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Since it is a buyers market, I wonder if anybody is interested in a 34 year old edge rusher, with zero knees, and about $24M AAV left over the next 4 seasons?

All of that is fine. But there is a piece missing. Bills are $33M over the cap as it stands right now. Adding Adams puts the Bills $50M over the cap. Now you have to spend at least some money to replace 5 starters and 20 other roster spots whose contracts expire. To do this the Bills would have to clear at least $65M or $70M in cap space, getting rid of even more starters than just the UFA I listed. None of which save them money for 2024, because they aren't on the books. If you want to have a conversation about whether or not it is worth it for 1 year, this year, sure. I think there is some validity. But if the Bills do it, they will struggle for a couple years. New Orleans and the Rams are two fairly recent examples of teams going all in, and then needing a full tear down/reset starting in 2024.

The Eagles have a lot of space next year with some big extensions still yet to come. Also, Hurts is fairly cheap against the cap until 2026. As an aside, I think Hurts is a flawed passer/decision who got a huge payday because of his supporting cast. If he doesn't get a lot better by the time the bill comes due, I think the Eagles will struggle.

Aren’t we all just bots in gods image anyways?

I agree. It’s certainly the last and only of the “all in moves” at this point.

So do we know if it’s real then?

Step 1: it’s an account. Check! Step 2: is it a fake account?

Right, but is it fake? I didn't see it mentioned earlier.

Ok Turk, we get it, you have friends. No need to rub it in.

Guys, is this a fake account?

Right, if we walk away from 4 or 5 starters on defense, plus some heavy rotational players, then cut some other players, and give all that money to Devonte Adams, yes we can be under the salary cap. But no we cannot field a competent NFL defense. Just about every NFL team could walk away from a bunch of starters and fit two high priced WR's. That has never been a problem. The problem is that it isn't a great idea.

Right, but the post I was responding two just said "Just give him Tre's money". This is going to be an interesting offseason for Buffalo.

They can't just erase the contract. They can cut him, which comes with a penalty, but ultimately a $6M savings for 2024. We would still need to find another $10-12M.

Feels like the last few seasons the Bills have been used to jack up asking price for some of these trades/FA's.

Thank you! We have a lot of pieces coming due this offseason with no cap space, and no young guys on rookie deals to replace them with. When people say "It is time for Beane to go all in", he more or less has. We don't have any edge rushers, wide receivers, safeties, or nose tackles to fill in for the coming free agency. Any major UFA/Trade will risk this team going down the Rams/Saints cap management route, which is taking those teams years to crawl out of. I would rather not and just take a mild step back for a season or two.

This was a million years ago in football terms, but I thought I remembered both offers being comparable. Or even Pittsburgh's being less? Which added to the craziness of the lore of the black and yellow shorts.

Diggs doesn't really. Not without an extension. We kicked his can about as far as we can without an extension. Right now the team is basically locked into Diggs from now until 2027 at anywhere between $22M-$27M cap dollars per year. Any restructure would just increase that number in later years. I don't think I would extend Diggs past 34 years old right now. I highly doubt that if asked to do that today that that number is a super team friendly AAV. We have no idea what he or this team will look like in 2028. Allen has some more maneuverability, but that is more or less based on the likelihood of another extension. If we see or hear of an Allen restructure an extension is likely very close behind.

That is the exact point I was originally arguing against. I don't think you can field a complete football team with that kind of cap hit for 3 players. The Bills are estimated to be about $33M over the cap next year with a host of players who play pivotal roles for us. Specifically on the defensive side of the ball. Not only is devoting ~36% of the 2024 cap funds to a QB and 2 WR a historical precedent, it would be wildly irresponsible to the rest of the team. I don't think you can sign Adams and replace any FA in a meaningful way in 2024. Food for thought, there are some real impact players for us coming due. Not to mention we only have 1 RB and 2 DE on the 2024 roster. Signing Adams would have us filling in the below needs plus being $50M over the cap. Hyde D. Jones Floyd AJE Jackson Rapp Davis (Adams fills this) https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/buffalo-bills/

Sorry, I thought you were saying we could next year. I don't think that we can. Or at least I don't think we can and still put out a competent football team.

Beane didn't pull an offer from Wallace though? Wallace literally said he made his decision because of the color shorts he was wearing. I am also not a huge Wallace fan. He is fine. I thought Dane was better down the stretch his last season. Both Benford and Jackson are better today.

For reference Mahomes/Kelce had one of the highest cap% to ever win a SB at ~20% of total cap. Next year Allen and Diggs are at ~30% on their own. Adding Adams would move them to about ~36% of the total cap. Sure, I guess it could be done? But it has never ever been done before. You could restructure Allen to get that number back down to ~30%, but that is still historically high. I don't think you can field a good football team if you have over 1/3 of total cap dollars spent on three guys. You still need people to run, block, cover, tackle, and get after the QB. The sum of all of those guys matter....a lot.

Which is also super weird, the Bears are terrible. Montez Sweat is in the last year of his contract. They gave up a high second for him? I don't get it.

Very unsure how restructuring works for players on IR? Outside of IR, restructuring Tre would only kick his cap hit down the line. So yes they could, but he likely becomes $20M against the cap in 24, 25, or 26. The Bills can actually save some money in 2024 by cutting Tre. Which is actually a heart breaker for me. I love that guy.

Here’s a crazy thought, the goalie situation for the Sabres is likely better than the QB/HC situation for the Raiders!

Starter? After tonight I wouldn’t want him as our backup. I’d rather pick up Trey Lance, Justin Fields, Daniel Jones, Matt Barkley, Zach Wilson, Mac Jones, Bailey Zappe or Mitch Trubisky as our 2nd QB.