichick. I know exactly how they feel.

I think there is a lot of nuance to the Josh should/shouldn’t run critique. - He doesn’t run like Mahomes. A lot of the time he isn’t evading pressure, picking up positive yards, and getting out of bounds. He almost seeks out contact like Lynch or AP. - Josh takes off to run when he doesn’t see the whole field. - The OL sucks. Josh needs to take off less/see the field better and get down/out of bounds when he does. AND we need to fix the OL. All of those things are true.

I think the ranch v. blue cheese issue should only apply to wings, where blue cheese reigns supreme. Ranch is tasty and has its place high in the dipping sauce pecking order.

This is what I’ve been saying. And it’s not that I am against signing Miller or Hopkins. But I thought we had the opportunity to have a light reset last year. That would have provided us the ability to stabilize the roster for the next 2-3 years. But the longer you kick the can down the road the more the arrow moves from light reset to hard reset and you become the Rams. I am not against signing Hopkins. But I also know what that means.

Whelp....

Crowder, Hodgins, McKenzie. He is likely 3rd on the depth chart.