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It wasn’t even two trainers. It was a trainer and a security guard. I had to double check this was a home game for them and not Mike Brown cutting costs in CIN.

Why isn’t Lawrence on a cart. That’s crazy.

The core has run out of tread. Time to get younger and cheaper as the bill comes due for Allen and Diggs. I hope we don't restructure any/many more contracts this offseason. Restock the shelves in 2024. We have some relief to shuffle the core around after that.

Maybe we can win this one in overtime!

Sweet. It took Deshaun Watson exposing himself to dozens and dozens and dozens of women and the first ever full guaranteed contract to have that clause. If Cleveland pulls the trigger and ever has the ability to void his deal it will be the first time it has ever happened across the league. For the 1000000th time. The league has viewed Miller as one of the good guys until last week. He has been pushed on fans everywhere as a stand up guy. While I think the guy sucks as a human, his dropped DV charge and positive steroid test is basically the cost of admission to even play in the NFL. No team would ever put that in their contract for a guy like Von, and Von would never sign it. The situation Watson was in at the time of signing is night and day to Von when he signed in Buffalo. Any voidable language due to off field behavior is exceedingly rare, and to your point, only present in the leagues most rare cases. Until the other day Von Miller was a choir boy by NFL standards. The only cap relief we will get will be from league intervention or Von Miller renegotiating some sort of retirement or injury buy out.

This kind of idea is a totally revisionist. Von has always been pushed as one of the stand up, nice guys in the league. Before this he wouldn’t have made the top 100 individuals across the NFL, and after this he likely still doesn’t make the top 10. Based on all that, saying any team would make Von Miller the first ever player to have a voidable contract based on off field behavior is a total pipe dream that only happens here and on Twitter. The only way out of the Von contract is to get some help from the league or for Miller to work on a retirement/injury settlement. That’s it.

I’ve been saying for a while the Bills have been kicking the van down the road for too long. Every year they keep doing this they set themselves up for a bigger reset year. We’re one of the oldest and most expensive teams in the league. Those two things don’t often pair well together.

The worst part of the contract is the restructure after the ACL tear. On March 13, 2023 we restructured a huge contract on an old pass rusher just after ACL surgery without seeing him practice. Without that restructure the Bills could have saved money by moving on after the season.

Rodgers renegotiating his own contract is way different. As far as I know there is no contract in league history that was every voided based on any morality or behavior clauses. Like I said early Hernandez, Ruggs, AP, Vick, all carried cap hits for their teams. My best guess is Von retires and negotiates some sort of settlement. But the idea that Von signed a contract up front that would void his entire deal based on off field behavior is a pipe dream. It’s never happened…ever.

The recording is noted in the body of most of the early articles. https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/sports/von-millers-pregnant-girlfriend-accuses-him-of-pushing-her-putting-his-hands-on-her-neck/3400461/?amp=1 She texted a local news station a day later to say this was a nothing burger. https://www.wfaa.com/amp/article/news/local/buffalo-bills-nfl-von-miller-faces-arrest-in-dallas-texas-domestic-violence-case/287-2904617b-5d0d-4252-a321-28d8f61807f0 Is there a source on this? Vick, Ruggs, Hernandez all came with cap hits. If Von’s contract gets voided it would be an NFL first.

There isn’t a whole lot of history of NFL contracts being voided or having relief based on off field behavior. People keep saying this like it’s common place and it’s not. Teams eat contracts and cap dollars all the time when players turn out to be total POS. Best bet for cap relief is for Von to retire, take a cap friendly buyout, and disappear silently.

I’ll post it again: Dak is 6-1 in his last 7 starts with 25:3 total TD to TO ratio. That’s about as good as it gets. If he goes 25:12, better than 2:1, like some are suggesting is OK, those 9 additional TO’s likely cost them a few games. More turnovers are always bad and always cost games.

It is so odd to me that this is being debated. More turn overs are always worse than less. Yes, scoring more points makes it easier to overcome if you score more points, but it doesn't change the equation that turnovers=bad and more turnovers=more bad. I actually don't love Dak, but he is 6-1 in the last 7 weeks with 23:2 TD to INT's. That is about as good as it gets. 23:6 will always be a worse result than 23:2, and like changes the Cowboys from 6-1 in those games to 5-2, 4-3, or 3-4 depending on where those additional 4 INT's come.

Don't forget the part where it was recorded and that recording was given to the police. I would be curious what league officials, Von's attorney, and agent were doing at the time the text message to the news was sent.

A few things: - The post I was responding to was charging the GF with filing a falsified police report. That will not happen. - I think in most cases where a victim recants you are correct. But there is a recording of the incident. You don't need a compelling witness if the altercation has video/audio evidence. - If charges do go away I would first be pointing the finger at an intervention from Von's team/the league. Again, because the fight was recorded and not because the witness would not cooperate.

I would not be shocked if Miller and the league pay to keep this thing quiet and the recording to somehow get buried and sealed under an infinite tag of "ongoing investigation". In exchange, Von retires in very short order (before the season ends).

He wasn't just arrested based on a police report. The woman recorded the altercation and that was a part of why an arrest warrant was issued. (In addition to bruising, bleeding and missing hair) Von's team is working diligently to make this one go away.

She recorded the altercation and gave it to the police. This is stated in most articles. It was part of the reason they issued an arrest warrant for Miller. There is no recanting. Texas is also a "No Drop" state. Meaning that the woman cannot drop the charges, only the prosecutor/DA can. The DA had a recording and an arrest warrant was issued. There is absolutely zero, none, zilch, maybe even a negative infinity chance this woman gets charged with a false police report.... The league will have to pull some strings and Von will likely have to let some serious money go to make this one go away. It is unfortunate for domestic abuse victims everywhere, but that is my expectations (unfortunately).

She recorded the interaction and gave it to the police when they showed up. There is no alibi to be had. Certainly not an excuse but I wouldn’t be shocked if he was coked up and maybe that’s why he waited to turn himself in. That’s pure speculations

Oh totally. My mother was in an abusive marriage.

Just to make sure people know as they play catch up to all this, she recorded the altercation and provided it to the police and then they issued an arrest warrant.

Actually both of these things happen.

It is up to the prosecutor. The person of influence changes but it can be dropped.

They do. It was mentioned in either that article or another I read. The league is capable of making most things go away. I am hoping Texas stands strong on this one.

She recorded a video. The police saw it, have it, and have bruising. This is most certainly because Von/the league has spoken to her.