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Our LB’s have been a huge liability. I’m a fan of Williams and think he can be a player. I do not like Spector. I don’t love our pass rushers either. I think they’re just OK.

I don’t think he lost a step. At least not in some meaningful way. But Josh’s longevity was always going to be dependent on his ability to throw the ball from the pocket and be opportunistic with his legs. As he pushes 30 this will start to become drastically more important. Guys who play the game like Josh cannot survive in the league playing that way forever.

Our current starting DBs: Hamlin: 4.59 Rapp: 4.74 Benford: 4.46 Douglas: 4.59 Lewis: 4.51 Not super slow. But it seems some have slow game speed.

Crazy enough Ingram was the one catching up and his 40 time is 4.6. Crazy enough, Cam Lewis who ran a 4.5 at his pro day couldn’t catch him and was being chased down by his bigger and “slower” teammate Ja’Marcus Ingram (4.65). I’m just not a fan of Cam Lewis. Great story. Go UB Bulls! A nice utility knife to have in the tool box. But I don’t like him starting…like at all.

Also, some draws would have been nice.

She certainly is. But I wouldn’t mind Miami giving Poyer a friendly vet cut and bringing him back in the building to finish the season/his career. Even if it is a back up role.

The issue is that we have way too much turnover in the back 7. Damar Hamlin isn’t just starting he’s lining up the secondary. The same with Spector. There are zero players capable of taking on that role right now. Zero. Then on top of all that we have Cam Lewis getting abused. Allowing 72% completion, 12 yards per target, and 8 yards per completion. Without Taron, Milano, and Bernard, we need Hyde to get these kids in place live/pre-snap.

I have not been a fan of Lewis/Spector this year. I’m no football X’s and O’s guru like some here but by my eye they have been flirting with being a liability based on instincts and ability to read and react properly. They have been bailed out a few times by players around them and a couple opportunistic turnovers. I said it in another thread, Cam Lewis is 2nd in tackles. He’s our nickel corner. His job isn’t just to tackle the pass catcher. He’s allowed to defend passes too. He hasn't been good when targeted. Opposing QB’s are 18/25 (72%), 1 TD, and a 102 Passer Rating against Lewis. Again, I think he’d be a better NCB with a better LB and S Corp around him. Edit: For reference, I have also been critical of Spector. PFF has him at a 40 on the season. lol.

The article almost reads like AI. It’s weird. But to the point. I don’t have an issue with almost anything the article pointed out at LB/Edge. I am really curious WTF was going on in the secondary. I know Rapp went out but it seems so weirdly muddled there. Elam only getting 3 snaps is so strange to me as well. He had a very good camp and a great preseason. I’ve noticed when he’s come in some of our blow outs he’s certainly popped off the screen as a “not scrub” amongst the scrubs. I would be curious to move Douglas to safety and put Elam on the outside.

Totally agreed on the Houston point for both players, coaches, and the FO vision for this years team. I also think Lewis, Spector, and Hamlin are too much for this defense to absorb consistently. The other 8 guys have to play at a really high level to make those 3 effective. One misread, slip, etc and those guys get exposed.

While I don’t totally disagree, Hamlin also has the mic which means he’s calling the defense for the secondary. I assume it’s because McD doesn’t trust another safety to do it/other guys are struggling to do it. Athleticism aside I think this team is missing the football IQ on the defensive side to have somebody reliable lining them up. We have two backups QB’ing the defense. I think this is the biggest reason to bring Hyde back in sooner rather than later. (If willing)

Hes 6-2 on SNF. lol.

It is likely because the back up LB’s and S’s can’t be trusted. I think the defense was benefited from a few opportunistic plays. I’ve been worried about Spector/Lewis being exposed for a few weeks. We can absorb Spector with Bernard/Milano. Lewis is a fine back up with a better safety tandem and/or both LB’s healthy. We’d feel better about Hamlin/Rapp if everybody in front was at 100%. But as it stands now those guys all need everything to go right for them to be a consistently quality unit.

In general it’s hard to change a game plan in the NFL, but it’s much harder now than it was in past era’s. I think about McAfee’s story about having to learn to directional punt. He used to show up and kick in the facility at all hours of the night and notes that he would never be allowed to do that now. Now apply that to trying to install an entire game plan. They only have time to dial in a relatively small amount of plays, reads, and checks. It is kind of like when an F1 team gets the set up wrong. They’re just sort of locked into their mistake for an entire race/game.

That’s just yelling at clouds. - The Bills have 3.8M in cap space. - It will cost the Bills $3M to cut Bass A new kicker will likely cost the rest of that money. Plus the team will need $3-4M to navigate injuries. So cutting Bass and signing another kicker will require the Bills to either cut or restructure an additional player. The Bills could very well go down this path. But if they do I don’t think it will be until after the halfway point of the season and they have a better idea of their injury situation. They just don’t have the freedom act quickly at the moment.

Totally agreed. This offense seems to be built to be a TE, play action team with the ability to create multiple coverage mismatches. For whatever reason we absolutely refused lst night.

We have to unless he completely implodes. His cap number is quite large. Cutting him would basically eat up the rest of our space. We’d have to make another cut or restructure somebody on the roster to have room to both navigate injuries and sign another kicker. Right now Bass is about $4.4M on the roster and $7.4 off the roster. Bills have $3.8M in space. We have an out after this season and we save $1M by cutter him next year. Which is likely a lock at this point. (Somebody mentioned a post June designation in another thread a few weeks ago. I cannot think of an example of a mid season cut with a June 1 designation. Unsure if that’s allowed.)

Dude, step off the ledge. Holding a second year TE to the standard of info of the 3 best TE’s to ever play the game is insane. At the moment Kincaid is pretty good which is an excellent trajectory for a kid 4 games into in his second year. Kincaid had a pretty good game today. He wasn’t a problem even worth discussing today. Brady, the OL, Babich, the entire defense, and McD deserve all the blame for this one.

Cams job isn’t just to make the tackle. It’s also to take the play away. Something he hasn’t dont much of. He’s near the top of the list in total tackles. He gets targeted quite a bit.

I said it when he came off the bench and it was true in this game. Spector is slow to react and isn’t seeing the play well. He’s a back up LB who I think will continue to get picked on the longer he’s out there. I feel similar about Cam Lewis. He is near the top in tackles because he’s getting picked on out there. It would be nice to get Hyde back in the building.

Circumstances (SB) aside, that trick play was dumber than throwing the ball on 4th and 1.

Our OL has been getting away with quite a few flagrant holds for a few weeks now.

Im not going down that road yet. You can be critical of a play without commenting on a guys entire career. Especially this early on.

Cam Lewis is close to the top of the list for tackles because he’s picked on. I still think Ingram has been OK…ish. Spector is still a backup and too slow to react.

That flea flicker was one of the worst play calls in Bills history. Buffalo had the momentum and was moving. He got cute and risky for absolutely zero reason situationally.