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He went walked away from HC of the Bills to become the OL coach of the Jags, who at the time were terrible. Had an opportunity as interim, to which they kept him and he had 1 "good" season, where he finished 10-6 carried by the defense. Marrone ultimately finished his time in Jacksonville with a .348 record. Had he been with a franchise with a real owner he would have lost his job much sooner than he did. Afterwards he has strictly been an OL coach. Marrone 100% flamed out of the NFL HC circle.
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Stadium Construction Discussion (No PSL/Seat selection posts)
Mango replied to JÂy RÛßeÒ's topic in The Stadium Wall
It has been mentioned on SabreSpace that Pegula is concerned about the increased costs of the stadium, and saving money for it is part of why he does not want to move on from Granato. Meatballs makes just under $2M per year and will have 2 years left on his contract. That is like making $100k per year and refusing to change your brake pads on your car to save money. -
I thought for sure they’d take the 5 yards and give them some space on the punt.
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I totally agree. The NFL prints money. Nobody sells an NFL team unless they’re forced. I’m hating on Terry because he needs to be better not because he needs to sell the Bills. I tend to think part of the reason McD is safe is that Terry knows trying to replace and improve would be difficult (for him). But it seems like the bill seems to be coming due shortly. I’ve been critical of some things with Beane, but I have more faith in him to select a coach. I think he likely stays even though they were originally a package deal. Beane could find himself being a lifer like Ozzie Newsome in Baltimore.
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I think a broken clock is right twice a day and I do not, under any circumstances, trust Terry Pegula to turn over McBeane with success. The time will come that he has to. And that time might be now. It’s absolutely terrifying. Regarding the Sabres, I don’t think they’re going anywhere. The day Terry bought the team they were the 4th most winning franchise in league history by point percentage. We averaged 99.9% attendance/capacity for home games. Buffalo’s TV market is regularly top 5 for the Stanley cup. Often beating 1 if not both teams in the Stanley Cup Finals. Buffalo is a quality hockey market. Since purchasing the team in 2011, the Sabres are dead last in both win and point percentage, have the lowest attendance/ capacity in league (71%), and the longest playoff drought in the history of the game (12 years). If I had to guess, due revenue sharing, the NHL hates Terry. Buffalo is a quality hockey town. The league should want to keep a team here. Terry Pegula is amongst the worst sports owners in the history of American professional sports. And I don’t say that lightly nor with any ounce of hyperbole. There needs to be space to have a constructive conversation about how bad ownership is without the threat of leaving. Full stop.
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Similar to Araiza, similar to Von, similar to this. Every org knows everything. There’s reports of NFL teams have plants in college towns during the year to get the scoop on draft picks. The league and every team in the league individually employ/contract former federal agents to snuff out these off field issues quietly. It’s a business of “what can I get away with”. It’s not shocking. It is what it is. But I would be shocked if this was new for the org. Having to deal with it in public is why McD looks scared.
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There is some fairness to the relocation aspect of the Bills. But I am also not sure it’s a forever get out of jail free card. Also he is the worst owner in NHL history. So it’s difficult to say “Yay Terry. King of the sports” because the Bills exist when just down route 5 he’s absolutely ruined the NHL team. EDIT: I think Pegula is accutely aware of this. And part of the reason McD has been listed as safe unless the wheels fall off is because he could run out of goodwill in this town.
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Also not one of my normal paywall beaters worked on his site. Sort of shocking. EDIT: I should note that I do pay for some news and sports subscriptions. I’ve never heard or even considered Dunne’s. If I feel it provides value ai have no issues subscribing. But I’m not paying $8 for 1 article out of the gate.
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Beane Presser 12.6.23 - interesting comments on Von
Mango replied to Rigotz's topic in The Stadium Wall
I think there is a little over complicating of why this will likely go away. The answer is that Von Miller is an NFL Super Star. -
When Pegula bought the team Buffalo averaged 99.9% attendance capacity. We are always among the top 5 TV markets in the country for the Stanley Cup, often beating out cities who are actually playing in it. I like to think that the NHL finds Buffalo an advantageous city to have a hockey team and don't want them to move. That's my take, but because of that it is almost certainly wrong.
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I agree he saved the Bills from relocation. I will forever be appreciative. But it doesn't mean he has been a good hockey owner either. It is a bit unfair to chalk up the frustration with Terry over the Sabres and possibly Bills disfunction to "no good deed goes unpunished". My tune would be much different if the Sabres were consistently mediocre.
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At the time of purchase the Sabres had the 4th highest all time point percentage in the league. They are by far the winningest franchise to never win a cup. Buffalo fans like to say their lives are always miserable, but over 40+ years the Sabres were amongst the most winningest franchises ever. The Sabres are having the worst 12 year stretch in the history of professional hockey in the United States. They have now plummeted 8 spots with a .445 point percentage since he bought the team. Rigas going to jail for fraud means he sucks as a human. But he also owned this team during the 99 cup run. There is 0.0000% chance that Rigas is lesser hockey owner.
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It’s Chiefs week - and the season is on the line
Mango replied to Einstein's topic in The Stadium Wall
I’ve been critical of Stef at times, but he had an awesome presser today. He’s really stepped up in a way I really like. -
Beane Presser 12.6.23 - interesting comments on Von
Mango replied to Rigotz's topic in The Stadium Wall
Not a lawyer, so let me start there. But I believe he should have been if he posted bail. And via my own access to the internet it seems like that could even be a violation of the constitution if he wasn't. I do believe that the reason this is muddled is due to league/buffalo bills involvement in trying to slow/stop the process via request. Not -
Beane Presser 12.6.23 - interesting comments on Von
Mango replied to Rigotz's topic in The Stadium Wall
One of two things that are happening right now: 1. Working with local officials to either keep the case open. Open investigations are not subject to FOIA. 2. Create a grey area where charges may or may not be officially filed. I believe both of these things were noted in the presser. Both would give Dallas enough teeth to decline any FOIA request (Texas is PIA). -
Greenberg - A Jets Fan - Pushing Back Against The Allen Hate
Mango replied to H2o's topic in The Stadium Wall
I think Greeny is right. Allen played great vs Philly. A lot of things are true at the same time. Allen is really really really good, he gets held to a wild standard, and sometimes he needs to be better. Some games have too many turnovers and poor decisions. I think part of the problem is that this team lives and dies by Allen's game. Some of that is on the FO and staff. But Allen also brings some of that on himself with his style of play. I don't mind the reactive stuff like "You can't throw the ball there at that point in the game". I don't like the proactive stuff like "how many turnovers is this jabroni going to have this week". Short story long. I am critical of Allen at times and he has played phenomenal at times. Anybody piling on the Philly game is out of their gourd. -
Beane Presser 12.6.23 - interesting comments on Von
Mango replied to Rigotz's topic in The Stadium Wall
Are you an attorney by chance? I have posited a few times that I think a lot of the grey area about charges or lack there of is the league/Bills working to try and bury the body cam and recordings submitted to police during the incident. -
Beane Presser 12.6.23 - interesting comments on Von
Mango replied to Rigotz's topic in The Stadium Wall
I believe Von Miller needing to post bail is the kicker here. Let me start by saying I am not an attorney, but I do not believe you can be held for bail without a charge. On the other end of the spectrum, you wouldn't be held on bail if you were brought in for questioning. -
I think this is true for Pegula Sports in general. They like to have a lot of control of the local sports media. It has been mentioned by people reporting on both sports across a few different outlets. That said, I think both Pegula and McBeane are lucky to be in Buffalo. Imagine trying to have that much control over Boston or NYC, or Philly. They wouldn't be able to hack it.
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The Sabres pitchforks are about as sharp as ever at the moment. For people who have been following the Sabres closely through the Pegula nightmare, this season was supposed to be the turning point. And that turning point brought old fans back in with real NHL expectations. The team is falling flat, and people on every hockey forum I have been on have never been more adamant that Terry is the number one problem. Gone are the days of "well a new coach, a shiny draft pick, a good FA, maybe a new GM". The fanbase is locked in on incompetent's ownership. My point is that I think Terry is on thin ice in this town. He has a lot of goodwill because of the last 6 years with the Bills. But as this team struggles and the Sabres org becomes more inept by the day, if Pegula botches this thing with the Bills, this town won't hesitate to light their torches for the absolute, hands down, worst owner in NHL history. Edit: I think Terry is acutely aware of this, and has some decision paralysis because of it.
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Von Miller faces arrest in domestic violence case in Dallas
Mango replied to ArdmoreRyno's topic in The Stadium Wall
Dallas police have body cams and are required to turn them on for any call they are answering. In addition to the recording submitted to police, I will be very curious if they ever get released. Once this case is closed they should be fully subject to FOIA. As somebody who has done some work on local committees through the state I am fairly familiar FOIA. Beane made a comment that pinged my ears. Something along the lines of "I think this one is going to be left open for a little bit". I will be very interested to see if either recordings ever see the light of day. I doubt they will, and burying them is likely why there is so much grey area around "was Von charged?". If they do not, I certainly have a lot more questions about what happened that night. -
Who is calling for a QB’s head? Even among the Allen critics I can only think of one poster who wants to move on. The rest just want his floor to be considerably higher in some games.
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Beane Presser 12.6.23 - interesting comments on Von
Mango replied to Rigotz's topic in The Stadium Wall
Not to split hairs but I believe Beane said something along the lines of “we have people investigating this but for the most part we rely on the league”. While he did said they aren’t investigators he also said they have investigators. (Paraphrasing)