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Diggs is in full on prove a point mode. But I agree, I’m not even sure Diggs is exactly sure of what the point is anymore. Right now I think he’s locked in on “I am HIM, so you better start treating me like HIM”.

Maybe he is just wildly embarrassed that his all star basketball game could barely fill a HS gym to 50% capacity? Diggs isn’t the national draw he thinks he is fame wise. I think Gabe Davis is more “famous. Davis is rolling with Jay-Z, Bert Kreicher, Von Miller, and a bunch of other people who are at or near the top of the pop culture and sports pyramid at the moment. Diggs isn’t. Stef is wildly talented. He’s an all pro. But he’s not famous like other players are. It was meant to be was a tongue in cheek joke about Diggs. But it’s also true.

But he has to know his contract is wildly prohibitive. I agree with you, but hope the Bills sit on his rights for eternity.

I am out of pocket so I can’t play around with it, but I’m curious what restructures and additions to a trade could get the Bills to break even cap wise. Diggs/Oliver (new deal?), for Evans, 1st, and a 2nd? Diggs is crazy cheap for any buyer. The Bills eat a huge portion of the bonus.

At this point it doesn’t matter who it’s about in the org. Whoever it is is on a scale somewhere between bad and worse.

None of this is new. Beane deserves a ton of criticism for restructuring without cleaning this up first. Im not happy with Stef. But Beane is a major piece to this as well. This is going to cost us $6-8M more than it should if we don’t fix it.

I am just piecing this together with everybody else. But if I had to guess… Allen (Von?) saying they totally support Diggs and what he’s doing is where Diggs takes issue. He doesn’t feel like they have his back in Diggs complaints to getting a seat at the table. I get it to an extent. But also, Diggs abandoned the team when they were down after that game and didn’t show up to locker clean out. From somebody who managed a lot of high level teams I likely wouldn’t have proactively searched his opinion on anything either. I don’t think you can discuss the offseason coaching changes and Diggs involvement without talking about how he behaved after the CIN game.

As this comes together it feels like a lot of credence to the fact that Diggs is pissed about not being consulted internally. And maybe he’s saying Josh saying he supports Stef is a bunch of lies. Which is fair. But not fair enough to cause all those noise the last few months. Also, when you sprint out of the stadium in your pads after a tough loss; then don’t come back for locker clean out day, going off the grid, I certainly understand not going to Stef about much of anything. I assume Josh likely said something similar.

I am letting people tell lies without correcting them. If lies help the big man sleep, the big man can keep telling lies.

Your franchise QB knows everything going on in the organization. Your WR1 gets consulted on something’s but not everything. While I understand Diggs frustration, he’s also been consulted on which WR enter the WR room, like OBJ and Nuke. Not being treated like a franchise QB is something he is going to have to get used to.

Through all of this, I have some very major issues with Beane for restructuring Diggs. It seems as though he did not do professional due diligence. His restructure makes this impossible to navigate without totally bending over for him. We are stuck in 2023, but the 2024/25 dead and free money would have been something like $6-8M more palatable without the restructure. If we had more space, any space really, I would seriously look at what we could get for him. Especially with the high dead money. He would be cheap for a trade partner. Diggs through 2027 and a low cap number is worth Evans, a first, and probably some change.

Don't be an idiot. Of course he was abducted.

Allen specifically referenced mistakes made last season that they are working through. This might be some weird pedantic way of saying that he likes playing football in the Bills offense, so it isn't football related, but he hates doing it for Sean, or Dorsey, or Beane, so in that respect it is personal?

Well....the solution to that is.....to show up.

I think it has marginal validity. Of course when things don't work out you want them to be different so they do. But the solution to Diggs problem is to toss him the ball more when things are going bad. The finish line for that is to be in the running for the most targeted WR of all time. I struggle to separate the two. To your point about the last two season ending games, I think 7/16 is sort of what I am eluding to. We are forcing him the ball too often when it sometimes (many times) isn't the right decision. Also, Allen played phenomenal vs KC in the 13 seconds game. Gabe Davis went off. You aren't doing yourself any justice by listing such an efficient game as a reason for Diggs to be pissed. The offense wasn't the issue. Sure we could have targeted Diggs more. If only we scored 43 points that game...sheesh.

The problem is we still force feed Diggs the ball at times. We rarely make teams pay for devoting two players to Diggs. We saw something similar with Daboll as well. Some of the issue is our OC and some is on the QB. We have to do a better job of forcing teams to cover everybody.

Also the talking points wouldn't be about the "concern" over his absence. And Allen wouldn't have mentioned that they still have to work out some things from last year.

You are likely correct, but I have little patience for it. The dude was about 2 targets per game. Not catches, just two passes thrown in his general direction, from being the 10th most targeted receiver in league history. A WR that close to history whining 6-7 months later about total targets is absolutely insane to me. At scale there are no more realistic number of targets for him. It is just crazy

At first I thought maybe the illness thing was correct. But Josh talked a lot about how he can be a better advocate for Stef internally. About he is working things out with the staff because some things happened last year that could be better. The whole thing felt a lot like it was still over the 2022 season and the team is trying to make him happy still.

"There are some things that happened last year that we trying to work out" - Josh Allen. There you have it folks.

The answer is probably in the two days of meetings Diggs had with McBeane. Unsure if that is standard. Interesting that Dorsey wasn't named. Also unsure if coming in two days early is normal. Josh is very positive and talking about how much he loves Diggs.

This reads like such a Diggs tweet. Says so much but also absolutely nothing. There has been some speculation that maybe he has some health issues. I hope that isn't the case for his sake. What bad timing for a bunch of reasons.

There have been some posters who have proven to have some insight into OBD and you are the only one mentioning some health issues. Another issue I have with the Diggs/Health problems stuff is that the Bills and McD would not have let Diggs twist in the wind as "concerned" this long. They would have clarified by now that this is an excused absence and the trust Diggs and Josh to be on the same page, or at least some further clarification with something along the lines of "in the early offseason you want to get the foundation started early, so there is always some concern and urgency to start building. Josh and Stef are two of the best in the league. I am sure we will be moving the ball come September". You also mentioned that the Pegula jet will be going to a clinic. But Stef's agent said he would be in Buffalo for the duration of mini-camp.

Being correct is not a good excuse for toxic behavior. Especially when it is consistent. You can't just go do whatever you want at work and go "But I was correct"

Obviously there isn't a real grenade. Diggs isn't going to blow up the facility or his actual teammates. It is a fairly common metaphor. I am not an NFL coach, but I have coached and won a handful of National Champions, I also lived at the Olympic Training Center for a number of years. I am good friends with dozens of Olympic medalists. This just isn't behavior from somebody who can be a healthy party of a championship roster long term. Spin it out you want, but successful rosters generally don't include people who behave like Diggs for very long.