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Are you effing kidding me!!!!

Closing in on 60 once you account for sacks. He might complete 10 passes tonight. Watch out!

I mean they’ve been fairy dominant. They pinned them inside the 5. Then have sacked JG 3 times this drive. They’re closing this game out. Also, people hold their own teams to a higher standard. Really happy for Goff, but nobody is watching Goff and holding up an Allen/Mahomes measuring stick. Goff got a lot of praise early in his career. Then they were close to winning a few championships and it all changed. Goff is a feel good story until the Lions get close on a consistent basis.

I guess the bright side is that 3 catches and 30 yards could happen fairly quickly

I often bet trends, the way I think a game will go, and string together a few individual and parlay prop bets. I won’t touch the spread unless I feel strongly about the outcome. I took the spread in all 4 quarters in this one. Haha.

That was the bare minimum. I lost another +1400 on something similarly easy on Thursday. 2+ receptions for James Cook. Like come on. I’d much rather miss the spread than to miss something as easy as 4 catches for Davante Adams.

Jesus. I am going to lose another 9 leg parlay on the dumbest stat line. Davonte Adams is going to miss 40 yards and 4 receptions isn’t he? How is that possible?

I hope they fire Shanahan.

I think it was against NE there was a play where it looked like he was trying to let the rusher work up and over the pocket, but Josh stepped way up into the pocket/space. It allowed the rusher to release from Dawkins without any issues and walked right into Josh. This is a great adjustment between the two.

I don't think there are any juggernauts like the last few years. The Chiefs have struggled a bit here and there, but have Mahomes so maybe they are the closest thing. But they have proven to be very beatable. The rest of the league has flaws. It looks like this season, more so than others, may come down to who gets hot when, and plays great in the run, pass, and all 3 phases. It feels like the NFL is favoring balance this year.

As of about 2 weeks ago, road teams actually had a winning record vs home teams. Unsure of how much that has shifted. But some sportsbooks have claimed that they are only giving home teams about -1.5 these days.

Oh well OK then, mister “halftime adjustment” seems to be very anti adjustment. You’re not welcome on my pretend 11 person NFL team.

Yes, I think it was. My go to, when you have a great QB, is to spread the ball around. You don't just make the defense def Mahomes and Brady have made careers at being willing to throw anybody the ball, at any time, in any situation, then if it doesn't work out holding that pass catcher responsible. The inverse is Rodgers, who is still remarkable, but has also been very open about not throwing the ball to certain players and calling out his FO. Rodgers has a ton of individual awards, Brady and Mahomes have multiple SB's. I don't believe that is a coincidence. (Worth noting that JuJu is getting a ton of hate in New England right now) One thing I noticed last night was how engaged Josh was when the defense was on the field. For years it feels like he mostly sits alone on the bench. At least that is what the TV seems to show. But last night he was with Brady and "Other Allen" a bunch, and we seemed to see him a ton talking to his WR's about what they are seeing out in coverage. Both were a very welcome change. Just a lot more energy from some of the skill positions on the sidelines. That alone makes them better going forward.

I have been pretty critical of Josh's decision making and the fact that just because he can complete some passes, doesn't mean he should. I think Dorsey overall called a pretty good game last night, but it is fair to criticize that not getting behind center on 3rd or 4th down, and trying to punch it in was just a bad concept.

I honestly thought this thread was going to be whether or not Damar should dress in Cincinnati. Shocked it was about his roster spot.

A bunch of sissies. Cut it to 11, and go full iron man!

This is exactly what I was referring to. The one thing I differ on from some others is the individual threads for some of the weekly opinions, reports, film break downs. Obviously every time Keyshawn Johnson makes it clear he didn't watch any football over the weekend, his opinion doesn't need a thread. But I do think there is a spot for Orlovsky, Simms, Warner, Cover 1 etc. who do some actual breakdowns of the game to have their own thread when it comes up. Then have them all get merged into mega thread on gameday. But that is understandably a bit of work for the mods.

$50 on ~+1400, so $700.

From a general NFL franchise perspective I am fine with moving on from McD. I think he is a good HC, but may have run his course in Buffalo. These things happen when teams are legitimately close to winning championships. The team has topped out under Sean. I don't think they are doomed under him this season and this team can still get it done if they get hot, but I am OK with upgrading. My biggest pause in replacing any combination of McBeane is Terry Pegula. He has proven to be a historically bad owner in the NHL. It scares me that his 12 year NHL playoff draught could easily convert to a 25 year NFL playoff draught. I have a lot of criticism for our roster development, draft, and player utilization. Our constant redrafting of positions drives me crazy and is a huge part of why we struggle in a bunch of areas on the field. I think this team is in trouble next year with our cap, rookie production, and upcoming UFA's. In season I am a bit harder on Allen because he is the only player who is in charge of distributing the ball to everybody else. Allen improving his game is the quickest and surest way for this team to get better immediately in season. We aren't moving on from Beane, McDermott, or Dorsey tomorrow, and even if we did it wouldn't make the team better.

One specific bright spot from last night wasn't just Davis, but it was the diversity of routes and depth that Davis ran last night. He didn't just have a good game he basically ran all over the field and caught everything thrown his way. Special shout out to Shakir who seems to have a knack for finding green space. Even after I slept on it, I am very angry with Josh and Dorsey for costing me an 11 leg parlay. All they needed to do was throw the ball to Cook twice. One more pass to Cook. ONE! Come on guys.

I think coaches should have unlimited challenges as long as they win it. Keep it at 2 challenge loses that is fine. But if the coaches throw 6 flags that all get overturned that is on the refs/the league.

I want there to be a play clock buzzer like a shot clock in basketball. It is such a weird antiquated process at the moment.

Just to clarify, I don't think Josh is lazy, I think that he could be better with some of his prep. I think there is a difference even if nuanced. Jamarcus Russel and Johnny Menzel were lazy and unfocused. That is certainly not Josh Allen.

Maybe it was the late night Hayburners yesterday, but I am a bit taken aback by how negative the board was last night. I am critical of a lot, and participate in a ton of negative threads/conversations, but the team was a lot better at a good chunk of the last few weeks criticisms. Definitely some moments I would like back, especially the goal line play calls. But we can win a few games with the way we played last night. Last night was the kind of game/team that if they can get hot, they can go on a run in January.

Maybe it was all the late night, weekday Hayburners last night, but I am a bit shocked at how negative the board is today. And I am a guy who participates in a lot of negative threads. Some things I would like back, particularly the goal line play calls. But a lot of my complaints the last few weeks were improved on last night.