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There’s nothing to squish. The context is “My colleague told me this. I reported it. Nobody ever followed up with me I asked Goodell about other DEI initiatives. Now I’ve lost my job after being told I’d be getting a new contract”. Trotter isn’t using this to throw Pegs under the bus. He’s saying the league didn’t even bother looking into this or Jerry Jones and bringing it up cost him his job. Which if true, is a big deal for any large corporation. This isn’t a hit piece on Pegula. Or at least not intentionally.

I feel like I’ve seen some things about Shaq Lawson and some of the Bills draft woes. He’s not great but outside of some short stops elsewhere he’s been a productive player for us and keeps finding playing time regardless of who we draft and bring in. Kudos to Shaq.

Thanks to @uticaclubfor the OP and I fully agree with @Success reply about expectations. I do want to add though that even at peak EJ Manuel, JP Losman, or even peak Fitz/Tyrod a 4 (almost 5 with an early whistle) turnover game is an impossible day to have fun as a football fan. Similarly to @Success I’ve tried to relax and enjoy it all this year. I’ve unplugged more this offseason leaning into other sports and the Sabres. I came into yesterday know a loss wouldn’t be the biggest deal, but I had a caveat that we needed to play real NFL football. In the “Keys to Success” I said play the sticks, move the chains, don’t turn the ball over. We did the oppositeS But yesterday was a tough one to swollow in our dumbest years, let alone one with SB aspirations and a very expensive roster.

I agree with you in general. But I will also say this. It’s year 6. He signed a 4 year rookie deal, and the team took up his 5th year option plus a big big time extension. This is his first year of his extension (aside from bonus money on the deal). The bar gets raised. Add on the fact that he has been a turnover machine a good portion of his career, and this year he has talked a lot about how he’s never been more focused and is all ball at the moment. The bar gets raised even high. Then the cherry on top is the increased expectations around the team this year with an aging roster looming. The bar goes up again. Allen is great. His expectations are high and higher than most of the league because of performances he put out there to earn it. It I’d be lying if I said he didn’t fall wildly short last night. 4 turnovers for a turnover prone QB is always going to spark embers into flames.

I just saw a tweet from Nick Wright that Allen is averaging about 2 turnovers per game from the start of last season.

It’s not trashing. It was a bad game. A very bad game with a lot of turn overs for a guy who is prone to a huge amount of turnovers. Talking about our QB averaging 2 turnovers a game for the last 365 days is a very reasonable talking point without you getting all upset about it.

That isn’t true once you calculate fumbles. https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/most-turnovers-by-a-nfl-player-from-2022-to-2023

2. Our starting 5 OL all played 100% of snaps. 40% (2/5) allowing 47% of QB pressures isn’t bonkers. Here is a stat line nobody will want to see. Allen has averaged about 2 turnovers per game since week 1 2022. https://x.com/getnickwright/status/1701425069946220651?s=20

To be clear, the accuser for Pegula is an unnamed reporter. Trotters complaint is that the league didn’t do anything to investigate what he heard from Jones and what a colleague says they heard from Pegula. Additionally It sounds like Trotter is trying to say that after filing a complaint with the league and them never responding despite multiple attempts, that his professional life then got harder.

My quick take is that those are two different things. My boss telling me not to tell the public anything about a bad thing I know about my company is different than the powers that be contacting me in due diligence. The story for the league is a reputable first hand account of something terrible being said. And the same person saying “hey look into this one too”. In a weird way, if Terry is in fact totally clear here, his involvement in this today is because of league HQ and Jerry Jones.

The way I understand it is the suit breaks down as this: - Trotter heard Jerry’s comments directly. - He also has a colleague say he heard Pegula say something similar. - Trotter reports this to the league and nothing ever comes from it. Trotters talking points don’t focus on Pegula. They are about the leagues due diligence, which comes into question because nobody every called him to get specifics about the Jones incident. So how could they have vetted Pegula. As a Bills fan I really dislike this. But as an NFL fan Pegula isn’t the story.

Kyle Shanahan. And he wouldn’t be a QB coach, he’d be the head coach. If there was a way to get it done, at just about any cost other than trading away Allen, I’d likely pay it.

Deuces Pegula. What an absolute POS. GTFO of my town. Edit: To appease some, I’ll add the obligatory “if true”. It’s a tough morning after last night. This would be quite the gut punch.

The Bills sports science team is world class. But to your point the rest of the sport is much much much worse. The issue in football is the dumb jock football mentality. I was just having a conversation from somebody who used to work with the Dutch Olympic Committee, there’s some change in race distances for LA28 and they’re already starting to test their Paris athletes to see if they’ll fit their profile. Their physiologists play a very major role (50/50) with the coaching staff in they scheduling. Football as a whole sucks at this. They rely on their S&C team for too much, which is different all together. I doubt that the Bills physiologist controls 50% of their lifting schedule, let alone practice schedule. But the Bills have taken a great first step in bringing world class individuals in house. Tom Brady set the world on fire by treating his body like dozens of other Olympic sports do and the sport continues to mock him. But there are thousands of athletes all over the world doing the same thing and they just call it a Tuesday because they’re locked in at what they do.

Burrow was terrible. But Burrow is not my QB, so when he has a bad game I just point, laugh, and move on with my life. When my QB plays like garbage I have a lot more to say. I hated the thrown out jerseys. Hated. But let’s not pretend this is some slight against Josh that other QB’s who haven’t won or been to a SB don’t experience.

I think I’ve lost confidence after this one. Sure I’ve been critical. But in my head and in my heart it’s been with the intent of “if he can cut this crap out. Or do this thing better he would be unstoppable” This was a clunker of clunkers. I watched Burrow and Mahomes this week. They aren’t my QB and they don’t play for my team. It’s different. One thing that’s triggering some worry here is after a game like this all the “well the staff is gripping to tight” or “You can’t make Josh play a game that isn’t natural to him” This is a lot of the stuff I said forever ago about JP Losman or EJ Manuel. In hindsight I was grasping at straws. To see that in full force now gives me a lot of pause. Almost as much as the game did.

I’ve been critical of Josh, but this one goes too far.

I’ve long said that I don’t think Josh sees the field really well. He is often late to throw, hits his receivers flat footed, and when he misses largely misses behind. Josh’s velocity and athleticism covers a lot of that up. We almost never see Josh Allen hit the last step of his drop and release. Never. Pair that with his penchant for wanting the big play, and this is what you get. Josh’s style of play will always make it difficult on the OL. That doesn’t mean ours is good, but he always makes it hard. He always makes everything hard.

If Josh can’t succeed under Kyle Shanahan, who seems to be the leagues best QB whisperer we are all effed.

I can be hard on Josh at times. But I agree. Even if a negative (it wasn’t. It was just Josh) it’s pretty far on the list tonight.

Id have to pull the link. I’m out of pocket and struggling to dig it up quickly. I’m paraphrasing, but he’s referring to the McAfee interview where Josh says, “Of course I watch film. But I try not to over do it. Teams play us differently than what we see on film. I prefer to trust my eyes in real time”. Again, paraphrasing. But that’s the gist.

As somebody who watches the A22 weekly, so often this is the case. Even when he threads the needle. It leaves us so vulnerable so often to boom or bust games.

Mine was easily the 3rd INT with Kincade wide open in front of Davis and in front of the sticks. Convert unseat of turning it over and everything changes.

Bernard was overall better than I thought he’d be when real bullets started flying. But my bar was very low. There was one play in the 4th (?) where he got absolutely obliterated. It happened right in front of me on the 30. It was actually hilarious.

Give the expectations this season. The “I’ve never been more focused”. Rodgers going out. This was the biggest gut punch.